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"Rolls Royce, a triumph of craftsmanship over engineering"

 

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"Rolls Royce, a triumph of craftsmanship over engineering"

 

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"Rolls Royce, a triumph of craftsmanship over engineering"

 

<gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Cupholders are a sop to the American market, and more to the American
> motoring press.
>
> They gripe when they don't have a place to put their 2-liter bottles of
> Pepsi for the long drive. Frankly, I've never understood why cars need
> cupholders. None of the cars I drove growing up had them, and I never
> felt the need. My current Audis don't mave much in the way of
> cupholders, and I still don't miss them. I'm not going to die of
> thirst if I don't drink something for a couple of hours anyway.
>

Having just returned from a trip which included nearly 1,000 miles of
prairie and desert driving with temperatures exceeding 105o F and humidity
levels in the 10% range, I'd say you really don't know what you are talking
about. One can seriously dehydrate in as little as 20 minutes under these
conditions. Although admittedly somewhat flimsy, my BMW Z4's cupholders kept
our liter bottles of water cool (right in front of an A/C outlet) and
convenient - as I really don't like searching under my seat for water while
driving at 75 mph. And they are designed to completely retract into the
dash when not needed.

Maybe you should travel in the U.S. before making assumptions about the
habits of American drivers.

Tom K.

 

<gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123170804.780601.262080@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
> Cupholders are a sop to the American market, and more to the American
> motoring press.
>
> They gripe when they don't have a place to put their 2-liter bottles of
> Pepsi for the long drive. Frankly, I've never understood why cars need
> cupholders. None of the cars I drove growing up had them, and I never
> felt the need. My current Audis don't mave much in the way of
> cupholders, and I still don't miss them. I'm not going to die of
> thirst if I don't drink something for a couple of hours anyway.
>

Having just returned from a trip which included nearly 1,000 miles of
prairie and desert driving with temperatures exceeding 105o F and humidity
levels in the 10% range, I'd say you really don't know what you are talking
about. One can seriously dehydrate in as little as 20 minutes under these
conditions. Although admittedly somewhat flimsy, my BMW Z4's cupholders kept
our liter bottles of water cool (right in front of an A/C outlet) and
convenient - as I really don't like searching under my seat for water while
driving at 75 mph. And they are designed to completely retract into the
dash when not needed.

Maybe you should travel in the U.S. before making assumptions about the
habits of American drivers.

Tom K.

 

<gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1123170804.780601.262080@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
> Cupholders are a sop to the American market, and more to the American
> motoring press.
>
> They gripe when they don't have a place to put their 2-liter bottles of
> Pepsi for the long drive. Frankly, I've never understood why cars need
> cupholders. None of the cars I drove growing up had them, and I never
> felt the need. My current Audis don't mave much in the way of
> cupholders, and I still don't miss them. I'm not going to die of
> thirst if I don't drink something for a couple of hours anyway.
>

Having just returned from a trip which included nearly 1,000 miles of
prairie and desert driving with temperatures exceeding 105o F and humidity
levels in the 10% range, I'd say you really don't know what you are talking
about. One can seriously dehydrate in as little as 20 minutes under these
conditions. Although admittedly somewhat flimsy, my BMW Z4's cupholders kept
our liter bottles of water cool (right in front of an A/C outlet) and
convenient - as I really don't like searching under my seat for water while
driving at 75 mph. And they are designed to completely retract into the
dash when not needed.

Maybe you should travel in the U.S. before making assumptions about the
habits of American drivers.

Tom K.

 

Tom K. wrote:
> <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1123170804.780601.262080@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >
> > Cupholders are a sop to the American market, and more to the American
> > motoring press.
> >
> > They gripe when they don't have a place to put their 2-liter bottles of
> > Pepsi for the long drive. Frankly, I've never understood why cars need
> > cupholders. None of the cars I drove growing up had them, and I never
> > felt the need. My current Audis don't mave much in the way of
> > cupholders, and I still don't miss them. I'm not going to die of
> > thirst if I don't drink something for a couple of hours anyway.
> >
>
> Having just returned from a trip which included nearly 1,000 miles of
> prairie and desert driving with temperatures exceeding 105o F and humidity
> levels in the 10% range, I'd say you really don't know what you are talking
> about.

