dave AKA vwdoc1

Then I wonder where the engine got its air supply from.
It must have thought it was on the runway taking off to fly!

I think on your engine you have a stabilizer valve that allows more air
inside of the engine controlled by the ECM. But I am not sure of the
controls on your engine except that it should have something to allow air
inside without accelerator intervention. Sometimes my '91 Passat will have
a very high idle and I need to cycle the ign off and back on. I think I
need to replace my ECM since I have checked everything else.

Glad you think on your seat!

Please post what is found.......I am curious!
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


"377" <boeing377@aol.com> wrote in message
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>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
> fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
> Audi US ever responds to my emails. There was no floor mat issue and
> it wasn't a sticking throttle as you might expect from a dirty
> throttle plate, it rapidly and radically accelerated. In the second
> incident I was in 5 mph city traffic and it took off. When I put it in
> neutral it was up against the rev limiter, close to 5500 rpm with both
> feet up and off the pedals. In the hands of a panicked old driver this
> fault can and will kill people. Somehow there may be a clue in the
> reduced brake boost prior to the uncommanded acceleration incident.
> Can anyone see a way that reduced or falling brake boost vacuum could
> cause or be related to this?
>

dave AKA vwdoc1

Then I wonder where the engine got its air supply from.
It must have thought it was on the runway taking off to fly!

I think on your engine you have a stabilizer valve that allows more air
inside of the engine controlled by the ECM. But I am not sure of the
controls on your engine except that it should have something to allow air
inside without accelerator intervention. Sometimes my '91 Passat will have
a very high idle and I need to cycle the ign off and back on. I think I
need to replace my ECM since I have checked everything else.

Glad you think on your seat!

Please post what is found.......I am curious!
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


"377" <boeing377@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181796877.881392.125990@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
> fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
> Audi US ever responds to my emails. There was no floor mat issue and
> it wasn't a sticking throttle as you might expect from a dirty
> throttle plate, it rapidly and radically accelerated. In the second
> incident I was in 5 mph city traffic and it took off. When I put it in
> neutral it was up against the rev limiter, close to 5500 rpm with both
> feet up and off the pedals. In the hands of a panicked old driver this
> fault can and will kill people. Somehow there may be a clue in the
> reduced brake boost prior to the uncommanded acceleration incident.
> Can anyone see a way that reduced or falling brake boost vacuum could
> cause or be related to this?
>

dave AKA vwdoc1

Then I wonder where the engine got its air supply from.
It must have thought it was on the runway taking off to fly!

I think on your engine you have a stabilizer valve that allows more air
inside of the engine controlled by the ECM. But I am not sure of the
controls on your engine except that it should have something to allow air
inside without accelerator intervention. Sometimes my '91 Passat will have
a very high idle and I need to cycle the ign off and back on. I think I
need to replace my ECM since I have checked everything else.

Glad you think on your seat!

Please post what is found.......I am curious!
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)


"377" <boeing377@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181796877.881392.125990@i13g2000prf.googlegr oups.com...
>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
> fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
> Audi US ever responds to my emails. There was no floor mat issue and
> it wasn't a sticking throttle as you might expect from a dirty
> throttle plate, it rapidly and radically accelerated. In the second
> incident I was in 5 mph city traffic and it took off. When I put it in
> neutral it was up against the rev limiter, close to 5500 rpm with both
> feet up and off the pedals. In the hands of a panicked old driver this
> fault can and will kill people. Somehow there may be a clue in the
> reduced brake boost prior to the uncommanded acceleration incident.
> Can anyone see a way that reduced or falling brake boost vacuum could
> cause or be related to this?
>

PeterD

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:54:37 -0700, 377 <boeing377@aol.com> wrote:

>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
>fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
>Audi US ever responds to my emails.

It is most unlikely that they will be terribly interested in examining
a 15 year old vehicle...

PeterD

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:54:37 -0700, 377 <boeing377@aol.com> wrote:

>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
>fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
>Audi US ever responds to my emails.

It is most unlikely that they will be terribly interested in examining
a 15 year old vehicle...

PeterD

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:54:37 -0700, 377 <boeing377@aol.com> wrote:

>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
>fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
>Audi US ever responds to my emails.

It is most unlikely that they will be terribly interested in examining
a 15 year old vehicle...

PeterD

On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:54:37 -0700, 377 <boeing377@aol.com> wrote:

>V 6 right. I normally would have torn into things trying to find a
>fault, but I want Audi US techs to look at it undisturbed, that is if
>Audi US ever responds to my emails.

