Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040327155207.17874.00000197@mb-m03.aol.com...
> >Ok, this is coming from the same person who has yet to put together one
> >pertinent argument
>
> That's hilarious! Your incoherent, childlike ramblings have done nothing
to
> support your point of view. You cite series regulations for F1 and Nascar
(!)
> but ignore Rallye and Touring. You cite the Skyline and then ignore me
when I
> remind you that the top-spec model was AWD. You ask me to provide you with
cars other than the 911 Turbo that use AWD and have good performance, and
when I list several, you cry foul because they won't outperfom the
million-dollar McLaren. You've got no response to the fact that Randy Probst
has beaten BMWs, Vipers and Corvettes for several seasons in an S4 and now
in an RS6. You've got no response to tests where the S4 and RS6 outperfrom
the M3 and M5 on-track. You have nothing but false claims and ramblings and
you're cornered. Take the loss and move on you stubborn jackass.

are you that lacking in creativity that you must use the same into, but
since you can't prove your point this doesn't surprise me. I was citing the
two biggest motorsport organizations. dumbass I pointed out the GTR to you
not the other way around, but you do realize the 300ZX was faster in TT trim
and was what?? No I've never cried foul all I have to say is Z06, M3, M5,
Carrea GT, any Ferrari, & SLR should I keep going?? Ok, but he has never
crossed over to F1 has he, nope. if you read car and driver or any other
mag you will see they say, that you average Joe can go faster in the S4 but
for all out performance the M series and AMG is still the fastest. I didn't
lose I've proven you wrong many times over, you have yet to prove me wrong,
I'm waiting.

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

>I was citing the
>two biggest motorsport organizations.

F1 is the biggest motorsport organization? You crticized me for using Rallye
and Touring because they aren't popular everywhere but you think F1 has tons of
fans?

> dumbass I pointed out the GTR to you
>not the other way around

You used it as an example, AND I HAD TO POINT OUT THAT IT'S AWD. Go re-read the
posts you BALD FACED LIAR.

>but you do realize the 300ZX was faster in TT trim

HA! HA! HA! In your dreams!!!

>Z06, M3, M5,

All of which have been getting beaten by an RS6 in the Speed Touring series...

>Carrea GT, any Ferrari, & SLR should I keep going??

Only if you want me to as well. We've been over the reasons why these cars have
RWD.

>Ok, but he has never
>crossed over to F1 has he, nope

Who? Is this about your imaginary friend?

> if you read car and driver or any other
>mag

If you read C&D you would have seen their comparisons involving the S4, RS6,
M3, M5, E55 AMG, C36 AMG, and S Type R where the S4 and RS6 won outright in
their respective groups. You would have also seen their better on the limit
performance. And you certainly would have seen the road tests a few years back
where the B5 based S4 became the first car in almost 10 years to topple an M3
in a direct comparison when it beat the E36 M3 and Saab 9-3 Viggen in testing.

> you will see they say, that you average Joe can go faster in the S4 but
>for all out performance the M series and AMG is still the fastest

This isn;t what any of their articles have said, but since you don't actually
read, I'll assume you didn't know any better. I'm guessing that by "reading"
what you actually mean is staring at the pictures and making up whatever words
you think fit nicely.

> I didn't
>lose I've proven you wrong many times over, you have yet to prove me wrong,
>I'm waiting.

You're as useless here as you are in every other group I've seen you post.
You're an angry child at best and a degenerate, uneducated troll at worst. Be
happy in your ignorance.

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

On 03 Apr 2004 07:00:08 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>You're as useless here as you are in every other group I've seen you post.
>You're an angry child at best and a degenerate, uneducated troll at worst. Be
>happy in your ignorance.

Why do you guys feel compelled to communicate with this ignorant wit?

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:39qt60h74q63ufgqnm6h9q08iqcurc8ibs@4ax.com...
> On 03 Apr 2004 07:00:08 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
> >You're as useless here as you are in every other group I've seen you
post.
> >You're an angry child at best and a degenerate, uneducated troll at
worst. Be
> >happy in your ignorance.
>
> Why do you guys feel compelled to communicate with this ignorant wit?

first I'm far from ignorant and I keep people on their toes, like you old
man. have you got your retirement check yet??

