Saintor

> > It does not matter. At all.
>
> It sure does. Without it, you have no PROOF. Just pissing in the
> wind.
>
> > But thanks for the compliment, anyway.
>
> It wasn't a compliment, dumbass. It was derisive.
>
> More proof that you aren't very bright (as if I needed to help prove
> that to anyone.)
>
> Must really make you mad that I spoil your fun so. I'm going to keep
> doing it, too - and you can't stop me.
> --


I know; this is the normal nature of persons like you with quite a few
chronic mental problems. I am sure you will find at least one psychiatrist
in Oregon. Good luck.

Jonesy

"Saintor" <saintor1@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message news:<o06mc.39535$oJ2.562678@weber.videotron.net>. ..
> > > It does not matter. At all.
> >
> > It sure does. Without it, you have no PROOF. Just pissing in the
> > wind.
> >
> > > But thanks for the compliment, anyway.
> >
> > It wasn't a compliment, dumbass. It was derisive.
> >
> > More proof that you aren't very bright (as if I needed to help prove
> > that to anyone.)
> >
> > Must really make you mad that I spoil your fun so. I'm going to keep
> > doing it, too - and you can't stop me.
> > --
>
> I know; this is the normal nature of persons like you with quite a few
> chronic mental problems.

LOL. You're not smart enough to recognize mental problems. Don't
flatter yourself as having anything more than a high school education,
and even then, your grades would not have got you into college. Too
bad for you, obvious to everyone else.

> I am sure you will find at least one psychiatrist
> in Oregon. Good luck.

Why would I do that? I don't live there, after all.
--
Jonesy

Tha Ghee

"AfourQ" <AfourQ@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c768tc$gjc$1@dns3.cae.ca...
> > no they use the I-6 because it's perfectly balanced.. how can it be one
> is a 6 spd manual and the other is a 5 spd auto??
>
> How can what be?? Please expand?
> The B5 S4 (2.7T V6) and the B6 S4 (4.2 V are both available with the
6spd
> manual.
>

I'm sorry I was thinking A6/RS6. but the BMW is a straight six not Vee

Cam Newton

On 4 May 2004 15:15:08 -0700, beelzebubba@hotmail.com (Jonesy) wrote:

>Cam Newton (ccnewto@hotmail.com) wrote in message news:<409289e6.92370631@news.gv.shawcable.net>...
>> On 30 Apr 2004 09:15:48 -0700, beelzebubba@hotmail.com (Jonesy) wrote:
>>
>> >Cam Newton (ccnewto@hotmail.com) wrote in message news:<4091697d.18537535@news.gv.shawcable.net>...
>> >> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 16:36:56 -0400, "AfourQ" <AfourQ@hotmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I can honostly say that if he does buy the A4 for the fun factor, a chipped
>> >> >1.8T will be a far better choice. Better response in handling and
>> >> >acceleration. Granted not as smooth as the V6 , but definately more fun.
>> >> >
>> >> >Try both and judge for yourself.........
>> >> >
>> >> >My $0.02
>> >>
>> >> I was at the Audi dealer and he said that a chipped car came in that
>> >> blew the computer. The car in question, not mine, needs a new
>> >> computer. The chip negates the warranty. Rather than chipping at 1.8T
>> >> get 3l.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >It has been mentioned before that a chip *could* void a warranty. It
>> >depends on the dealer. I have heard that there are some fairly
>> >liberal dealers out there who will actually install the chip for you
>> >and still honor the warranty. Then, there are the dealers who will
>> >void your warranty for adding an aftermarket stereo. As in, if you
>> >have a suspension problem, they will disallow that as a warranty
>> >repair.
>> >
>> >You could hire a lawyer and force them to pay for the repair (as
>> >clearly, the stereo could not have possibly caused any suspension
>> >hassle) but the burden is on you to jump through the hoops to prove
>> >them wrong.
>> >
>> >The turbo car is cheaper in inital aquisition, cheaper to run (less
>> >thirsty when off-boost) and has more performance potential AFTER the
>> >warranty has run out. Then you can fiddle with the motor all you
>> >want, and not worry about voiding the powertrain warranty. Before the
>> >warranty runs out, find a dealer that's friendly to chip-tuning, and
>> >you're totally golden.
>> >--
>> >Jonesy
>>
>> I think honouring the warranty is up to the manufacturer.
>
>It would be nice, if that were true. The problem is this: the dealer
>can just say "no." And then you have to start jumping through hoops,
>even if you are 100% correct.
>
>You then complain to Audi of America. They give you the runaround.
>You give up because the hassle is too much. They win, even if you
>never buy another car from them. (Short-term gain is everything in the
>business world.)

I have to strongly disagree. I have been a VAG customer for 20 yrs and
have purchased a Jetta and the A4 from the same dealer. The cost to
acquire new customers is many times that of repeat. All businesses
require repeat customers, full stop.

>
>It's shitty that they act like this, but a lot of them, not just Audi,
>act like this. Hell, I'd bet that some MBA genius gives dealers
>brownie points for refusing warranty claims. After all, once they say
>"no," *you're* the poor sucker who has to prove them wrong.
>--
>Jonesy

Jonesy

ccnewto@hotmail.com (Cam Newton) wrote in message news:<40a01412.28118542@news.gv.shawcable.net>...
> On 4 May 2004 15:15:08 -0700, beelzebubba@hotmail.com (Jonesy) wrote:

> >> I think honouring the warranty is up to the manufacturer.
> >
> >It would be nice, if that were true. The problem is this: the dealer
> >can just say "no." And then you have to start jumping through hoops,
> >even if you are 100% correct.
> >
> >You then complain to Audi of America. They give you the runaround.
> >You give up because the hassle is too much. They win, even if you
> >never buy another car from them. (Short-term gain is everything in the
> >business world.)
>
> I have to strongly disagree.

With which part? That they will deny warranty claims for just about
any reason? The internet is full of stories about denied claims, for
ludicrous reasons. On Audis and VWs.

> I have been a VAG customer for 20 yrs and
> have purchased a Jetta and the A4 from the same dealer. The cost to
> acquire new customers is many times that of repeat. All businesses
> require repeat customers, full stop.

So you'd think that they'd be smart and honor just about any
reasonable warranty claim. Yet they do not. You'd think they'd weed
out the crappy dealers, the ones who treat their customers poorly.
Yet they do not.

The bottom line is that if you chip the car, VW or Audi, many dealers
will deny just about any warranty claim, even those not related to the
drivetrain, leaving you to prove, in court, that the chip did not
cause the damage. And VAG is not the only company to do this kind of
thing. They ALL do it, because they can. You will note that this is
not in the realm of the speculative, but based on reality.
--
Jonesy