Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:

http://phantomplate.com/main.html

I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
readable.

I asked the company tech guy about it (and sent him the photos), and his
reply was that a flash on a home digital camera is only intended for
10-15 feet, and that the flash used in photo radar is 10X stronger and
brighter...therefore it would reflect using that type of flash.

I am not sure if I believe this or not...while it may make sense in
theory,I don't really want to test it in the real world. How about
daytime traffic light or photoradar...wouldn't that need a lower flash
level? Does the equipment adjust for ambient light?

I am tempted to respray and add more product, but don't know if this
helps or hurts the performance. It does dull the plate, and it looks
like it is starting to build up. I put 5 or 6 coats on the plate (two
separate plates 6 each).

The Photoshield cover works as advertised... the only negative comment I
would have is that it is not as "undetectable" as stated. You can see
that there is something "distorting" the plate if you got out of your
car beheind me, and were walking up to my car (as a cop would do at a
traffic stop).

I am unsure if it is truly legal (the plate cover)... while it may be
technically legal, it might get you hassled for using it.

I welcome any comments or advice from people who have used it or know
more about traffic light or stationary photo radar.

thanks,

Rich

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

"Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
>
>
> Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
>
> http://phantomplate.com/main.html
>
> I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
> entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
> photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
> the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
> good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
> readable.

Why not just drive the speed limit like you are supposed to and stop trying
to rob liquor stores?

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

"Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
>
>
> Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
>
> http://phantomplate.com/main.html
>
> I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
> entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
> photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
> the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
> good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
> readable.

Why not just drive the speed limit like you are supposed to and stop trying
to rob liquor stores?

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

"Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote in message
news:CA_ad.89774$a41.84778@pd7tw2no...
>
> "Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
>>
>> http://phantomplate.com/main.html
>>
>> I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
>> entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
>> photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
>> the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
>> good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
>> readable.

That is the way it's supposed to work (at least with other products). The
plate remains visible and therefore "legal" when looked at straight on.
Moving off axis obscures the plate, which is what one would expect from a
photo radar or intersection camera, which has to be off the center, or at
least angled down from overhead.
>
> Why not just drive the speed limit like you are supposed to and stop
> trying
> to rob liquor stores?

Why don't you post answers to questions instead of adding your own (stupid)
comments. I don't use anything like this for my plates, but I do use a
radar/laser detector to protect myself from speeding tickets. On our
highways EVERYONE is driving 10-29 KPH over the limit. If I drove the speed
limit even in the right hand lane, little old ladies in 1980's Caddy's would
be passing me and giving me the finger.

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

"Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote in message
news:CA_ad.89774$a41.84778@pd7tw2no...
>
> "Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
>>
>> http://phantomplate.com/main.html
>>
>> I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
>> entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
>> photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
>> the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
>> good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
>> readable.

That is the way it's supposed to work (at least with other products). The
plate remains visible and therefore "legal" when looked at straight on.
Moving off axis obscures the plate, which is what one would expect from a
photo radar or intersection camera, which has to be off the center, or at
least angled down from overhead.
>
> Why not just drive the speed limit like you are supposed to and stop
> trying
> to rob liquor stores?

Why don't you post answers to questions instead of adding your own (stupid)
comments. I don't use anything like this for my plates, but I do use a
radar/laser detector to protect myself from speeding tickets. On our
highways EVERYONE is driving 10-29 KPH over the limit. If I drove the speed
limit even in the right hand lane, little old ladies in 1980's Caddy's would
be passing me and giving me the finger.

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

From the website it looks like you are in US/CA. In the UK modifying with
the number plate is illegal. However, amazing how many muddy plates there
were when the congestion charge -- enforced through cameras -- was
introduced in London.

DAS
--
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
---

"Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
>
>
> Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
>
> http://phantomplate.com/main.html
>
> I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
> entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
> photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
> the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
> good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
> readable.
>
> I asked the company tech guy about it (and sent him the photos), and his
> reply was that a flash on a home digital camera is only intended for
> 10-15 feet, and that the flash used in photo radar is 10X stronger and
> brighter...therefore it would reflect using that type of flash.
>
> I am not sure if I believe this or not...while it may make sense in
> theory,I don't really want to test it in the real world. How about
> daytime traffic light or photoradar...wouldn't that need a lower flash
> level? Does the equipment adjust for ambient light?
>
> I am tempted to respray and add more product, but don't know if this
> helps or hurts the performance. It does dull the plate, and it looks
> like it is starting to build up. I put 5 or 6 coats on the plate (two
> separate plates 6 each).
>
> The Photoshield cover works as advertised... the only negative comment I
> would have is that it is not as "undetectable" as stated. You can see
> that there is something "distorting" the plate if you got out of your
> car beheind me, and were walking up to my car (as a cop would do at a
> traffic stop).
>
> I am unsure if it is truly legal (the plate cover)... while it may be
> technically legal, it might get you hassled for using it.
>
> I welcome any comments or advice from people who have used it or know
> more about traffic light or stationary photo radar.
>
> thanks,
>
> Rich

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

From the website it looks like you are in US/CA. In the UK modifying with
the number plate is illegal. However, amazing how many muddy plates there
were when the congestion charge -- enforced through cameras -- was
introduced in London.