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040403020008.03938.00000714@mb-m05.aol.com...
> >I was citing the
> >two biggest motorsport organizations.
>
> F1 is the biggest motorsport organization? You crticized me for using
Rallye
> and Touring because they aren't popular everywhere but you think F1 has
tons of
> fans?
>
> > dumbass I pointed out the GTR to you
> >not the other way around
>
> You used it as an example, AND I HAD TO POINT OUT THAT IT'S AWD. Go
re-read the posts you BALD FACED LIAR.
>
> >but you do realize the 300ZX was faster in TT trim
>
> HA! HA! HA! In your dreams!!!
>
> >Z06, M3, M5,
>
> All of which have been getting beaten by an RS6 in the Speed Touring
series...
>
> >Carrea GT, any Ferrari, & SLR should I keep going??
>
> Only if you want me to as well. We've been over the reasons why these cars
have RWD.
>
> >Ok, but he has never crossed over to F1 has he, nope
>
> Who? Is this about your imaginary friend?
>
> > if you read car and driver or any other
> >mag
>
> If you read C&D you would have seen their comparisons involving the S4,
RS6, M3, M5, E55 AMG, C36 AMG, and S Type R where the S4 and RS6 won
outright in their respective groups. You would have also seen their better
on the limit performance. And you certainly would have seen the road tests a
few years back where the B5 based S4 became the first car in almost 10 years
to topple an M3 in a direct comparison when it beat the E36 M3 and Saab 9-3
Viggen in testing.
>
> > you will see they say, that you average Joe can go faster in the S4 but
> >for all out performance the M series and AMG is still the fastest
>
> This isn;t what any of their articles have said, but since you don't
actually
> read, I'll assume you didn't know any better. I'm guessing that by
"reading"
> what you actually mean is staring at the pictures and making up whatever
words
> you think fit nicely.
>
> > I didn't
>lose I've proven you wrong many times over, you have yet to prove me wrong,

I'm waiting.
>
> You're as useless here as you are in every other group I've seen you post.
> You're an angry child at best and a degenerate, uneducated troll at worst.
Be
> happy in your ignorance.

no dumb dumb I will say this only once, I stated that the GTR was AWD goggle
it. ok look at the 0-60 times pre R34, oh that would require you to read or
do research. yes I want you to show me cars that are a) not made from the
same company, b) are not rally based. the guy you keep talking about he
races in touring.
yes the S4 won in over all rating but on the track it didn't look it up at C
& D and that was only for the cheaper price and more logical interior. for
track numbers the M3 won and the E55 was the best performer for all three
mags.
the B5 had more power, and TT the M3 was NA.

Steve you wouldn't know what the Car mags. said if you used it for TP since
you don't read them. I've posted URLs you've spouted drivel. I can show
you many articles that state what I've said you can't show anything. show
what proof you have, and I'll post real articles something that you can't
do.

Steve people ask for me by name and look past your postings you go off in
other groups and have no ideal what you saying and lots of people laugh at
you trust me I can show email. but I'll let it pat since you have yet to
come with any evidence and your feelings and pride are hurt.

Can you only spout what others have said before, can you be original for
once. I just want you to take a IQ test are you scared that you'll be
exposed for the fool I've known for weeks. if you not scared let me know.

I'm far from a child but all you can say is um, I've seen this before so I'm
not creative to say anything else so this all I can say. troll, child & more
drivel.

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

>Why do you guys feel compelled to communicate with this ignorant wit?

I don't know....I shouldn't feed the trolls, but he's amusing in a sad kind of
way.

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

> I didn't
>>lose I've proven you wrong many times over, you have yet to prove me wrong,
>
>I'm waiting.

You're responding to yourself now, wit.

>no dumb dumb I will say this only once, I stated that the GTR was AWD goggle
>it.

Jesus, when you can't win, you lie?

>yes I want you to show me cars that are a) not made from the
>same company, b) are not rally based.

I did, try reading

>on the track it didn't look it up at C
>& D and that was only for the cheaper price and more logical interior.

