Sound System
#51
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Re: Sound System
"SteveH" wrote
> Well, speaking as what you'd call an 'audiophile', the OEM setup in B5
> chassis VAGs is pretty damned good.
Forgot to add, the front speakers in the Passat (and Jetta too) are
bigger (5.25" or 6.5" even). A4 has 4" speakers up front which are a
joke.
Pete
#52
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Re: Sound System
"SteveH" wrote
> Well, speaking as what you'd call an 'audiophile', the OEM setup in B5
> chassis VAGs is pretty damned good.
Forgot to add, the front speakers in the Passat (and Jetta too) are
bigger (5.25" or 6.5" even). A4 has 4" speakers up front which are a
joke.
Pete
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Re: Sound System
I've got the Concert head unit, coupled with BOSE. Well, if that's pretty
damned good, then I must be looking pretty damn close to Mr Universe!
The bass speakers are the crappiest I've ever seen/heard in just any car
that would like to boast about sound. Not only are they clearly lacking in
power - both loudspeakers and amp at fault here, but they also deteriorate
in exactly two summer seasons - the paper is burnt out of its supple
properties by the sun. The rest of speakers and head unit output distortion
are only just acceptable.
The BOSE A3s on the other hand have some extra 100 Watt bass power - boot
subwoofer, which is exactly what the A4 stock BOSE would need in order for
it to be addressed as remotely acceptable by someone moderately exacting
like me.
>
> Well, speaking as what you'd call an 'audiophile', the OEM setup in B5
> chassis VAGs is pretty damned good. #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
damned good, then I must be looking pretty damn close to Mr Universe!
The bass speakers are the crappiest I've ever seen/heard in just any car
that would like to boast about sound. Not only are they clearly lacking in
power - both loudspeakers and amp at fault here, but they also deteriorate
in exactly two summer seasons - the paper is burnt out of its supple
properties by the sun. The rest of speakers and head unit output distortion
are only just acceptable.
The BOSE A3s on the other hand have some extra 100 Watt bass power - boot
subwoofer, which is exactly what the A4 stock BOSE would need in order for
it to be addressed as remotely acceptable by someone moderately exacting
like me.
>
> Well, speaking as what you'd call an 'audiophile', the OEM setup in B5
> chassis VAGs is pretty damned good. #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
#54
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Re: Sound System
I've got the Concert head unit, coupled with BOSE. Well, if that's pretty
damned good, then I must be looking pretty damn close to Mr Universe!
The bass speakers are the crappiest I've ever seen/heard in just any car
that would like to boast about sound. Not only are they clearly lacking in
power - both loudspeakers and amp at fault here, but they also deteriorate
in exactly two summer seasons - the paper is burnt out of its supple
properties by the sun. The rest of speakers and head unit output distortion
are only just acceptable.
The BOSE A3s on the other hand have some extra 100 Watt bass power - boot
subwoofer, which is exactly what the A4 stock BOSE would need in order for
it to be addressed as remotely acceptable by someone moderately exacting
like me.
>
> Well, speaking as what you'd call an 'audiophile', the OEM setup in B5
> chassis VAGs is pretty damned good. #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
damned good, then I must be looking pretty damn close to Mr Universe!
The bass speakers are the crappiest I've ever seen/heard in just any car
that would like to boast about sound. Not only are they clearly lacking in
power - both loudspeakers and amp at fault here, but they also deteriorate
in exactly two summer seasons - the paper is burnt out of its supple
properties by the sun. The rest of speakers and head unit output distortion
are only just acceptable.
The BOSE A3s on the other hand have some extra 100 Watt bass power - boot
subwoofer, which is exactly what the A4 stock BOSE would need in order for
it to be addressed as remotely acceptable by someone moderately exacting
like me.
>
> Well, speaking as what you'd call an 'audiophile', the OEM setup in B5
> chassis VAGs is pretty damned good. #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
#55
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Re: Sound System
I've got the Concert head unit, coupled with BOSE. Well, if that's pretty
damned good, then I must be looking pretty damn close to Mr Universe!
The bass speakers are the crappiest I've ever seen/heard in just any car
that would like to boast about sound. Not only are they clearly lacking in
power - both loudspeakers and amp at fault here, but they also deteriorate
in exactly two summer seasons - the paper is burnt out of its supple
properties by the sun. The rest of speakers and head unit output distortion
are only just acceptable.
