Fuel prices aren't dropping
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Wolfgang Pawlinetz wrote:
>
> Over here, we're used to it and we know that part of the money we
> spend on fuel is moved over to ecological projects and supports our
> social system (not directly, but the money the government saves
> because the car owners pay directly for roads and ecological repairs
> can be spent on e.g. health care).
>
> Personally I don't mind paying more for fuel in exchange for a
> lifetime ensured health care and retirement money.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. In fact, that's what I
was obliquely implying to "Hairy One Kenobi" - if fuel taxes are high in
his country, it's because that's the way (the majority of) his
countrymen want it.
--
Mike Smith
>
> Over here, we're used to it and we know that part of the money we
> spend on fuel is moved over to ecological projects and supports our
> social system (not directly, but the money the government saves
> because the car owners pay directly for roads and ecological repairs
> can be spent on e.g. health care).
>
> Personally I don't mind paying more for fuel in exchange for a
> lifetime ensured health care and retirement money.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. In fact, that's what I
was obliquely implying to "Hairy One Kenobi" - if fuel taxes are high in
his country, it's because that's the way (the majority of) his
countrymen want it.
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Mike Smith
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In message <2imrgkFpcppqU1@uni-berlin.de>
Marshall Banana <dan@angband.org> wrote:
> So basically, gas that is sold as 91 Octane in the UK is the same as
> gas that is sold as 87 Octane in the US.
I wouldn't know where to obtain 91 RON petrol in the UK. The lowest
that is commonly available is 95 RON.
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Marshall Banana <dan@angband.org> wrote:
> So basically, gas that is sold as 91 Octane in the UK is the same as
> gas that is sold as 87 Octane in the US.
I wouldn't know where to obtain 91 RON petrol in the UK. The lowest
that is commonly available is 95 RON.
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Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
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"Mike Smith" <mike_UNDERSCORE_smith@acm.DOT.org> wrote in message
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> Wolfgang Pawlinetz wrote:
> >
> > Over here, we're used to it and we know that part of the money we
> > spend on fuel is moved over to ecological projects and supports our
> > social system (not directly, but the money the government saves
> > because the car owners pay directly for roads and ecological repairs
> > can be spent on e.g. health care).
> >
> > Personally I don't mind paying more for fuel in exchange for a
> > lifetime ensured health care and retirement money.
>
> That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. In fact, that's what I
> was obliquely implying to "Hairy One Kenobi" - if fuel taxes are high in
> his country, it's because that's the way (the majority of) his
> countrymen want it.
...or that we aren't offered an alternative. Short of bringing the entire
country to a halt, as happened in 2000.
H1K
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> Wolfgang Pawlinetz wrote:
> >
> > Over here, we're used to it and we know that part of the money we
> > spend on fuel is moved over to ecological projects and supports our
> > social system (not directly, but the money the government saves
> > because the car owners pay directly for roads and ecological repairs
> > can be spent on e.g. health care).
> >
> > Personally I don't mind paying more for fuel in exchange for a
> > lifetime ensured health care and retirement money.
>
> That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. In fact, that's what I
> was obliquely implying to "Hairy One Kenobi" - if fuel taxes are high in
> his country, it's because that's the way (the majority of) his
> countrymen want it.
...or that we aren't offered an alternative. Short of bringing the entire
country to a halt, as happened in 2000.
H1K
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"Bob Muse" <bmuse1@no.spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:49:20 +0100, Pete<iowna156@alfa.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:19:33 +0100, Tom Boltwood <tom@boltwood.nospam>,
> >wrote:
> >
> >>I can't believe you meant England in the UK
> >Ah but this an American's perception of what Brits think. <LMAO>
> >
> >As with most of these perceived views of life outside
> >the actual USA, the reality is rather different.
> >
> >I would hate to post anything that smacked of politics,
> >but fuel taxation is politics, and so is the American perception of the
> >UK. Just because President B Liar and Prime Minister Bush are
> >interchangeable doesn't mean US fantasy swops with Real Life . <LOL>
> My perceptions of the UK were turned upside down when I visited there.
> They aren't from my armchair here in the states, they were formulated
> through dinner conversations with more than 40-50 people. Their
> opinions and attitudes varied of course, but they usually felt like
> the gas taxes were the right thing to do even if it created a hardship
> for them or at least guided their lifestyle where fuel was concerned..
Hmm. Where did you visit? An anti-car convention? ;o)
(More likely, somewhere like a leafy suburb of London, where a car is too
expensive to run when compared to plentiful public transport)
I must confess that I only know of one person who was happy with fuel prices
over here.
Finnish, and a fanatical anti-car cyclist, he found himself in the situation
of needing a license for his job, passed the test, and promptly moved to
Spain. Complaining about "rip-off Britain" as he packed..
Consider yourself trumped
)
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Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
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> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:49:20 +0100, Pete<iowna156@alfa.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 17:19:33 +0100, Tom Boltwood <tom@boltwood.nospam>,
> >wrote:
> >
> >>I can't believe you meant England in the UK
> >Ah but this an American's perception of what Brits think. <LMAO>
> >
> >As with most of these perceived views of life outside
> >the actual USA, the reality is rather different.
> >
> >I would hate to post anything that smacked of politics,
> >but fuel taxation is politics, and so is the American perception of the
> >UK. Just because President B Liar and Prime Minister Bush are
> >interchangeable doesn't mean US fantasy swops with Real Life . <LOL>
> My perceptions of the UK were turned upside down when I visited there.