It is most unlikely that they will be terribly interested in examining
a 15 year old vehicle...

Yes Baby

"377" <boeing377@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181773510.412883.35900@n15g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
> Happened yesterday. Below is text of two messages I sent to NHTSA on
> their complaint form. Notified AUDI US also, but no reply . I always
> thought these claims were BS and from old drivers who accidentally
> depressed the accelerator pedal when they thought they were pressing
> the brake. It is scary, it is real and it needs to be looked into by
> Audi. I skydive and I have had two main chute malfunctions that
> required cutaways. I have experience in handling emergencies and not
> panicking. I was NOT pressing on the gas pedal. I didnt want to shut
> off the engine with the key until I was stopped as I feared losing
> steering.
>
> I looked on the NHSTA website and there have been a couple of other
> complaints besides mine that were nearly identical. One guy assumed
> like I did that it was a cruise control issue, but it isn't. He is
> probably still driving thinking the problem has been fixed. The second
> incident happened with the cruise fuse pulled.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? The only clue was brake pedal effort seemed to
> increase right before it happened, as if vacuum boost had been lost or
> decreased. All ideas appreciated.
>
> first incident:
>
> RUNAWAY THROTTLE. UNCOMMANDED ENGAGEMENT OF CRUISE CONTROL? WOULD NOT
> RESPOND TO BRAKE OR SHUTTING CRUISE CONTROL OFF ON STEERING COLUMN
> STALK SWITCH. VERY DANGEROUS!!! ALMOST CAUSED A CRASH, VERY
> INEFFECTIVE BRAKING WITH ENGINE TRYING TO KEEP CAR GOING AT ABOUT 55
> MPH, BUT I MANAGED TO PULL OVER AND SHUT CAR OFF. I PULLED THE CRUISE
> CONTROL FUSE AND PROBLEM HAS NOT REAPPEARED.
>
> second incident:
>
> DANGEROUS UNCOMMANDED ACCELERATION. I SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT EARLIER
> TODAY THAT SAID I THOUGHT IT WAS A CRUISE CONTROL PROBLEM BUT IT ISNT.
> IT HAPPENED AGAIN TODAY WITH THE CC FUSE PULLED!!! IT WAS PRECEDED BY
> A FUNNY FEELING IN THE BRAKES, LIKE NOT ENOUGH VACUUM BOOST, THEN
> RADICAL ENGINE ACCELERATION EVEN WITH MY FOOT OFF THE GAS PEDAL. I PUT
> THE CAR IN NEUTRAL, THE TACH REDLINED AND THEN I SHUT OFF THE
> IGNITION. STARTED IT AND IT DID IT AGAIN. I AM AN ENGINEER AND NEVER
> BELIEVED THE STORIES ABOUT AUDIS AND UNINTENDED ACCELERATION... BUT
> NOW I KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN AND IT IS SUPER DANGEROUS!!!!
>

sell now,

clearly stating for a 1992 motor it still has wonderful
acceleration............

