Fuel prices aren't dropping
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$1.74-$2.15 in the Twin Cities. Quite the range I would hate to be the sap
who paid 2.15 and got ripped for $0.40/gal
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:42:31 GMT, Mike <pactrail@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >BigJohnson@mailcity.com wrote:
> >> Gas is down to $1,899.
> >
> >You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
>
> 93 octane is still above $2.29 in New England...
who paid 2.15 and got ripped for $0.40/gal
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:42:31 GMT, Mike <pactrail@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >BigJohnson@mailcity.com wrote:
> >> Gas is down to $1,899.
> >
> >You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
>
> 93 octane is still above $2.29 in New England...
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> From: Bob Muse <bmuse1@no.spam.comcast.net>
> Reply-To: bmuse1@no.spam.comcast.net
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> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 08:27:57 -0400
> Subject: Re: Fuel prices are dropping
>
> I visited England (at least as liberal as California) about 3 years
> ago and was astonished to find that the "subjects" there felt noble
> about paying about $4.50 a gallon in fuel because they felt the high
> prices encouraged conservation. I got blank stares of disbelief when
> I asked them if they felt raped by the government due to the $3 per
> gallon tax they were assessed.
I can't believe you meant England in the UK, we're not happy about it at
all, believe me. I think we're prepared to pay more in general terms because
it does encourage us to drive less wasteful cars and Europe in general seems
to be more resource conscious than the states. The taxes are *supposed* to
go towards better things, let's face it, a welfare state is not cheap to
run, but the current prices are ludicrous and the tax revenue seems to be
being wasted.
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:19:33 +0100, Tom Boltwood <tom@boltwood.nospam>,
wrote:
>I can't believe you meant England in the UK
Ah but this an American's perception of what Brits think. <LMAO>
As with most of these perceived views of life outside
the actual USA, the reality is rather different.
I would hate to post anything that smacked of politics,
but fuel taxation is politics, and so is the American perception of the
UK. Just because President B Liar and Prime Minister Bush are
interchangeable doesn't mean US fantasy swops with Real Life . <LOL>
Pete
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wrote:
>I can't believe you meant England in the UK
Ah but this an American's perception of what Brits think. <LMAO>
As with most of these perceived views of life outside
the actual USA, the reality is rather different.
I would hate to post anything that smacked of politics,
but fuel taxation is politics, and so is the American perception of the
UK. Just because President B Liar and Prime Minister Bush are
interchangeable doesn't mean US fantasy swops with Real Life . <LOL>
Pete
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Pete wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:26:41 GMT, "dreas" <dreas@shaw.ca>, wrote:
>
>
>>87 octane is $98.5 a litre in BC
>
> Please excuse my ignorance but What do you use 87 octane for?
Why not? Most North American cars are designed to run on 87.
--
Mike Smith
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:26:41 GMT, "dreas" <dreas@shaw.ca>, wrote:
>
>
>>87 octane is $98.5 a litre in BC
>
> Please excuse my ignorance but What do you use 87 octane for?
Why not? Most North American cars are designed to run on 87.
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:28:04 -0400, Mike Smith
<mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org>, wrote:
>Most North American cars are designed to run on 87.
>
>--
>Mike Smith
Thanks Mike. Never seen one, so didn't know.
Pete
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<mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org>, wrote:
>Most North American cars are designed to run on 87.
>
>--
>Mike Smith
Thanks Mike. Never seen one, so didn't know.
Pete
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In article <rqbbc05msusovtkpml9r7o6lu4tr1tc5p4@4ax.com>,
Bob Muse <bmuse1@no.spam.comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 08:12:27 GMT, George Graves
> <gmgravesnos@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <rI9xc.6271$uX2.2706@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > Mike <pactrail@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
> >
> >In the SF Bay Area it's over $2.50/gal for REGULAR. It will be at $3.00
> >before the summer peaks.
> I think the Bay area needs to have their own special fuel blended just
> for them, since they have different weather than the rest of the west
> coast. The left has had control in California so long that it would
> take 10-20 years to fix the messes they have created, if you could
> even convince the people that there is a problem.
Couldn't agree with you more, there Bob. You have hit the nail on the
head about the "Left-Coast."
> I visited England (at least as liberal as California) about 3 years
> ago and was astonished to find that the "subjects" there felt noble
> about paying about $4.50 a gallon in fuel because they felt the high
> prices encouraged conservation. I got blank stares of disbelief when
> I asked them if they felt raped by the government due to the $3 per
> gallon tax they were assessed.
Yep.
BTW, I know a Bob Muse. He lives in Silicon Valley and is (or at least
used to be) politically conservative. Are you he?
--
George Graves
------------------
"This election is shaping up great. Our choices
are a guy who has a lot of second thoughts, or
a guy who has never had a first thought."
-- Jay Leno
Bob Muse <bmuse1@no.spam.comcast.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 08:12:27 GMT, George Graves
> <gmgravesnos@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> >In article <rI9xc.6271$uX2.2706@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>,
> > Mike <pactrail@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >> You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
> >
> >In the SF Bay Area it's over $2.50/gal for REGULAR. It will be at $3.00
> >before the summer peaks.
