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Tha Ghee 04-16-2004 08:54 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 03 Apr 2004 07:00:08 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
> >You're as useless here as you are in every other group I've seen you

post.
> >You're an angry child at best and a degenerate, uneducated troll at

worst. Be
> >happy in your ignorance.

>
> Why do you guys feel compelled to communicate with this ignorant wit?


daytripper did you not get your cialias?? are you made cause your old, and
can't get it up??



Tha Ghee 04-16-2004 08:55 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040404200838.16057.00000708@mb-m04.aol.com...
> >Why do you guys feel compelled to communicate with this ignorant wit?

>
> I don't know....I shouldn't feed the trolls, but he's amusing in a sad

kind of
> way.


I'm far from a troll, if you knew what it meant you would use it in the
proper manner. how am I amusing because I'm smarter than you.



Tha Ghee 04-16-2004 09:08 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040404201924.16057.00000711@mb-m04.aol.com...
> > I didn't lose I've proven you wrong many times over, you have yet to

prove me wrong,
> >
> >I'm waiting.

>
> You're responding to yourself now, wit.
>
> >no dumb dumb I will say this only once, I stated that the GTR was AWD

goggle it.
>
> Jesus, when you can't win, you lie?
>
> >yes I want you to show me cars that are a) not made from the
> >same company, b) are not rally based.

>
> I did, try reading
>
> >on the track it didn't look it up at C
> >& D and that was only for the cheaper price and more logical interior.

>
> You're making things up. Stop it, NOW. First of all, the S4 did make C&Ds

Ten Best list, this January:
>

http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1
> Secondly, in the C&D comparo, they said:
> "Out on the twisty roads, the S4 quickly became the favorite. The firm

Recaro
> bucket keeps the driver in place without straining. The stability control

is so
> subtle in its operation that you never feel it intrude (unless you've made

a
> big mistake). Chassis dynamics are simply superb. As you brake deep into a
> turn, the S4 puts its belly to the ground and maintains amazing stability

as
> you pick up the arc toward the exit and squeeze on the power. Roll angles

are
> tightly controlled. The shocks keep body motions on a short leash. You can

feel the tires scratching and straining for grip as the front and rear
electronic
> differential locks respond to the V-8 torque. The Quattro's stern

discipline
> keeps redistributing the driving forces, allowing you to get the throttle

open
> early yet cling confidently to your intended line. This is a car that'll

work
> with you! Few sporting cars are this open in their communication, and so
> disinclined to mischief. "
> THIS IS MY FAVORITE: "Of this trio, the S4 is in a class by itself,

scoring the full 10 points in our handling rating, two above the M3 and
three above the
> C32. It also earned a 10 in fun to drive, decisively above the others.

Would
> the throaty motor music be worth a point all by itself? It might."
> YOU ARE A LIAR! AND ILLETIRATE!! PISS OFF!!
>
> >for
> >track numbers the M3 won and the E55 was the best performer for all three
> >mags.

>
> STOP LYING! The E55 wasn't even being compared to the S4, it was being

compared to the RS6!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
>
> >Steve you wouldn't know what the Car mags. said if you used it for TP

since
> >you don't read them

>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
>
> > I've posted URLs you've spouted drivel.

>
> WHEN?? YOU NEVER POSTED A URL, NOT ONCE!!
>
> >I can show you many articles that state what I've said you can't show

anything.
>
> BULLSHIT, I JUST DID!>show
>
> >what proof you have, and I'll post real articles something that you can't
> >do.

>
> I JUST DID!!!
>
> >Steve people ask for me by name and look past your postings you go off in
> >other groups and have no ideal what you saying and lots of people laugh

at
> >you trust me I can show email.

>
> PLEASE forward those e-mails to me. I'm begging you.


how am I lying if I told you to goggle it, it's in black and white. No you
didn't it's A/P or other rallying inspired cars. I'm sorry you can't read,
and the C32 isn't around anymore, so there needs to be a new test. I'll
send them to you, but don't cry.



Tha Ghee 04-16-2004 09:23 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040407164955.17939.00001011@mb-m06.aol.com...
> >the only way to have a intelligent conversation is to have it with myself

>
> You're so full of . I nailed you to the cross on that posting, now

DIE.
>
> >you're not holding up your end of the argument.

>
> Please see the above statement.
>
> >how do I lie goggle it dullard

>
> You're the last person who should be calling anyone a dullard. I don't

need to
> google the posts because I KNOW what was said. You're not only the liar,

you're the minority, and the one arguing a minority point of view (however
false it
> might be). The burden of proof is on YOU my little liar.
>
> >no you haven't they all have
> >rallying roots or come from the same company, but I guess you can't

figure
> >this out.

>
> I listed products from Mitsubishi, Nissan, Subaru, Porsche, Audi and

others.
> Please go back to the list and find how all of them are either the product

of a
> single company or derived from rally cars.
>
> >what did I lie about, look how old that test is the C32 isn't even made
> >anymore, are you this sad that you can't compare 04 models

>
> This is the road test that you'd been lying about through dozens of posts.

Now
> that I've shown the board your lies, your backpeddling in order to try and

find
> a defense. This is the most recent comparison avaliable that includes the

MB,
> BMW and Audi, and the newer model MB wasn't avaliable at the test.

However, it's of little relevance because the S4 still scored 2 points
higher than the M3 for handling and road holding, and it was ranked as the
BEST of the group, not the easiest to drive as you originally spewed.
>
> > This is sad
> >Stevie it's 04 not 99-00

>
> That test was from LATE 2003, and is the most recent where both the M3 and

the S4 were togethor. Moron, did you read the article?
>
> > no Audi in this or last years top10 so come better, oh
> >you can't.