Yes Baby

"377" <boeing377@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181773510.412883.35900@n15g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
> Happened yesterday. Below is text of two messages I sent to NHTSA on
> their complaint form. Notified AUDI US also, but no reply . I always
> thought these claims were BS and from old drivers who accidentally
> depressed the accelerator pedal when they thought they were pressing
> the brake. It is scary, it is real and it needs to be looked into by
> Audi. I skydive and I have had two main chute malfunctions that
> required cutaways. I have experience in handling emergencies and not
> panicking. I was NOT pressing on the gas pedal. I didnt want to shut
> off the engine with the key until I was stopped as I feared losing
> steering.
>
> I looked on the NHSTA website and there have been a couple of other
> complaints besides mine that were nearly identical. One guy assumed
> like I did that it was a cruise control issue, but it isn't. He is
> probably still driving thinking the problem has been fixed. The second
> incident happened with the cruise fuse pulled.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? The only clue was brake pedal effort seemed to
> increase right before it happened, as if vacuum boost had been lost or
> decreased. All ideas appreciated.
>
> first incident:
>
> RUNAWAY THROTTLE. UNCOMMANDED ENGAGEMENT OF CRUISE CONTROL? WOULD NOT
> RESPOND TO BRAKE OR SHUTTING CRUISE CONTROL OFF ON STEERING COLUMN
> STALK SWITCH. VERY DANGEROUS!!! ALMOST CAUSED A CRASH, VERY
> INEFFECTIVE BRAKING WITH ENGINE TRYING TO KEEP CAR GOING AT ABOUT 55
> MPH, BUT I MANAGED TO PULL OVER AND SHUT CAR OFF. I PULLED THE CRUISE
> CONTROL FUSE AND PROBLEM HAS NOT REAPPEARED.
>
> second incident:
>
> DANGEROUS UNCOMMANDED ACCELERATION. I SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT EARLIER
> TODAY THAT SAID I THOUGHT IT WAS A CRUISE CONTROL PROBLEM BUT IT ISNT.
> IT HAPPENED AGAIN TODAY WITH THE CC FUSE PULLED!!! IT WAS PRECEDED BY
> A FUNNY FEELING IN THE BRAKES, LIKE NOT ENOUGH VACUUM BOOST, THEN
> RADICAL ENGINE ACCELERATION EVEN WITH MY FOOT OFF THE GAS PEDAL. I PUT
> THE CAR IN NEUTRAL, THE TACH REDLINED AND THEN I SHUT OFF THE
> IGNITION. STARTED IT AND IT DID IT AGAIN. I AM AN ENGINEER AND NEVER
> BELIEVED THE STORIES ABOUT AUDIS AND UNINTENDED ACCELERATION... BUT
> NOW I KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN AND IT IS SUPER DANGEROUS!!!!
>

sell now,

clearly stating for a 1992 motor it still has wonderful
acceleration............

Yes Baby

"377" <boeing377@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1181773510.412883.35900@n15g2000prd.googlegro ups.com...
> Happened yesterday. Below is text of two messages I sent to NHTSA on
> their complaint form. Notified AUDI US also, but no reply . I always
> thought these claims were BS and from old drivers who accidentally
> depressed the accelerator pedal when they thought they were pressing
> the brake. It is scary, it is real and it needs to be looked into by
> Audi. I skydive and I have had two main chute malfunctions that
> required cutaways. I have experience in handling emergencies and not
> panicking. I was NOT pressing on the gas pedal. I didnt want to shut
> off the engine with the key until I was stopped as I feared losing
> steering.
>
> I looked on the NHSTA website and there have been a couple of other
> complaints besides mine that were nearly identical. One guy assumed
> like I did that it was a cruise control issue, but it isn't. He is
> probably still driving thinking the problem has been fixed. The second
> incident happened with the cruise fuse pulled.
>
> Anyone have any ideas? The only clue was brake pedal effort seemed to
> increase right before it happened, as if vacuum boost had been lost or
> decreased. All ideas appreciated.
>
> first incident:
>
> RUNAWAY THROTTLE. UNCOMMANDED ENGAGEMENT OF CRUISE CONTROL? WOULD NOT
> RESPOND TO BRAKE OR SHUTTING CRUISE CONTROL OFF ON STEERING COLUMN
> STALK SWITCH. VERY DANGEROUS!!! ALMOST CAUSED A CRASH, VERY
> INEFFECTIVE BRAKING WITH ENGINE TRYING TO KEEP CAR GOING AT ABOUT 55
> MPH, BUT I MANAGED TO PULL OVER AND SHUT CAR OFF. I PULLED THE CRUISE
> CONTROL FUSE AND PROBLEM HAS NOT REAPPEARED.
>
> second incident:
>
> DANGEROUS UNCOMMANDED ACCELERATION. I SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT EARLIER
> TODAY THAT SAID I THOUGHT IT WAS A CRUISE CONTROL PROBLEM BUT IT ISNT.
> IT HAPPENED AGAIN TODAY WITH THE CC FUSE PULLED!!! IT WAS PRECEDED BY
> A FUNNY FEELING IN THE BRAKES, LIKE NOT ENOUGH VACUUM BOOST, THEN
> RADICAL ENGINE ACCELERATION EVEN WITH MY FOOT OFF THE GAS PEDAL. I PUT
> THE CAR IN NEUTRAL, THE TACH REDLINED AND THEN I SHUT OFF THE
> IGNITION. STARTED IT AND IT DID IT AGAIN. I AM AN ENGINEER AND NEVER
> BELIEVED THE STORIES ABOUT AUDIS AND UNINTENDED ACCELERATION... BUT
> NOW I KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN AND IT IS SUPER DANGEROUS!!!!
>

sell now,

clearly stating for a 1992 motor it still has wonderful
acceleration............