In article <a0scc098fca8682asedb55sncnbnq9cbqs@4ax.com>, bmuse1
@no.spam.comcast.net says...
> My perceptions of the UK were turned upside down when I visited there.
> They aren't from my armchair here in the states, they were formulated
> through dinner conversations with more than 40-50 people. Their
> opinions and attitudes varied of course, but they usually felt like
> the gas taxes were the right thing to do even if it created a hardship
> for them or at least guided their lifestyle where fuel was concerned..
>

In cities people use the the transit systems because traffic is so bad,
so the car only gets used at weekends for fun.

out in the smaller towns were people have to use their cars to get into
the cities but the out of centres transit systems are so bad it can cost
as much as a car, and take 3 times as long, they need their cars every
day, and they are the guys who don't like the fuel charges. also people
in shipping/trucking/farming don't like it either, because it cuts into
how their business works, so to run their truck, or cut their corn they
need to figure in the fuel increase. If they are on a long term fixed
contract they can't up the per tonne or per delivery price, and if they
don't take the long term contract, they lose the big supermarket
contracts. so eventually, they either sack staff and downsize, or go
bust.

Very few people are happy paying 3/4 of the cost at the pumps direct to
the government.
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In article <rircc0hqnc4l8bimjpjq27t7fqh2v06bcl@4ax.com>, bmuse1
@no.spam.comcast.net says...
> Let the
> market decide if I really need a suburban V8 or not.
>

see that is where things are different, for an ordinary man, not an
executive or a director, 2 litres is biggish, 3 litres is large and
suitable for carrying the whole family. young drivers and and women tend
to drive in cars of 1-1.5 litres because they are cheap to run and
cheaper to insure.

I've seen some of the big sport trucks and SUV's over your side, and we
couldn't actually fit them down our narrow roads. We build cars to fit
the roads (which are in terrible condition as it happens), so they end
up smaller, so need smaller engines to get the most of fuel economy.

Also we do much shorter journeys. 200 miles is considered a long run
here even if you do it everyday. I imagine in some parts of the states,
that is just a bit further than "popping to the local store".
--
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http://www.bouncing-czechs.com

 

<BigJohnson@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:40C65322.ECD5F6D6@mailcity.com...
> You didn't think your free medical care was actually
> FREE did you?

Ain't nothing FREE in this country!

Even though you did include a smiler, here's a letter that I received
recently:

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May 26, 2004

We are writing regarding your eligibility for premium assistance
under the Medical Services Plan (MSP).

Eligibility for premium assistance is based on the benificiary's net
income for the previous year (combined, if married or living in a
marriage-like relationship) less MSP deductions for age, family
size and disability. If the adjusted net income is $24,000 or less,
a reduction or waiver of premiums may be available.

Each year we verify incomes with the Canada Revenue Agency
(CRA) to ensure that beneficiaries are receiving the level of as-
sistance for which they are eligible. When you applied for prem-
ium assistance you authorized CRA to release information re-
quired to establish your eligibility for assistance.

We have recently confirmed your 2003 net income with CRA.
That amount (combined with the net income of your spouse, if
applicable) less MSP deductions, results in an adjusted net
income over $24,000. Based on this information you are not
eligible for premium assistance; therefore, we have increased
your premium to the full rate effective July 01, 2004. Please
refer to the Schedule of Premium Rates printed on the back
of this letter.

Your next bill will reflect your new monthly premium.

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But we are getting a bit off-topic...

-'dreas

>
>
> mike hunt
>
>
>
> dreas wrote:
> >
> >
> > > >BigJohnson@mailcity.com wrote:
> > > >> Gas is down to $1,899.
> > > >
> > > >You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
>
> > 87 octane is $98.5 a litre in BC. That's nearly four
> > dollars a gallon, or about $3 US a gallon. You still have > it cheap...
> >
> > -'dreas

 

Now now Mike my tank is 28 gallons I normally run it to E 28 x .40= $11.20
now I can go buy a CD or something else that will last alot longer than
burning fuel just by driving down the street.

"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
news:10cct5me9b4b472@news.supernews.com...
> Corey Scheich wrote:
>
> > $1.74-$2.15 in the Twin Cities. Quite the range I would hate to be the
sap
> > who paid 2.15 and got ripped for $0.40/gal
>
> Yeah, gee, a whole whopping $6 or so on a full tank. That guy must be
> *so embarrassed*.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
>

 

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:03:16 -0500, "Corey Scheich"
<cscheich@garlockequip.com>, wrote:

>Now now Mike my tank is 28 gallons I normally run it to E 28 x .40= $11.20
>now I can go buy a CD or something else that will last alot longer than
>burning fuel just by driving down the street.