You're making things up. Stop it, NOW. First of all, the S4 did make C&Ds Ten
Best list, this January:
http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1
Secondly, in the C&D comparo, they said:
"Out on the twisty roads, the S4 quickly became the favorite. The firm Recaro
bucket keeps the driver in place without straining. The stability control is so
subtle in its operation that you never feel it intrude (unless you’ve made a
big mistake). Chassis dynamics are simply superb. As you brake deep into a
turn, the S4 puts its belly to the ground and maintains amazing stability as
you pick up the arc toward the exit and squeeze on the power. Roll angles are
tightly controlled. The shocks keep body motions on a short leash. You can feel
the tires scratching and straining for grip as the front and rear electronic
differential locks respond to the V-8 torque. The Quattro’s stern discipline
keeps redistributing the driving forces, allowing you to get the throttle open
early yet cling confidently to your intended line. This is a car that’ll work
with you! Few sporting cars are this open in their communication, and so
disinclined to mischief. "
THIS IS MY FAVORITE: "Of this trio, the S4 is in a class by itself, scoring the
full 10 points in our handling rating, two above the M3 and three above the
C32. It also earned a 10 in fun to drive, decisively above the others. Would
the throaty motor music be worth a point all by itself? It might."
YOU ARE A LIAR! AND ILLETIRATE!! PISS OFF!!

>for
>track numbers the M3 won and the E55 was the best performer for all three
>mags.

STOP LYING! The E55 wasn't even being compared to the S4, it was being compared
to the RS6!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

>Steve you wouldn't know what the Car mags. said if you used it for TP since
>you don't read them

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

> I've posted URLs you've spouted drivel.

WHEN?? YOU NEVER POSTED A URL, NOT ONCE!!

>I can show
>you many articles that state what I've said you can't show anything.

BULLSHIT, I JUST DID!>show

>what proof you have, and I'll post real articles something that you can't
>do.

I JUST DID!!!

>Steve people ask for me by name and look past your postings you go off in
>other groups and have no ideal what you saying and lots of people laugh at
>you trust me I can show email.

PLEASE forward those e-mails to me. I'm begging you.

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040404200838.16057.00000708@mb-m04.aol.com...
> >Why do you guys feel compelled to communicate with this ignorant wit?
>
> I don't know....I shouldn't feed the trolls, but he's amusing in a sad
kind of
> way.

what's sad that I'm smarter then you, and have been showing you up at every
turn??

you use the term "troll" but you don't use it in the correct context so try
better.

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040404201924.16057.00000711@mb-m04.aol.com...
> > I didn't
> >>lose I've proven you wrong many times over, you have yet to prove me
wrong,
> >
> >I'm waiting.
>
> You're responding to yourself now, wit.
>
> >no dumb dumb I will say this only once, I stated that the GTR was AWD
goggle
> >it.
>
> Jesus, when you can't win, you lie?
>
> >yes I want you to show me cars that are a) not made from the
> >same company, b) are not rally based.
>
> I did, try reading
>
> >on the track it didn't look it up at C
> >& D and that was only for the cheaper price and more logical interior.
>
> You're making things up. Stop it, NOW. First of all, the S4 did make C&Ds
Ten
> Best list, this January:
>
http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1
> Secondly, in the C&D comparo, they said:
> "Out on the twisty roads, the S4 quickly became the favorite. The firm
Recaro
> bucket keeps the driver in place without straining. The stability control
is so
> subtle in its operation that you never feel it intrude (unless you've made
a
> big mistake). Chassis dynamics are simply superb. As you brake deep into a
> turn, the S4 puts its belly to the ground and maintains amazing stability
as
> you pick up the arc toward the exit and squeeze on the power. Roll angles
are
> tightly controlled. The shocks keep body motions on a short leash. You can
feel the tires scratching and straining for grip as the front and rear
electronic
> differential locks respond to the V-8 torque. The Quattro's stern
discipline
> keeps redistributing the driving forces, allowing you to get the throttle
open
> early yet cling confidently to your intended line. This is a car that'll
work
> with you! Few sporting cars are this open in their communication, and so
> disinclined to mischief. "
> THIS IS MY FAVORITE: "Of this trio, the S4 is in a class by itself,
scoring the full 10 points in our handling rating, two above the M3 and
three above the
> C32. It also earned a 10 in fun to drive, decisively above the others.
Would
> the throaty motor music be worth a point all by itself? It might."
> YOU ARE A LIAR! AND ILLETIRATE!! PISS OFF!!
>
> >for
> >track numbers the M3 won and the E55 was the best performer for all three
> >mags.
>
> STOP LYING! The E55 wasn't even being compared to the S4, it was being
compared to the RS6!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
>
> >Steve you wouldn't know what the Car mags. said if you used it for TP
since
> >you don't read them
>
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
>
> > I've posted URLs you've spouted drivel.
>
> WHEN?? YOU NEVER POSTED A URL, NOT ONCE!!
>
> >I can show
> >you many articles that state what I've said you can't show anything.
>
> BULLSHIT, I JUST DID!>show
>
> >what proof you have, and I'll post real articles something that you can't
> >do.
>
> I JUST DID!!!
>
> >Steve people ask for me by name and look past your postings you go off in
> >other groups and have no ideal what you saying and lots of people laugh
at
> >you trust me I can show email.
>
> PLEASE forward those e-mails to me. I'm begging you.