>
> What?? Januray 2004:
>

http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1
> Januray, 2004, 2 months ago!
>
> >if you look at the sentence it states that the E55 is the best performer

of
> >sedans, and the M3 is the best in the compact class.

>
> No it doesn't! First off, the M3 and S4 were in the "middleweights"

category,
> not "compacts" which was a lower rung comparison. Secondly, the Audi

scored higher everywhere it mattered and won, it was the best! Here's the
URL to the comparo, AGAIN:
http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1
>
> >I know which ones compete against which one

>
> No you don't, you can't read.
>
> >I've posted all the major car mags. website so you can try and do some

reading.
>
> You didn't link to jack you little loser.
>
> >the only article you have is from 4 YEARS ago

>
> It's from 2003 YOU DOLT. Read it! It's less than a year old you silly

bastard.
>
> >give me your email and I'll
> >be happy to.

>
> It's in my postings, try READING.


when have you nailed me to the post, you can't post you a dummy. so you're
a dummy twice then?? dumbass Audi/Porsche?lambo are all same, but I doubt
you know this, and I also said "rally inspired" or did you miss this??
Handling is subjective, so you have to look at multiple reviews and also do
it for yourself, if you look at R&T Autom., & Autoweek, they all had the M3
rated higher. you do realize Jan was more than 2 months ago, but now I can
see you can't count or debate, this is sad. unlike you I read very well but
you don't, you need to work on that but you Burger U education to some use.



Steve Grauman 04-17-2004 05:30 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
>Audi/Porsche?lambo are all same

No, they aren't. Porsche's relationship with the Audi group is familial in
nature, but has nothing to do with Porsche owning Audi/VW or vice versa. If you
knew the history of either company, you'd know that Ferdinand Piech, formerly
the head of Audi/VW was the son-in-law of Ferdinand Porsche, but that Porsche
and Audi were scarcely involved in business togethor. Audi now owns
Lamborghini, but Lambo has it's own engineers and designers. And you've still
failed to show how any of these companies can be linked to Mitsubishi, Nissan,
Subaru or the others on my list, or how any of them except the WRX and Lancer
are rally derived.

>Handling is subjective, so you have to look at multiple reviews and also do
>it for yourself


I've been using the C&D comparison as the benchmark for months now and you
never questioned it until I threw the truth in your face. If you want to bring
other comparisons into the fold you'll need to link to them. Nobody here is
going to take your word on what they say.

Steve Grauman 04-17-2004 05:37 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
>the C32 isn't around anymore, so there needs to be a new test

You're ignoring the fact that the S4 still would have beaten the M3, no matter
which MB was there. And seeing how MB has never built an AMG-tuned C-Class as
good as the M3, I sincerely doubt getting the newer version would have made a
difference. Just admit the fact that the S4 is better than the M3 and C.

Michael Burman 04-18-2004 04:34 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
Tha Ghee wrote:
> daytripper did you not get your cialias?? are you made cause your old, and
> can't get it up??


Are you young, still hoping it would grow?

- Yak

Tha Ghee 04-24-2004 01:48 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040417183028.27202.00000024@mb-m15.aol.com...
> >Audi/Porsche?lambo are all same

>
> No, they aren't. Porsche's relationship with the Audi group is familial in
> nature, but has nothing to do with Porsche owning Audi/VW or vice versa.

If you knew the history of either company, you'd know that Ferdinand Piech,
formerly the head of Audi/VW was the son-in-law of Ferdinand Porsche, but
that Porsche and Audi were scarcely involved in business togethor. Audi now
owns
> Lamborghini, but Lambo has it's own engineers and designers. And you've

still
> failed to show how any of these companies can be linked to Mitsubishi,

Nissan,
> Subaru or the others on my list, or how any of them except the WRX and

Lancer are rally derived.
>
> >Handling is subjective, so you have to look at multiple reviews and also

do
> >it for yourself

>
> I've been using the C&D comparison as the benchmark for months now and you

never questioned it until I threw the truth in your face. If you want to
bring
> other comparisons into the fold you'll need to link to them. Nobody here

is
> going to take your word on what they say.


No, if you look at specs on Audi/Por they share a lot of common parts which
I think would have Fer Porsche turning over in is grave. Audi/Por are more
a like than you would like to admit. no I've also quoted the three mags.
but you don't read that I think Motor Trend is better and so is R & T. so
NO you didn't throw anything in my face I don't have your job I know you're
used to that.



Steve Grauman 04-24-2004 01:54 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
>No, if you look at specs on Audi/Por they share a lot of common parts which

There is not a single part being shared between Audi and Porsche, not ONE. The
closest thing would be the Cayenne, which uses a chassis co-developed by VW and
Porsche for use in the Cayenne and Toureag. But the Cayenne has it's own
suspension, engines, body and interior. It's only the bare bones of the chassis
that are the same and this says nothing of the 911 or Boxster or any of the
other Audi/VW models.

>Audi/Por are more
>a like than you would like to admit


HOW? They don't share parts, they don't co-develop models, they've got nothing
in common beyod familial connections.

>I've also quoted the three mags


No you didn't.

>Motor Trend is better and so is R & T


Ha! MT and R&T are hack job mags, and admittedly C&D is only a marginal step
up.

Tha Ghee 04-24-2004 01:56 PM

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 
"Michael Burman" <yak@iki-fi.invalid> wrote in message
news:c5us9g$7qod6$1@midnight.cs.hut.fi...
> Tha Ghee wrote:
> > daytripper did you not get your cialias?? are you made cause your old,

and
> > can't get it up??

>
> Are you young, still hoping it would grow?
>
> - Yak


no I don't need it do you, does it not work?? did you touch it too much
when your were young??




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