two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
#31
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S 2.8L V6 engine
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:54:37 -0700, 377 <boeing377@aol.com> wrote:
>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
>fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
>Audi US ever responds to my emails. There was no floor mat issue and
>it wasn't a sticking throttle as you might expect from a dirty
>throttle plate, it rapidly and radically accelerated. In the second
>incident I was in 5 mph city traffic and it took off. When I put it in
>neutral it was up against the rev limiter, close to 5500 rpm with both
>feet up and off the pedals. In the hands of a panicked old driver this
>fault can and will kill people. Somehow there may be a clue in the
>reduced brake boost prior to the uncommanded acceleration incident.
>Can anyone see a way that reduced or falling brake boost vacuum could
>cause or be related to this?
Try this:
Put your foot on the brake pedal. Have someone that knows where the
brake pedal is show you.
In *neutral*, rev the engine to 5000 rpms.
Now, drop the gear shift lever into drive.
I gots me a hundred bucks that says you won't move a foot.
>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
>fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
>Audi US ever responds to my emails. There was no floor mat issue and
>it wasn't a sticking throttle as you might expect from a dirty
>throttle plate, it rapidly and radically accelerated. In the second
>incident I was in 5 mph city traffic and it took off. When I put it in
>neutral it was up against the rev limiter, close to 5500 rpm with both
>feet up and off the pedals. In the hands of a panicked old driver this
>fault can and will kill people. Somehow there may be a clue in the
>reduced brake boost prior to the uncommanded acceleration incident.
>Can anyone see a way that reduced or falling brake boost vacuum could
>cause or be related to this?
Try this:
Put your foot on the brake pedal. Have someone that knows where the
brake pedal is show you.
In *neutral*, rev the engine to 5000 rpms.
Now, drop the gear shift lever into drive.
I gots me a hundred bucks that says you won't move a foot.
#32
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
"Dave LaCourse" <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote in message
news:eb58735baaoc5jp48mbc7neeroth5fjbgd@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
>
>
15 years...............were the brakes working.
#33
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S 2.8L V6 engine
On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:54:37 -0700, 377 <boeing377@aol.com> wrote:
>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
>fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
>Audi US ever responds to my emails. There was no floor mat issue and
>it wasn't a sticking throttle as you might expect from a dirty
>throttle plate, it rapidly and radically accelerated. In the second
>incident I was in 5 mph city traffic and it took off. When I put it in
>neutral it was up against the rev limiter, close to 5500 rpm with both
>feet up and off the pedals. In the hands of a panicked old driver this
>fault can and will kill people. Somehow there may be a clue in the
>reduced brake boost prior to the uncommanded acceleration incident.
>Can anyone see a way that reduced or falling brake boost vacuum could
>cause or be related to this?
Try this:
Put your foot on the brake pedal. Have someone that knows where the
brake pedal is show you.
In *neutral*, rev the engine to 5000 rpms.
Now, drop the gear shift lever into drive.
I gots me a hundred bucks that says you won't move a foot.
>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
>fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
>Audi US ever responds to my emails. There was no floor mat issue and
>it wasn't a sticking throttle as you might expect from a dirty
>throttle plate, it rapidly and radically accelerated. In the second
>incident I was in 5 mph city traffic and it took off. When I put it in
>neutral it was up against the rev limiter, close to 5500 rpm with both
>feet up and off the pedals. In the hands of a panicked old driver this
>fault can and will kill people. Somehow there may be a clue in the
>reduced brake boost prior to the uncommanded acceleration incident.
>Can anyone see a way that reduced or falling brake boost vacuum could
>cause or be related to this?
Try this:
Put your foot on the brake pedal. Have someone that knows where the
brake pedal is show you.
In *neutral*, rev the engine to 5000 rpms.
Now, drop the gear shift lever into drive.
I gots me a hundred bucks that says you won't move a foot.
#34
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
In article <eb58735baaoc5jp48mbc7neeroth5fjbgd@4ax.com>,
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
First, there are several ways for an engine to uncontrollably
accelerate. Check recall listing web sites.
Brake booster blow-out or malfunction
Electronic throttle malfunction
Cruise control failure
Intake gasket blow-out
Cracked intake
Broken throttle return spring
Throttle cable seizes
Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
engine for a few seconds before overheating. Any teen who's thrashed
his car can tell you that.
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
First, there are several ways for an engine to uncontrollably
accelerate. Check recall listing web sites.
Brake booster blow-out or malfunction
Electronic throttle malfunction
Cruise control failure
Intake gasket blow-out
Cracked intake
Broken throttle return spring
Throttle cable seizes
Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
engine for a few seconds before overheating. Any teen who's thrashed
his car can tell you that.
#35
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
In article <eb58735baaoc5jp48mbc7neeroth5fjbgd@4ax.com>,
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
First, there are several ways for an engine to uncontrollably
accelerate. Check recall listing web sites.
