Art M

So their diagnosis:

"Oil lamp coming on. Performed oil pressure test. Veh had sufficient PSI.
Ran veh & found oil level sensor inop intermit after veh gets hot. Replaced
oil level sensor & changed oil. Oil was dirty & need replacing along with
new filter." (Mileage: 39937)

Oil had been changed 1900 miles / 2 weeks before. A malfunctioning sensor
seems inconsistent with what happened as described in the quoted text below.
They didn't do anything to clean the engine.

They want me to come back in 2,000 miles for my 40K service and another oil
change.

Sounds like the run around to me.


Records indicate the following related to oil (Audi dealer service except
where noted):

11610 miles --- 10K service (oil change)18769 miles --- Audi service but no
oil change

24081 miles --- 20K service (oil change, 12471 miles since last) OIL PUMP
CHANGED
Oil light had come on

(2004 Aug - AUDI Oil sludge letter)

34535 miles --- 30K service (oil change, 10454 miles since last)
Oil light had come on

38081 miles --- I changed oil
Oil light had come on

39940 miles --- Oil change. Replaced oil level sensor
Oil light had come on

Any more advice?

Angry customer,
--Art


"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:lJ0pe.28403$iU.1074@lakeread05...
> (Oil level is correct)
>
> I recently bought an A4 B6 1.8T Q with 36k miles. I have put on about 2500
> more.
>
> The oil light 1st came on after driving for about 5 hours with only 1 or 2
> short stops. I was going about 80-85 mph when it came on. I pulled over
> and the level was about in the middle of the hashes. I topped it off with
> oil that was in the trunk from the previous owner (it wasn't synthetic)
> and started driving and it came on within a few minutes. I stopped again
> and waited a few minutes and then drove another 1.5 hrs at a slower speed
> with no problems.
>
> I then changed the oil myself replacing the Audi filter with another one
> from the dealer and filled it with mobile1 5W30 (even though the service
> notice on the dash says it's not due for more than 200 days and over 6000
> miles). No problems on the return trip and a couple of shorter trips, but
> then this weekend it came on again after driving about 5.5 hrs. This time
> I was in the mountains at 50 - 60 mph and it would come on for a few
> seconds at a time, only when the engine was straining to get up hills.
>
> The engine doesn't seem to be burning any oil.
>
> When I was buying the car I think the previous owner said he had had the
> oil pump replaced (I have a terrible memory). I don't know why that didn't
> raise any alarms in me, but he is a friend so I wasn't in skeptic mode.
>
> I wish I had removed the oil cap and peeked inside the engine before
> buying it, because it is very sludgy in there. I scraped some of the gunk
> away with my fingernail and it still shows 1000 miles later. I'm thinking
> that is the problem and the oil pump was probably fine.
>
> What kind of sensors turn on the oil light? Level and pressure?
>
> Thanks
> --Art
>

Art M

So their diagnosis:

"Oil lamp coming on. Performed oil pressure test. Veh had sufficient PSI.
Ran veh & found oil level sensor inop intermit after veh gets hot. Replaced
oil level sensor & changed oil. Oil was dirty & need replacing along with
new filter." (Mileage: 39937)

Oil had been changed 1900 miles / 2 weeks before. A malfunctioning sensor
seems inconsistent with what happened as described in the quoted text below.
They didn't do anything to clean the engine.

They want me to come back in 2,000 miles for my 40K service and another oil
change.

Sounds like the run around to me.


Records indicate the following related to oil (Audi dealer service except
where noted):

11610 miles --- 10K service (oil change)18769 miles --- Audi service but no
oil change

24081 miles --- 20K service (oil change, 12471 miles since last) OIL PUMP
CHANGED
Oil light had come on

(2004 Aug - AUDI Oil sludge letter)

34535 miles --- 30K service (oil change, 10454 miles since last)
Oil light had come on

38081 miles --- I changed oil
Oil light had come on

39940 miles --- Oil change. Replaced oil level sensor
Oil light had come on

Any more advice?