> They aren't from my armchair here in the states, they were formulated
> through dinner conversations with more than 40-50 people. Their
> opinions and attitudes varied of course, but they usually felt like
> the gas taxes were the right thing to do even if it created a hardship
> for them or at least guided their lifestyle where fuel was concerned..
Hmm. Where did you visit? An anti-car convention? ;o)
(More likely, somewhere like a leafy suburb of London, where a car is too
expensive to run when compared to plentiful public transport)
I must confess that I only know of one person who was happy with fuel prices
over here.
Finnish, and a fanatical anti-car cyclist, he found himself in the situation
of needing a license for his job, passed the test, and promptly moved to
Spain. Complaining about "rip-off Britain" as he packed..
Consider yourself trumped
)--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
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On 8 Jun 2004 22:05:08 GMT, Marshall Banana <dan@angband.org> wrote:
>Anyone want to explain why it
>would be very peculiar for a lady to keep her wallet in a fanny pack in
>the UK?
That's easy. In the UK, ladies have purses, not wallets
>Anyone want to explain why it
>would be very peculiar for a lady to keep her wallet in a fanny pack in
>the UK?
That's easy. In the UK, ladies have purses, not wallets
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In alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks Paul Spencer <ps@boynings.co.uk> wrote:
> On 8 Jun 2004 22:05:08 GMT, Marshall Banana <dan@angband.org> wrote:
>>Anyone want to explain why it
>>would be very peculiar for a lady to keep her wallet in a fanny pack in
>>the UK?
> That's easy. In the UK, ladies have purses, not wallets
My lady keeps her money in a wallet, and the wallet in a purse.. along
with 10 pound of worthless crap. :P
But seriously, I once offended a girl by offering to lend her a fanny
pack. I had NO idea of the double meaning.
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Don't let people drive you crazy when you know it's in walking distance.
> On 8 Jun 2004 22:05:08 GMT, Marshall Banana <dan@angband.org> wrote:
>>Anyone want to explain why it
>>would be very peculiar for a lady to keep her wallet in a fanny pack in
>>the UK?
> That's easy. In the UK, ladies have purses, not wallets
My lady keeps her money in a wallet, and the wallet in a purse.. along
with 10 pound of worthless crap. :P
But seriously, I once offended a girl by offering to lend her a fanny
pack. I had NO idea of the double meaning.
--
Don't let people drive you crazy when you know it's in walking distance.
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"Pete" <iowna156@alfa.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:26:41 GMT, "dreas" <dreas@shaw.ca>, wrote:
>
> >87 octane is $98.5 a litre in BC
> Please excuse my ignorance but What do you use 87 octane for?
I use it in my private car and in my taxi. I can't afford the premium
or mid-grade anymore...
-'dreas
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 19:56:17 -0400, BigJohnson@mailcity.com, wrote:
>Most car sold today are designed ot run on 87 octane,
>at least domestic brands, including high powered cars
>like the Mustang GT.
I'll take your word for it. I have Never seen a Mustang either.
Just because they stuck Italian letters after it, doesn't make it
anything like a European car. Still an Iron Horse <LOL>
I'll go with Dan's answer that Octane is different in the USA,
and in the UK we use 95 or 97 RON.
Pete
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>Most car sold today are designed ot run on 87 octane,
>at least domestic brands, including high powered cars
>like the Mustang GT.
I'll take your word for it. I have Never seen a Mustang either.
Just because they stuck Italian letters after it, doesn't make it
anything like a European car. Still an Iron Horse <LOL>
I'll go with Dan's answer that Octane is different in the USA,
and in the UK we use 95 or 97 RON.
Pete
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156 2.0 TS (2001) - Proteo Rosso (his)
147 2.0 TS (2002) - Gem Green (her's)
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In article <40C655A9.5AFBC11D@mailcity.com>, BigJohnson@mailcity.com
says...
> If you can afford an expensive Alfie you can afford
> the gas.
>
>
> mike hunt
that would be me looking for a cheap Alfa though.
newest car I've ever owned was 10 years old, first car was 12 years old.
Current car is the oldest I've ever owned, and also the most powerful,
by an increase of arround 120BHP more than the last one. but while
185BHP is nice, very good fun, and quick, it is also a little boring if
you have to drive everywhere off boost to run it, and the best fuel
economy you can manage is 30MPG, with an average of 28-29, and a low of
26.
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says...
> If you can afford an expensive Alfie you can afford
> the gas.
>
>
> mike hunt
that would be me looking for a cheap Alfa though.
newest car I've ever owned was 10 years old, first car was 12 years old.
Current car is the oldest I've ever owned, and also the most powerful,
by an increase of arround 120BHP more than the last one. but while
185BHP is nice, very good fun, and quick, it is also a little boring if
you have to drive everywhere off boost to run it, and the best fuel
economy you can manage is 30MPG, with an average of 28-29, and a low of
26.
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
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In article <40C65511.399F469D@mailcity.com>, BigJohnson@mailcity.com
says...
> Bush has a degree from Yale and an
> MBA from Harvard. From what I hear,
> Leno never graduated from high school.
>
Life experience is one of the worlds great educators. you can't buy
that, you either survive and prospor, or you die.
paper degrees mean nothing, you can only burn each one once to fuel the
fire to keep the kids warm.
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says...
> Bush has a degree from Yale and an
> MBA from Harvard. From what I hear,
> Leno never graduated from high school.
>
Life experience is one of the worlds great educators. you can't buy
that, you either survive and prospor, or you die.
paper degrees mean nothing, you can only burn each one once to fuel the
fire to keep the kids warm.
--
The poster formerly known as Skodapilot.
http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