Yet again you get life at half price. A CD will cost you $29.00 in the UK

Pete
--
<iowna156@rustclubalfa.com>
156 2.0 TS (2001) - Proteo Rosso (his)
147 2.0 TS (2002) - Gem Green (her's)

 

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 09:08:24 +0100, "Hairy One Kenobi"
<abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>"Bob Muse" <bmuse1@no.spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:a0scc098fca8682asedb55sncnbnq9cbqs@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:49:20 +0100, Pete<iowna156@alfa.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:19:33 +0100, Tom Boltwood <tom@boltwood.nospam>,
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>I can't believe you meant England in the UK
>> >Ah but this an American's perception of what Brits think. <LMAO>
>> >
>> >As with most of these perceived views of life outside
>> >the actual USA, the reality is rather different.
>> >
>> >I would hate to post anything that smacked of politics,
>> >but fuel taxation is politics, and so is the American perception of the
>> >UK. Just because President B Liar and Prime Minister Bush are
>> >interchangeable doesn't mean US fantasy swops with Real Life . <LOL>
>
>> My perceptions of the UK were turned upside down when I visited there.
>> They aren't from my armchair here in the states, they were formulated
>> through dinner conversations with more than 40-50 people. Their
>> opinions and attitudes varied of course, but they usually felt like
>> the gas taxes were the right thing to do even if it created a hardship
>> for them or at least guided their lifestyle where fuel was concerned..
>
>Hmm. Where did you visit? An anti-car convention? ;o)
>
>(More likely, somewhere like a leafy suburb of London, where a car is too
>expensive to run when compared to plentiful public transport)
>
>I must confess that I only know of one person who was happy with fuel prices
>over here.
>
>Finnish, and a fanatical anti-car cyclist, he found himself in the situation
>of needing a license for his job, passed the test, and promptly moved to
>Spain. Complaining about "rip-off Britain" as he packed..
>
>Consider yourself trumped )
The people I interacted with the most were in Cleveland up on the
North Sea Coast. Not leafy and certainly different than the people
around London.

 

uh- driving?

"Pete" <iowna156@alfa.com> wrote in message
news:vggbc01h5ni64btsvhv0c7g5djr4dqje9q@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:26:41 GMT, "dreas" <dreas@shaw.ca>, wrote:
>
> >87 octane is $98.5 a litre in BC
> Please excuse my ignorance but What do you use 87 octane for?
>
> Pete
> --
> <iowna156@rustclubalfa.com>
> 156 2.0 TS (2001) - Proteo Rosso (his)
> 147 2.0 TS (2002) - Gem Green (her's)

 

not our fault you're willing to pay that kinda money for the the
"music" industry puts out..




"Pete" <iowna156@alfa.com> wrote in message
news:gc1fc058tb678jb4f4ma2mc1tv2ersdrfu@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 11:03:16 -0500, "Corey Scheich"
> <cscheich@garlockequip.com>, wrote:
>
> >Now now Mike my tank is 28 gallons I normally run it to E 28 x .40=
$11.20
> >now I can go buy a CD or something else that will last alot longer than
> >burning fuel just by driving down the street.
>
> Yet again you get life at half price. A CD will cost you $29.00 in the UK
>
> Pete
> --
> <iowna156@rustclubalfa.com>
> 156 2.0 TS (2001) - Proteo Rosso (his)
> 147 2.0 TS (2002) - Gem Green (her's)

 

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:19:13 GMT, "burntkat IS AT sc.rr.com"
<burntkathatesspam@sc.rr.com>, wrote:

>not our fault you're willing to pay that kinda money for the the
>"music" industry puts out..

Which is exactly why sales have dropped by enormous amounts.
The industry cries "piracy downloading is killing them" but in reality
they have priced themselves out of business in the UK.
Especially when the rest of the EU pays half the price.
It is the same with movies. Everything is marked up for the UK
market and then Taxed Up too.

Pete
--
<iowna156@rustclubalfa.com>
156 2.0 TS (2001) - Proteo Rosso (his)
147 2.0 TS (2002) - Gem Green (her's)

 

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 22:19:13 GMT, "burntkat IS AT sc.rr.com"
<burntkathatesspam@sc.rr.com>, wrote:

>uh- driving?
>
The actual answer was given earlier <G>

>On 8 Jun 2004 22:05:08 GMT, Marshall Banana <dan@angband.org>, wrote:
>
>>
>>More to the point, "Octane" in N. America is not the same as "Octane" in
>>the UK. Here in the states, the octane number posted on the pump is the
>>average of the Motor Octane Number as determined by a variable-compression
>>test engine, and the Research Octane Number as determined by chemical
>>analysis. If you look at the fine print on the octane sticker on a US
>>pump, you'll see the nomenclature "(R+M)/2" In the UK, pumps just list
>>the Research Octane Number. So basically, gas that is sold as 91 Octane
>>in the UK is the same as gas that is sold as 87 Octane in the US.
>>
SNIP
>>
>>Dan

Pete
--
<iowna156@rustclubalfa.com>
156 2.0 TS (2001) - Proteo Rosso (his)
147 2.0 TS (2002) - Gem Green (her's)