DAS
--
For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling
---

"Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
>
>
> Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
>
> http://phantomplate.com/main.html
>
> I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
> entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
> photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
> the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
> good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
> readable.
>
> I asked the company tech guy about it (and sent him the photos), and his
> reply was that a flash on a home digital camera is only intended for
> 10-15 feet, and that the flash used in photo radar is 10X stronger and
> brighter...therefore it would reflect using that type of flash.
>
> I am not sure if I believe this or not...while it may make sense in
> theory,I don't really want to test it in the real world. How about
> daytime traffic light or photoradar...wouldn't that need a lower flash
> level? Does the equipment adjust for ambient light?
>
> I am tempted to respray and add more product, but don't know if this
> helps or hurts the performance. It does dull the plate, and it looks
> like it is starting to build up. I put 5 or 6 coats on the plate (two
> separate plates 6 each).
>
> The Photoshield cover works as advertised... the only negative comment I
> would have is that it is not as "undetectable" as stated. You can see
> that there is something "distorting" the plate if you got out of your
> car beheind me, and were walking up to my car (as a cop would do at a
> traffic stop).
>
> I am unsure if it is truly legal (the plate cover)... while it may be
> technically legal, it might get you hassled for using it.
>
> I welcome any comments or advice from people who have used it or know
> more about traffic light or stationary photo radar.
>
> thanks,
>
> Rich

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

In article <CA_ad.89774$a41.84778@pd7tw2no>,
"Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote:

> "Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
> >
> > http://phantomplate.com/main.html
> >
> > I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
> > entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
> > photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
> > the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
> > good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
> > readable.
>
> Why not just drive the speed limit like you are supposed to and stop trying
> to rob liquor stores?

You are kidding right....

Traffic here in the Philly area goes 65 in the right lane, 70 in the
middle lane, and 80 plus in the left one. All this in a 55mph zone.

Nobody ever goes the speed limit here...it is simply a joke. It is an
odds thing...if you drive more often, you are more likely to get stopped.

I see nothing wrong with going 70mph on a clear stretch of turnpike or
open highway in my Mercedes. The car is built to handle speeds far
faster than this. It is perfectly safe as long as there are no lights,
side streets, or animals (not an issue on our highways here. If you
don't have to weave or ride up on other people why not ride faster...?

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

In article <CA_ad.89774$a41.84778@pd7tw2no>,
"Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote:

> "Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
> >
> > http://phantomplate.com/main.html
> >
> > I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
> > entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
> > photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
> > the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
> > good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
> > readable.
>
> Why not just drive the speed limit like you are supposed to and stop trying
> to rob liquor stores?

You are kidding right....

Traffic here in the Philly area goes 65 in the right lane, 70 in the
middle lane, and 80 plus in the left one. All this in a 55mph zone.

Nobody ever goes the speed limit here...it is simply a joke. It is an
odds thing...if you drive more often, you are more likely to get stopped.

I see nothing wrong with going 70mph on a clear stretch of turnpike or
open highway in my Mercedes. The car is built to handle speeds far
faster than this. It is perfectly safe as long as there are no lights,
side streets, or animals (not an issue on our highways here. If you
don't have to weave or ride up on other people why not ride faster...?

Re: "stealth" radar installation-MB
 

In article <0z5bd.15963$NC6.6481@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.ver io.net>,
"tech27" <tech27@mail.anonymizer.com> wrote:

> "Noozer" <dontspam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:CA_ad.89774$a41.84778@pd7tw2no...
> >
> > "Rich Williamson" <nothere@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:nothere-ECB9F0.14235912102004@news.verizon.net...
> >>
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any feedback on the products found at:
> >>
> >> http://phantomplate.com/main.html
> >>
> >> I purchased their spray and the plate shield (Photoshield). I am not
> >> entirely convinced that the spray works. I took some digital flash
> >> photos of my car at night in the driveway. I found that at an angle,
> >> the spray worked and obscured my plate. Straight on, it was not so
> >> good... it gave only a partial or little reflection leaving my plate
> >> readable.
>
> That is the way it's supposed to work (at least with other products). The
> plate remains visible and therefore "legal" when looked at straight on.
> Moving off axis obscures the plate, which is what one would expect from a
> photo radar or intersection camera, which has to be off the center, or at
> least angled down from overhead.

Thats the photoshield...

The spray is the product I have the main question on...it is the product
that is supposed to reflect flash photo tickets.

> >
> > Why not just drive the speed limit like you are supposed to and stop
> > trying
> > to rob liquor stores?
>
> Why don't you post answers to questions instead of adding your own (stupid)
> comments. I don't use anything like this for my plates, but I do use a
> radar/laser detector to protect myself from speeding tickets. On our
> highways EVERYONE is driving 10-29 KPH over the limit. If I drove the speed
> limit even in the right hand lane, little old ladies in 1980's Caddy's would
> be passing me and giving me the finger.