My wife and I did the Grand Tour of the SW National Parks in one of our
current Audis. In July. So I guess I really *do* know what I'm
talking about.

Yeah, the temps and humidities were like that. Funny, we didn't need
cupholders. And, again, we weren't running the AC about half the time.
Neither one of us died of thirst, and we didn't need to have drinks
right at the ready between fuel stops.

> One can seriously dehydrate in as little as 20 minutes under these
> conditions.

Sure you can. That's why all those people die in their cars while
driving through the desert.

LOL.

> Maybe you should travel in the U.S. before making assumptions about the
> habits of American drivers.

Maybe you should shut the hell up before making assumptions about
usenet posters.

E.P.

 

Tom K. wrote:
> <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1123170804.780601.262080@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >
> > Cupholders are a sop to the American market, and more to the American
> > motoring press.
> >
> > They gripe when they don't have a place to put their 2-liter bottles of
> > Pepsi for the long drive. Frankly, I've never understood why cars need
> > cupholders. None of the cars I drove growing up had them, and I never
> > felt the need. My current Audis don't mave much in the way of
> > cupholders, and I still don't miss them. I'm not going to die of
> > thirst if I don't drink something for a couple of hours anyway.
> >
>
> Having just returned from a trip which included nearly 1,000 miles of
> prairie and desert driving with temperatures exceeding 105o F and humidity
> levels in the 10% range, I'd say you really don't know what you are talking
> about.

My wife and I did the Grand Tour of the SW National Parks in one of our
current Audis. In July. So I guess I really *do* know what I'm
talking about.

Yeah, the temps and humidities were like that. Funny, we didn't need
cupholders. And, again, we weren't running the AC about half the time.
Neither one of us died of thirst, and we didn't need to have drinks
right at the ready between fuel stops.

> One can seriously dehydrate in as little as 20 minutes under these
> conditions.

Sure you can. That's why all those people die in their cars while
driving through the desert.

LOL.

> Maybe you should travel in the U.S. before making assumptions about the
> habits of American drivers.

Maybe you should shut the hell up before making assumptions about
usenet posters.

E.P.

 

Tom K. wrote:
> <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1123170804.780601.262080@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >
> > Cupholders are a sop to the American market, and more to the American
> > motoring press.
> >
> > They gripe when they don't have a place to put their 2-liter bottles of
> > Pepsi for the long drive. Frankly, I've never understood why cars need
> > cupholders. None of the cars I drove growing up had them, and I never
> > felt the need. My current Audis don't mave much in the way of
> > cupholders, and I still don't miss them. I'm not going to die of
> > thirst if I don't drink something for a couple of hours anyway.
> >
>
> Having just returned from a trip which included nearly 1,000 miles of
> prairie and desert driving with temperatures exceeding 105o F and humidity
> levels in the 10% range, I'd say you really don't know what you are talking
> about.

My wife and I did the Grand Tour of the SW National Parks in one of our
current Audis. In July. So I guess I really *do* know what I'm
talking about.

Yeah, the temps and humidities were like that. Funny, we didn't need
cupholders. And, again, we weren't running the AC about half the time.
Neither one of us died of thirst, and we didn't need to have drinks
right at the ready between fuel stops.

> One can seriously dehydrate in as little as 20 minutes under these
> conditions.

Sure you can. That's why all those people die in their cars while
driving through the desert.

LOL.

> Maybe you should travel in the U.S. before making assumptions about the
> habits of American drivers.

Maybe you should shut the hell up before making assumptions about
usenet posters.

E.P.

 

The message <1123170804.780601.262080@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>
from gcmschemist@gmail.com contains these words:

> Cupholders are not necessary items. If they are flimsy, plastic and
> crappy,

We had a couple of Transits with 'em. In the end I removed 'em 'cos the
users did nothing but complain about how they were broken.

The other complaint was "It uses a lot of fuel". Well, if you're doing a
steady 80mph down the motorway in a coachbuilt Transit with 14 grannies,
all their wheelchairs and the weight of a tail-lift bringing up the rear
it will.

--
Skipweasel.
Ivor Cutler - "Never knowingly understood."