Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
04-04-2005, 08:40 AM
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Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to park
by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right wheels
onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro would
have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the car
was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough clearance
all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
try to find a more traditional parking space.
I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in his
02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were telling
me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they got
the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept spinning
to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two sides
of the car alongside.
I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had been
the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro and
the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to understand
why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
JP Roberts
car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to park
by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right wheels
onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro would
have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the car
was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough clearance
all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
try to find a more traditional parking space.
I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in his
02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were telling
me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they got
the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept spinning
to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two sides
of the car alongside.
I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had been
the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro and
the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to understand
why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
JP Roberts
04-04-2005, 09:35 AM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
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Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
04-04-2005, 09:35 AM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
snip
Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
04-04-2005, 09:35 AM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
snip
Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
04-04-2005, 10:28 AM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:35:49 -0400, "TaskMule" <unavailable@thistime.net>
wrote:
>
>"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d2rg3i$6us$1@news.ya.com...
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
>snip
>
>Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
"If you don't like the answers, keep posting the question"
wrote:
>
>"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d2rg3i$6us$1@news.ya.com...
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
>snip
>
>Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
"If you don't like the answers, keep posting the question"
04-04-2005, 10:28 AM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:35:49 -0400, "TaskMule" <unavailable@thistime.net>
wrote:
>
>"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d2rg3i$6us$1@news.ya.com...
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
>snip
>
>Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
"If you don't like the answers, keep posting the question"
wrote:
>
>"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d2rg3i$6us$1@news.ya.com...
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
>snip
>
>Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
"If you don't like the answers, keep posting the question"
04-04-2005, 10:28 AM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:35:49 -0400, "TaskMule" <unavailable@thistime.net>
wrote:
>
>"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d2rg3i$6us$1@news.ya.com...
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
>snip
>
>Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
"If you don't like the answers, keep posting the question"
wrote:
>
>"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:d2rg3i$6us$1@news.ya.com...
>> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
>> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to
>park
>> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep)
>snip
>
>Umm, didn't you post this same message a few days ago?
"If you don't like the answers, keep posting the question"
04-04-2005, 01:49 PM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
And you're still surprised?
JP Roberts wrote:
> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right wheels
> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro would
> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the car
> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough clearance
> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>
> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in his
> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were telling
> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they got
> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept spinning
> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>
> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two sides
> of the car alongside.
>
> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had been
> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro and
> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to understand
> why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>
> JP Roberts
>
>
>
>
And you're still surprised?
JP Roberts wrote:
> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right wheels
> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro would
> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the car
> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough clearance
> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>
> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in his
> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were telling
> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they got
> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept spinning
> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>
> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two sides
> of the car alongside.
>
> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had been
> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro and
> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to understand
> why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>
> JP Roberts
>
>
>
>
04-04-2005, 01:49 PM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
And you're still surprised?
JP Roberts wrote:
> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right wheels
> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro would
> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the car
> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough clearance
> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>
> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in his
> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were telling
> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they got
> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept spinning
> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>
> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two sides
> of the car alongside.
>
> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had been
> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro and
> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to understand
> why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>
> JP Roberts
>
>
>
>
And you're still surprised?
JP Roberts wrote:
> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right wheels
> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro would
> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the car
> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough clearance
> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>
> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in his
> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were telling
> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they got
> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept spinning
> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>
> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two sides
> of the car alongside.
>
> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had been
> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro and
> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to understand
> why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>
> JP Roberts
>
>
>
>
04-04-2005, 01:49 PM
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Re: Quattro not working as advertised - Anyone else experienced this?
Yeah, I read the exact same thing happened to you before too.
And you're still surprised?
JP Roberts wrote:
> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right wheels
> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro would
> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the car
> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough clearance
> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>
> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in his
> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were telling
> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they got
> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept spinning
> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>
> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two sides
> of the car alongside.
>
> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had been
> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro and
> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to understand
> why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>
> JP Roberts
>
>
>
>
And you're still surprised?
JP Roberts wrote:
> It so happened that as I got to the restaurant of my choice yesterday the
> car park was full and so I decided I would make full use of Quattro to park
> by driving up onto a slope (about 12% steep) with only the two right wheels
> onto a grass fringe (wet with hail from a recent storm) while keeping the
> two left wheels on the road's tarmac. I was pretty confident Quattro would
> have no problem in driving up along the fringe for about 4 m so that the car
> was out of anyone's way. Well, I was totally disappointed to get a bitter
> taste of the old days when we used to get stuck without Quattro. Still
> refusing to believe this, I got out to check that there was enough clearance
> all the way up and there certainly was. Then I made sure the car did not
> nosedive into the fringe. Everything was OK but the car still refused to
> start off uphill. My only resort was to shily reverse onto the tarmac and
> try to find a more traditional parking space.
>
> I was taken aback in such a way that on coming out of the family reunion
> meal I asked both my father in his A6 2.5TDI Q and my brother-in-law in his
> 02 A4 1.8T Q (on winter tyres) to try the experiment, as they were telling
> me it must have been a case of my EDL not working properly. Well, they got
> the same identic result: the front right and rear right wheels kept spinning
> to no avail while the other two did not move an inch.
>
> My conclusion is that while Torsen works flawlessly, EDL (Electronic
> Differential Lock) is no less than a big fiasco, at least when there is a
> big difference in terms of surface friction coeficient between the two sides
> of the car alongside.
>
> I remember reading once that Jeep's Quadradrive and BMWs x systems had been
> the only ones to pass a certain traction test on rollers, while Quattro and
> the rest had failed, but I refused to believe this. Now I fail to understand
> why EDL does not work properly under those circumstances.
>
> JP Roberts
>
>
>
>