the only way to have a intelligent conversation is to have it with myself
you're not holding up your end of the argument. how do I lie goggle it
dullard it's on the net for all to see. no you haven't they all have
rallying roots or come from the same company, but I guess you can't figure
this out.

what did I lie about, look how old that test is the C32 isn't even made
anymore, are you this sad that you can't compare 04 models. This is sad
Stevie it's 04 not 99-00 so come better, no you piss off.
www.caranddriver.com no Audi in this or last years top10 so come better, oh
you can't.

if you look at the sentence it states that the E55 is the best performer of
sedans, and the M3 is the best in the compact class. I know which ones
compete against which one, I've pointed this out to you many times, but you
don't read this. I've posted all the major car mags. website so you can try
and do some reading. Goggle it pissant, so I don't have to keep doing it.
the only article you have is from 4 YEARS ago, is that when you got to read
the mag. when you spent time in the big house?? give me your email and I'll
be happy to.

Re: Buying new A4,330i, G35, CTS, C320
 

>the only way to have a intelligent conversation is to have it with myself

You're so full of . I nailed you to the cross on that posting, now DIE.

>you're not holding up your end of the argument.

Please see the above statement.

>how do I lie goggle it
>dullard

You're the last person who should be calling anyone a dullard. I don't need to
google the posts because I KNOW what was said. You're not only the liar, you're
the minority, and the one arguing a minority point of view (however false it
might be). The burden of proof is on YOU my little liar.

>no you haven't they all have
>rallying roots or come from the same company, but I guess you can't figure
>this out.

I listed products from Mitsubishi, Nissan, Subaru, Porsche, Audi and others.
Please go back to the list and find how all of them are either the product of a
single company or derived from rally cars.

>what did I lie about, look how old that test is the C32 isn't even made
>anymore, are you this sad that you can't compare 04 models

This is the road test that you'd been lying about through dozens of posts. Now
that I've shown the board your lies, your backpeddling in order to try and find
a defense. This is the most recent comparison avaliable that includes the MB,
BMW and Audi, and the newer model MB wasn't avaliable at the test. However,
it's of little relevance because the S4 still scored 2 points higher than the
M3 for handling and road holding, and it was ranked as the BEST of the group,
not the easiest to drive as you originally spewed.

> This is sad
>Stevie it's 04 not 99-00

That test was from LATE 2003, and is the most recent where both the M3 and the
S4 were togethor. Moron, did you read the article?

> no Audi in this or last years top10 so come better, oh
>you can't.

What?? Januray 2004:
http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1
Januray, 2004, 2 months ago!

>if you look at the sentence it states that the E55 is the best performer of
>sedans, and the M3 is the best in the compact class.

No it doesn't! First off, the M3 and S4 were in the "middleweights" category,
not "compacts" which was a lower rung comparison. Secondly, the Audi scored
higher everywhere it mattered and won, it was the best! Here's the URL to the
comparo, AGAIN:
http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=1

>I know which ones
>compete against which one

No you don't, you can't read.

>I've posted all the major car mags. website so you can try
>and do some reading.

You didn't link to jack you little loser.

>the only article you have is from 4 YEARS ago

It's from 2003 YOU DOLT. Read it! It's less than a year old you silly bastard.

>give me your email and I'll
>be happy to.

It's in my postings, try READING.