The BOSE A3s on the other hand have some extra 100 Watt bass power - boot
subwoofer, which is exactly what the A4 stock BOSE would need in order for
it to be addressed as remotely acceptable by someone moderately exacting
like me.
>
> Well, speaking as what you'd call an 'audiophile', the OEM setup in B5
> chassis VAGs is pretty damned good. #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
damned good, then I must be looking pretty damn close to Mr Universe!
The bass speakers are the crappiest I've ever seen/heard in just any car
that would like to boast about sound. Not only are they clearly lacking in
power - both loudspeakers and amp at fault here, but they also deteriorate
in exactly two summer seasons - the paper is burnt out of its supple
properties by the sun. The rest of speakers and head unit output distortion
are only just acceptable.
The BOSE A3s on the other hand have some extra 100 Watt bass power - boot
subwoofer, which is exactly what the A4 stock BOSE would need in order for
it to be addressed as remotely acceptable by someone moderately exacting
like me.
>
> Well, speaking as what you'd call an 'audiophile', the OEM setup in B5
> chassis VAGs is pretty damned good. #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
#56
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Re: Sound System
JP Roberts wrote:
> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this means
> is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going to get
> half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
will produce the same volume out of either.
--
Mike Smith
> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this means
> is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going to get
> half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
will produce the same volume out of either.
--
Mike Smith
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Re: Sound System
JP Roberts wrote:
> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this means
> is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going to get
> half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
will produce the same volume out of either.
--
Mike Smith
> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this means
> is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going to get
> half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
will produce the same volume out of either.
--
Mike Smith
#58
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Re: Sound System
JP Roberts wrote:
> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this means
> is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going to get
> half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
will produce the same volume out of either.
--
Mike Smith
> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this means
> is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going to get
> half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
will produce the same volume out of either.
--
Mike Smith
#59
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Re: Sound System
You're talking from the realm of theoretical bla bla bla, I'm describing
real life. What happens in reality is what I said. If you don't believe me,
why don't you just get some hands on and try it yourself with a real BOSE
Audi system?
Then, and only then, are you in a position to discuss this.
"Mike Smith" <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> escribió en el mensaje
news:11b129df8svro3b@news.supernews.com...
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this
>> means is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going
>> to get half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
>
> Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
> amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
> produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
> two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
> rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
> will produce the same volume out of either.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
real life. What happens in reality is what I said. If you don't believe me,
why don't you just get some hands on and try it yourself with a real BOSE
Audi system?
Then, and only then, are you in a position to discuss this.
"Mike Smith" <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> escribió en el mensaje
news:11b129df8svro3b@news.supernews.com...
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this
>> means is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going
>> to get half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
>
> Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
> amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
> produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
> two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
> rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
> will produce the same volume out of either.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
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Re: Sound System
You're talking from the realm of theoretical bla bla bla, I'm describing
real life. What happens in reality is what I said. If you don't believe me,
why don't you just get some hands on and try it yourself with a real BOSE
Audi system?
Then, and only then, are you in a position to discuss this.
"Mike Smith" <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> escribió en el mensaje
news:11b129df8svro3b@news.supernews.com...
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this
>> means is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going
>> to get half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
>
> Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
> amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
> produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
> two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
> rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
> will produce the same volume out of either.
>
> --
> Mike Smith
real life. What happens in reality is what I said. If you don't believe me,
why don't you just get some hands on and try it yourself with a real BOSE
Audi system?
Then, and only then, are you in a position to discuss this.
"Mike Smith" <mikeUNDERSCOREsmith@acm.org> escribió en el mensaje
news:11b129df8svro3b@news.supernews.com...
> JP Roberts wrote:
>> Obviously talking about input impedance. In practical terms what this
>> means is that if you fit a pair of 4 Ohm speakers, you're only just going
>> to get half the desired output (read volume), which is a real pain.
>
> Not true. Higher-impedance loads are easier to drive for a solid-state
> amp, not harder. Speaker efficiency is measured as the sound level
> produced for a 2.83-volt input (a so-called "8-ohm watt"). If you have
> two speakers, one (nominally) 4-ohm and one (nominally) 8-ohm, that are
> rated with the same efficiency, then an amp driving a given signal level
> will produce the same volume out of either.
>
> --
> Mike Smith