Brake booster blow-out or malfunction
Electronic throttle malfunction
Cruise control failure
Intake gasket blow-out
Cracked intake
Broken throttle return spring
Throttle cable seizes
Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
engine for a few seconds before overheating. Any teen who's thrashed
his car can tell you that.
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
First, there are several ways for an engine to uncontrollably
accelerate. Check recall listing web sites.
Brake booster blow-out or malfunction
Electronic throttle malfunction
Cruise control failure
Intake gasket blow-out
Cracked intake
Broken throttle return spring
Throttle cable seizes
Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
engine for a few seconds before overheating. Any teen who's thrashed
his car can tell you that.
#36
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
In article <eb58735baaoc5jp48mbc7neeroth5fjbgd@4ax.com>,
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
First, there are several ways for an engine to uncontrollably
accelerate. Check recall listing web sites.
Brake booster blow-out or malfunction
Electronic throttle malfunction
Cruise control failure
Intake gasket blow-out
Cracked intake
Broken throttle return spring
Throttle cable seizes
Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
engine for a few seconds before overheating. Any teen who's thrashed
his car can tell you that.
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
First, there are several ways for an engine to uncontrollably
accelerate. Check recall listing web sites.
Brake booster blow-out or malfunction
Electronic throttle malfunction
Cruise control failure
Intake gasket blow-out
Cracked intake
Broken throttle return spring
Throttle cable seizes
Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
engine for a few seconds before overheating. Any teen who's thrashed
his car can tell you that.
#37
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
In article <eb58735baaoc5jp48mbc7neeroth5fjbgd@4ax.com>,
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
First, there are several ways for an engine to uncontrollably
accelerate. Check recall listing web sites.
Brake booster blow-out or malfunction
Electronic throttle malfunction
Cruise control failure
Intake gasket blow-out
Cracked intake
Broken throttle return spring
Throttle cable seizes
Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
engine for a few seconds before overheating. Any teen who's thrashed
his car can tell you that.
Dave LaCourse <dplacourse@pirateaol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 10:56:43 +0100, "Yes Baby"
> <2468@never2latebtinternet.com> wrote:
>
> >All ideas appreciated.
>
> 1. Get a job and stop trying to make money off of Audi.
>
> 2. If you must drive, learn where the brake pedal is.
>
> 3. Please do not have children.
>
> Dave
> (who has been driving Audis for 25 years and knows there ain't no
> sudden acceleration problem. There is not an engine made that can
> overcome the brakes *IF they are applied)
First, there are several ways for an engine to uncontrollably
accelerate. Check recall listing web sites.
Brake booster blow-out or malfunction
Electronic throttle malfunction
Cruise control failure
Intake gasket blow-out
Cracked intake
Broken throttle return spring
Throttle cable seizes
Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
engine for a few seconds before overheating. Any teen who's thrashed
his car can tell you that.
#38
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:09:02 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
>engine for a few seconds before overheating.
Bull! The brakes that are locked, not generating *any* heat won't
overheat. The transmission/torque converter will, but not the brakes.
If you are having an unintended throttle situation while moving,
locking up the brakes resolves that issue.
>Any teen who's thrashed
>his car can tell you that.
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
>engine for a few seconds before overheating.
Bull! The brakes that are locked, not generating *any* heat won't
overheat. The transmission/torque converter will, but not the brakes.
If you are having an unintended throttle situation while moving,
locking up the brakes resolves that issue.
>Any teen who's thrashed
>his car can tell you that.
#39
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:09:02 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
>engine for a few seconds before overheating.
Bull! The brakes that are locked, not generating *any* heat won't
overheat. The transmission/torque converter will, but not the brakes.
If you are having an unintended throttle situation while moving,
locking up the brakes resolves that issue.
>Any teen who's thrashed
>his car can tell you that.
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
>engine for a few seconds before overheating.
Bull! The brakes that are locked, not generating *any* heat won't
overheat. The transmission/torque converter will, but not the brakes.
If you are having an unintended throttle situation while moving,
locking up the brakes resolves that issue.
>Any teen who's thrashed
>his car can tell you that.
#40
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Re: two SCARY sudden acceleration incidents 92 Audi 100S
On Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:09:02 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
>engine for a few seconds before overheating.
Bull! The brakes that are locked, not generating *any* heat won't
overheat. The transmission/torque converter will, but not the brakes.
If you are having an unintended throttle situation while moving,
locking up the brakes resolves that issue.
>Any teen who's thrashed
>his car can tell you that.
<mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>Second, the brakes in many cars can only hold back a full throttle
>engine for a few seconds before overheating.
Bull! The brakes that are locked, not generating *any* heat won't
overheat. The transmission/torque converter will, but not the brakes.
If you are having an unintended throttle situation while moving,
locking up the brakes resolves that issue.
>Any teen who's thrashed
>his car can tell you that.