> I think the Bay area needs to have their own special fuel blended just
> for them, since they have different weather than the rest of the west
> coast. The left has had control in California so long that it would
> take 10-20 years to fix the messes they have created, if you could
> even convince the people that there is a problem.
Couldn't agree with you more, there Bob. You have hit the nail on the
head about the "Left-Coast."
> I visited England (at least as liberal as California) about 3 years
> ago and was astonished to find that the "subjects" there felt noble
> about paying about $4.50 a gallon in fuel because they felt the high
> prices encouraged conservation. I got blank stares of disbelief when
> I asked them if they felt raped by the government due to the $3 per
> gallon tax they were assessed.
Yep.
BTW, I know a Bob Muse. He lives in Silicon Valley and is (or at least
used to be) politically conservative. Are you he?
--
George Graves
------------------
"This election is shaping up great. Our choices
are a guy who has a lot of second thoughts, or
a guy who has never had a first thought."
-- Jay Leno
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In alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks Pete <iowna156@alfa.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:28:04 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org>, wrote:
>>Most North American cars are designed to run on 87.
>>
>>--
>>Mike Smith
> Thanks Mike. Never seen one, so didn't know.
More to the point, "Octane" in N. America is not the same as "Octane" in
the UK. Here in the states, the octane number posted on the pump is the
average of the Motor Octane Number as determined by a variable-compression
test engine, and the Research Octane Number as determined by chemical
analysis. If you look at the fine print on the octane sticker on a US
pump, you'll see the nomenclature "(R+M)/2" In the UK, pumps just list
the Research Octane Number. So basically, gas that is sold as 91 Octane
in the UK is the same as gas that is sold as 87 Octane in the US. Two
countries divided by a common language, eh? Anyone want to explain why it
would be very peculiar for a lady to keep her wallet in a fanny pack in
the UK?
Dan
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far than muscatel wine! I must have coffee...
-- J. S. Bach
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:28:04 -0400, Mike Smith
> <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org>, wrote:
>>Most North American cars are designed to run on 87.
>>
>>--
>>Mike Smith
> Thanks Mike. Never seen one, so didn't know.
More to the point, "Octane" in N. America is not the same as "Octane" in
the UK. Here in the states, the octane number posted on the pump is the
average of the Motor Octane Number as determined by a variable-compression
test engine, and the Research Octane Number as determined by chemical
analysis. If you look at the fine print on the octane sticker on a US
pump, you'll see the nomenclature "(R+M)/2" In the UK, pumps just list
the Research Octane Number. So basically, gas that is sold as 91 Octane
in the UK is the same as gas that is sold as 87 Octane in the US. Two
countries divided by a common language, eh? Anyone want to explain why it
would be very peculiar for a lady to keep her wallet in a fanny pack in
the UK?
Dan
--
Ah! How sweet coffee tastes! Lovelier than a thousand kisses, sweeter
far than muscatel wine! I must have coffee...
-- J. S. Bach
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You didn't think their free medical care was actually
FREE did you?
mike hunt
Bob Muse wrote:
>
>
>
> I visited England (at least as liberal as California) about 3 years
> ago and was astonished to find that the "subjects" there felt noble
> about paying about $4.50 a gallon in fuel because they felt the high
> prices encouraged conservation. I got blank stares of disbelief when
> I asked them if they felt raped by the government due to the $3 per
> gallon tax they were assessed.
FREE did you?
mike hunt
Bob Muse wrote:
>
>
>
> I visited England (at least as liberal as California) about 3 years
> ago and was astonished to find that the "subjects" there felt noble
> about paying about $4.50 a gallon in fuel because they felt the high
> prices encouraged conservation. I got blank stares of disbelief when
> I asked them if they felt raped by the government due to the $3 per
> gallon tax they were assessed.
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Most car sold today are designed ot run on 87 octane,
at least domestic brands, including high powered cars
like the Mustang GT.
mike hunt
daytripper wrote:
>
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:42:31 GMT, Mike <pactrail@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >BigJohnson@mailcity.com wrote:
> >> Gas is down to $1,899.
> >
> >You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
>
> 93 octane is still above $2.29 in New England...
at least domestic brands, including high powered cars
like the Mustang GT.
mike hunt
daytripper wrote:
>
> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:42:31 GMT, Mike <pactrail@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >BigJohnson@mailcity.com wrote:
> >> Gas is down to $1,899.
> >
> >You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
>
> 93 octane is still above $2.29 in New England...
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You didn't think your free medical care was actually
FREE did you?
mike hunt
dreas wrote:
>
>
> > >BigJohnson@mailcity.com wrote:
> > >> Gas is down to $1,899.
> > >
> > >You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
> 87 octane is $98.5 a litre in BC. That's nearly four
> dollars a gallon, or about $3 US a gallon. You still have > it cheap...
>
> -'dreas
FREE did you?
mike hunt
dreas wrote:
>
>
> > >BigJohnson@mailcity.com wrote:
> > >> Gas is down to $1,899.
> > >
> > >You don't live on the west coast then, its still over $2.15 a gal.
> 87 octane is $98.5 a litre in BC. That's nearly four
> dollars a gallon, or about $3 US a gallon. You still have > it cheap...
>
> -'dreas


