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Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:14:07 GMT, "Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote:

>> Your comments don't appear to be grounded in reality. You are either
>> very naive or live in a rural area and are retired and have nowhere to
>> go on a regular basis.
>
>So it's OK to break into your home and steal your TV as long as I don't get
>caught?

I guess you're too stupid to understand the difference between a crime
which hurts others, and a victimless "crime" like the vast majority of
"speeding" is.

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB

>
> I guess you're too stupid to understand the difference between a crime
> which hurts others, and a victimless "crime" like the vast majority of
> "speeding" is.

The vast majority of speeding is indeed victimless, but---------everyone who
speeds and by speeding, I do not mean 5-10 mph over the limit does indeed
increase the risk of danger to those also on the road. I have had my share
of fun with my Porsche over the years. Fun like sliding around corners in
the mountains and trying to see just how fast I could go without losing it.
I have traveled my share of mountain roads in Germany, Austria and
Switzerland and have felt the fear of finding a Porsche, BMW or other fast
ride over the center lane when there are no guard rails on my side. I have
driven the canyons of the USA and know the fear of seeing novice Porsche
drivers sliding around corners toward me. I have seen a BMW driver using a
cell phone pass me at well over a 100mph and have found the same BMW a few
miles down the road in a tree, not against a tree but in the tree after
hitting a tour bus.

You might be a good driver, you might even be a great driver but the truth
is that unwarranted speed not only tests your capabilities as a "home grown"
Michael Schumacher but it tests those on the road who do not aspire to
Formula One status and speed.

Do I like the speed limits? Not always but I can tell you that I adore them
after being forced off the road on some mountain road by someone who thinks
that speed limits are for dummies. Do I like speed limits on the super
highways which are often straight and wide? Not always but I have found
that many who think they are wonderful drivers are an accident waiting to
happen and I for one do not wish to be involved in that accident.

Mel

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB

"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:dub3n0p7oo4sg0mi40dkruqlqtl1r82898@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:14:07 GMT, "Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote:
>
>>> Your comments don't appear to be grounded in reality. You are either
>>> very naive or live in a rural area and are retired and have nowhere to
>>> go on a regular basis.
>>
>>So it's OK to break into your home and steal your TV as long as I don't
>>get
>>caught?
>
> I guess you're too stupid to understand the difference between a crime
> which hurts others, and a victimless "crime" like the vast majority of
> "speeding" is.

Breaking in to homes to steal things is a no no. Speeding is also a no no if
you are constantly speeding, passing others, etc. My original post had to do
with using a radar detector to warn of speed traps on the highways where I
live, on which the speed of ALL vehicles on the road, right lane too, is
ALWAYS 10 to 20 kph above the speed limit. For all intents and purposes you
CANNOT go the speed limit without impeding traffic flow or causing just
about everyone to try and pass you.

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB

<<Are you a little sick of being told that you ought to be ashamed, as an
American, because the French don't respect us?>>

What an idiot. It's not just the French who are disgusted with Americans and
the American President. 50 yrs of respect and global good will have been
destroyed in less than 4. I'm not ashamed. I'm angry and I'm voting.

C.

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB

TigerRace1 <tigerrace1@aol.com> wrote:

> <<Are you a little sick of being told that you ought to be ashamed, as an
> American, because the French don't respect us?>>
>
> What an idiot. It's not just the French who are disgusted with Americans and
> the American President.

And the real question that should be asked is: "Why? Could there be any
reasons for that?"

--
J.C.

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB

avoiding photo radar -Photo blocker spray technical questions

In article <nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net>,
Rich Williamson <nothere@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
>
> http://phantomplate.com/main.html
>
> I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
> entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
> photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
> the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
> good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
> readable.
>
> I asked the company tech guy about it (and sent him the photos), and his
> reply was that a flash on a home digital camera is only intended for
> 10-15 feet, and that the flash used in photo radar is 10X stronger and
> brighter...therefore it would reflect using that type of flash.
>
> I am not sure if I believe this or not...while it may make sense in
> theory,I don't really want to test it in the real world. How about
> daytime traffic light or photoradar...wouldn't that need a lower flash
> level? Does the equipment adjust for ambient light?
>
> I am tempted to respray and add more product, but don't know if this
> helps or hurts the performance. It does dull the plate, and it looks
> like it is starting to build up. I put 5 or 6 coats on the plate (two
> separate plates 6 each).
>
> The Photoshield cover works as advertised... the only negative comment I
> would have is that it is not as "undetectable" as stated. You can see
> that there is something "distorting" the plate if you got out of your
> car beheind me, and were walking up to my car (as a cop would do at a
> traffic stop).
>
> I am unsure if it is truly legal (the plate cover)... while it may be
> technically legal, it might get you hassled for using it.
>
> I welcome any comments or advice from people who have used it or know
> more about traffic light or stationary photo radar.
>
> thanks,
>
> Rich

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Here is the company response unedited ... any thoughts on what he says?

From: "DavidGreen@phantomplate.com" <davidgreen@phantomplate.com>
Subject: RE: problem with spray
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 18:18:40 -0400

Dear: Mr. Williamson

First and foremost, I sincerely apologize for the length it took to
respond
to this e-mail.

If you decide to take a flash photo of you license plate after it has
been
treated, don't be surprised if the plate numbers are still visible. That
doesn't mean that it won't work. You see a standard camera flash is only
a
few watts. The speed camera is setup with a 340watt "melt your eye balls"
flash unit which isn't designed to read the number plate, but designed to
pick out your face inside a dark vehicle interior. A standard camera
flash
sometimes isn't powerful enough to produce a "white out" effect. The
correct
way to test the effectiveness of our products is to use actual
photo-radar
equipment. . A personal digital camera is not a photo radar camera.
First of
all, the car has to be in motion. I don't know how you will be able to
take
an image using you personal camera. Besides, the flash technology used
will
not be comparable. The correct way to test the PhotoBlocker spray is
using a
photo radar camera. That is exactly what Fox News investigative reporters
and Denver City Police Department did. As a result PHOTOBLOCKER has
become
the best selling anti-photo radar spray product in the world. To watch
the
actual investigated reports please go to
http://www.phantomplate.com/video.html.

Sincerely
DAVID GREEN