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2011 Audi Q5 changes...

Old Apr 19, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by afretes
The Panorama roof will be a stand alone option for $2,300.
You think a sunroof would be included in a vehicle like this. Isn't it standard in every A4? Can we also expect a price difference in the Q5 2.0T similar to what happened when the A5 2.0 TFSI was introduced ? C'mon, you can tell us...
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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How many horses are behind the 2.0T engine? Same engine as the A4?
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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Same as the A4 2.0T at 211 HP which I think isn't enough for a car of that size and weight but that's my opinion.
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 01:16 PM
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Totally agree with you - 211HP is weak for a truck...
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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There is a reason why the A4 and now the A5 with the 3.2 engine have been discontinued. The 2.0t is more than enough for this vehicle. 258 ft/lbs is higher than what the 3.2 develops and with less fuel.

The 2.0t is the engine guys! The whole world runs on 4 cylinder engines, only in NA we think we need a 6 or more.
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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Why hasn't the 3.2 been discontinue by Audi on the Q5 yet?

Also, has Audi fixed the oil issue with their 2.0 turbo engines? I am referring to the previous gen A4 that required 1L of oil added every 1-2 months.

Based on Edmunds, the 2.0T engine has an estimated combined 23 mpg, versus the 3.2 which is surprisingly lower at 20 mpg.

Frankly the only reason I think a 2.0t would be offered on this car is for the price to be lower so more people can afford it. Ultimately the market will be flooded with Q5 like it is with 3.2.

I am confident in making the above statement because logically from a market perspective Audi should have came to NA with the 2.0t first to attract buyers.


A few more things to consider:

2.0t engine mostly used on the A4. The A4 has a base curb weight of 3500 pounds. Now put this same engine on the Q5 with the weight of 4200. So essentially you gain 15 more torque, but loose 60 horsepower and you end up wasting more gas but you do save 3-5K on base price.

Lots to think about.

Of course my logic is totally different when it comes to TDI engines. But for the Q5 in particular I don't think an 8 speed 2.T engine is smart specially considering the long-term issues and maintenance of turbo engines in general.

Bottom line in my opinion 2.0T engine on the Q5 is not smart, it will result in market flood like the X3.

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Old Apr 19, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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You make some good points.

This is a vehicle that could benefit from having two engine choices. Unlike the A4 or A5 that very few people really bought.

The oil issues were on some, and very few B7 platform A4 models. Same as carbon build up.

Those fuel stats are wrong. This is what I have:



You can find them here:

http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...guide-2009.pdf

This is a neat tool:

Fuel Consumption Ratings

I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say "I don't think an 8 speed 2.T engine is smart specially considering the long-term issues and maintenance of turbo engines in general"
Our turbo engines have been by far our better engines. In fact I would even say that we make better 4 cyl engines than 6s. Our previous 1.8t and now the 2.0t have won engine of the year awards for the last few years.

You don't need to worry about flooding the market with them. We won't get that many to begin with. Our supply is limited.

Originally Posted by warcity
Why hasn't the 3.2 been discontinue by Audi on the Q5 yet?

Also, has Audi fixed the oil issue with their 2.0 turbo engines? I am referring to the previous gen A4 that required 1L of oil added every 1-2 months.

Based on Edmunds, the 2.0T engine has an estimated combined 23 mpg, versus the 3.2 which is surprisingly lower at 20 mpg.

Frankly the only reason I think a 2.0t would be offered on this car is for the price to be lower so more people can afford it. Ultimately the market will be flooded with Q5 like it is with 3.2.

I am confident in making the above statement because logically from a market perspective Audi should have came to NA with the 2.0t first to attract buyers.


A few more things to consider:

2.0t engine mostly used on the A4. The A4 has a base curb weight of 3500 pounds. Now put this same engine on the Q5 with the weight of 4200. So essentially you gain 15 more torque, but loose 60 horsepower and you end up wasting more gas but you do save 3-5K on base price.

Lots to think about.

Of course my logic is totally different when it comes to TDI engines. But for the Q5 in particular I don't think an 8 speed 2.T engine is smart specially considering the long-term issues and maintenance of turbo engines in general.

Bottom line in my opinion 2.0T engine on the Q5 is not smart, it will result in market flood like the X3.

Cheers.
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Excellent site/links above thank you. I am not sure why several sites are mis-quoting the 2.0 versus 3.2 gas consumptions but they are "very" close. Question is does one want to give up 60 Horse Powers to save $330.00 a year on gas? (I used the stats provided above).

Good stuff thought.
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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I am supposed to be getting my new q5 end of month, man if the new 2011 models are due in a month or two I should have just waited for the new 3.2 with all the extras it comes with.
Old Apr 19, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by warcity
Frankly the only reason I think a 2.0t would be offered on this car is for the price to be lower so more people can afford it. Ultimately the market will be flooded with Q5 like it is with 3.2.
Bingo! Maybe Audi wants to sell more cars... although with the limited inventory you have to wonder. Another thing to consider, maybe Audi is losing too many buyers to the Tiguan.

Originally Posted by warcity
I am confident in making the above statement because logically from a market perspective Audi should have came to NA with the 2.0t first to attract buyers.
I think Audi has a history of bringing more expensive options to market first, not cheaper ones. The larger engine/horsepower was more likely introduced first for those who need the towing capacity.


Originally Posted by warcity
2.0t engine mostly used on the A4. The A4 has a base curb weight of 3500 pounds. Now put this same engine on the Q5 with the weight of 4200. So essentially you gain 15 more torque, but loose 60 horsepower and you end up wasting more gas but you do save 3-5K on base price.

Lots to think about.
Hmmm? Wouldn't the curg weight be less on the Q5 2.0T? A5 curb weight for the 2.0TFSI is 3,583 lbs. , the 3.2 FSI was 3,770 lbs. Looks like you'll be carrying an extra 187 lbs. around.

Most reviewers have also noted that the A5 2.0T is more balanced and handles better than the previous V6. Maybe this might be a prefered trait in the Q5 as well. I guess it just depends on what you want out of your "sport" utility.

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