2011 Audi Q5 changes...
04-23-2010, 04:44 PM
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Re: 2011 Audi Q5 changes...
Why hasn't the 3.2 been discontinue by Audi on the Q5 yet?
Also, has Audi fixed the oil issue with their 2.0 turbo engines? I am referring to the previous gen A4 that required 1L of oil added every 1-2 months.
Based on Edmunds, the 2.0T engine has an estimated combined 23 mpg, versus the 3.2 which is surprisingly lower at 20 mpg.
Frankly the only reason I think a 2.0t would be offered on this car is for the price to be lower so more people can afford it. Ultimately the market will be flooded with Q5 like it is with 3.2.
I am confident in making the above statement because logically from a market perspective Audi should have came to NA with the 2.0t first to attract buyers.
A few more things to consider:
2.0t engine mostly used on the A4. The A4 has a base curb weight of 3500 pounds. Now put this same engine on the Q5 with the weight of 4200. So essentially you gain 15 more torque, but loose 60 horsepower and you end up wasting more gas but you do save 3-5K on base price.
Lots to think about.
Of course my logic is totally different when it comes to TDI engines. But for the Q5 in particular I don't think an 8 speed 2.T engine is smart specially considering the long-term issues and maintenance of turbo engines in general.
Bottom line in my opinion 2.0T engine on the Q5 is not smart, it will result in market flood like the X3.
Cheers.
Also, has Audi fixed the oil issue with their 2.0 turbo engines? I am referring to the previous gen A4 that required 1L of oil added every 1-2 months.
Based on Edmunds, the 2.0T engine has an estimated combined 23 mpg, versus the 3.2 which is surprisingly lower at 20 mpg.
Frankly the only reason I think a 2.0t would be offered on this car is for the price to be lower so more people can afford it. Ultimately the market will be flooded with Q5 like it is with 3.2.
I am confident in making the above statement because logically from a market perspective Audi should have came to NA with the 2.0t first to attract buyers.
A few more things to consider:
2.0t engine mostly used on the A4. The A4 has a base curb weight of 3500 pounds. Now put this same engine on the Q5 with the weight of 4200. So essentially you gain 15 more torque, but loose 60 horsepower and you end up wasting more gas but you do save 3-5K on base price.
Lots to think about.
Of course my logic is totally different when it comes to TDI engines. But for the Q5 in particular I don't think an 8 speed 2.T engine is smart specially considering the long-term issues and maintenance of turbo engines in general.
Bottom line in my opinion 2.0T engine on the Q5 is not smart, it will result in market flood like the X3.
Cheers.
Nailed it! Couldn't have broken it down better if I tried!
04-23-2010, 04:57 PM
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Re: 2011 Audi Q5 changes...
Audi dealers try to put it in the consumers heads that Audi is so far behind in production and can not keep up with demand.
It's Audi HQ drilling this into the dealers heads and them into the consumers. The fact of the matter is Audi is doing this on purpose. It's called lean manufacturing, JIT (just in time manufacturer), whereby you reduce costs by maintaining low inventory levels and getting parts from your suppliers as you need them.
Last edited by billyjean; 04-23-2010 at 05:51 PM.
04-24-2010, 11:06 AM
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Re: 2011 Audi Q5 changes...
The 7 weeks you were quoted is for building the car exactly to a customer order. Reworking vehicles in the 'yard' by swapping out interiors wouldn't be lean at all. Any good implementation of lean would strive only to build-to-order (ie. build exactly what a customer wants, a 'sold-order') instead of guessing what combinations to carry in inventory. So while Audi is happy that they are building primarily sold-orders, I am sure they would like more capacity to fulfil other orders. That would involve flexing other llines and plants to build the Q5 without negatively impacting their other product(s) capacity. The improvement Audi would like to make would be to reduce the 7-week lead-time, but considering the shipping it would be difficult to make it a whole lot faster. I remember when my Q5 was built, it only took a couple of days to be 'built', once it was 'cleared for production'. I would guess 'cleared for production' implies that line capacity exists and all parts required are squared-up.
Last edited by golfgl; 04-24-2010 at 11:10 AM.
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