Angry customer,
--Art


"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:lJ0pe.28403$iU.1074@lakeread05...
> (Oil level is correct)
>
> I recently bought an A4 B6 1.8T Q with 36k miles. I have put on about 2500
> more.
>
> The oil light 1st came on after driving for about 5 hours with only 1 or 2
> short stops. I was going about 80-85 mph when it came on. I pulled over
> and the level was about in the middle of the hashes. I topped it off with
> oil that was in the trunk from the previous owner (it wasn't synthetic)
> and started driving and it came on within a few minutes. I stopped again
> and waited a few minutes and then drove another 1.5 hrs at a slower speed
> with no problems.
>
> I then changed the oil myself replacing the Audi filter with another one
> from the dealer and filled it with mobile1 5W30 (even though the service
> notice on the dash says it's not due for more than 200 days and over 6000
> miles). No problems on the return trip and a couple of shorter trips, but
> then this weekend it came on again after driving about 5.5 hrs. This time
> I was in the mountains at 50 - 60 mph and it would come on for a few
> seconds at a time, only when the engine was straining to get up hills.
>
> The engine doesn't seem to be burning any oil.
>
> When I was buying the car I think the previous owner said he had had the
> oil pump replaced (I have a terrible memory). I don't know why that didn't
> raise any alarms in me, but he is a friend so I wasn't in skeptic mode.
>
> I wish I had removed the oil cap and peeked inside the engine before
> buying it, because it is very sludgy in there. I scraped some of the gunk
> away with my fingernail and it still shows 1000 miles later. I'm thinking
> that is the problem and the oil pump was probably fine.
>
> What kind of sensors turn on the oil light? Level and pressure?
>
> Thanks
> --Art
>

Tony

If this is the 1.8T engine the 'coking' issue can involve more than just the oil
pump that the dealer replaced.

Probably should replace the oil lines to the turbo and be sure that the updated
heat shield in installed.

Be sure to use the larger recommended updated oil filter from Audi.

Use the correct oil that was in the 'coking' advisory letter. Mobile One 0W40
and others are on the list. These oils can withstand the higher temperatures of
the 1.8T without coking.

TonyJ
98.5 1.8TQM

Art M wrote:

> So their diagnosis:
>
> "Oil lamp coming on. Performed oil pressure test. Veh had sufficient PSI.
> Ran veh & found oil level sensor inop intermit after veh gets hot. Replaced
> oil level sensor & changed oil. Oil was dirty & need replacing along with
> new filter." (Mileage: 39937)
>
> Oil had been changed 1900 miles / 2 weeks before. A malfunctioning sensor
> seems inconsistent with what happened as described in the quoted text below.
> They didn't do anything to clean the engine.
>
> They want me to come back in 2,000 miles for my 40K service and another oil
> change.
>
> Sounds like the run around to me.
>
>
> Records indicate the following related to oil (Audi dealer service except
> where noted):
>
> 11610 miles --- 10K service (oil change)18769 miles --- Audi service but no
> oil change
>
> 24081 miles --- 20K service (oil change, 12471 miles since last) OIL PUMP
> CHANGED
> Oil light had come on
>
> (2004 Aug - AUDI Oil sludge letter)
>
> 34535 miles --- 30K service (oil change, 10454 miles since last)
> Oil light had come on
>
> 38081 miles --- I changed oil
> Oil light had come on
>
> 39940 miles --- Oil change. Replaced oil level sensor
> Oil light had come on
>
> Any more advice?
>
> Angry customer,
> --Art
>
>
> "Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
> news:lJ0pe.28403$iU.1074@lakeread05...
>
>>(Oil level is correct)
>>
>>I recently bought an A4 B6 1.8T Q with 36k miles. I have put on about 2500
>>more.
>>
>>The oil light 1st came on after driving for about 5 hours with only 1 or 2
>>short stops. I was going about 80-85 mph when it came on. I pulled over
>>and the level was about in the middle of the hashes. I topped it off with
>>oil that was in the trunk from the previous owner (it wasn't synthetic)
>>and started driving and it came on within a few minutes. I stopped again
>>and waited a few minutes and then drove another 1.5 hrs at a slower speed
>>with no problems.
>>
>>I then changed the oil myself replacing the Audi filter with another one
>>from the dealer and filled it with mobile1 5W30 (even though the service
>>notice on the dash says it's not due for more than 200 days and over 6000
>>miles). No problems on the return trip and a couple of shorter trips, but
>>then this weekend it came on again after driving about 5.5 hrs. This time
>>I was in the mountains at 50 - 60 mph and it would come on for a few
>>seconds at a time, only when the engine was straining to get up hills.
>>
>>The engine doesn't seem to be burning any oil.
>>
>>When I was buying the car I think the previous owner said he had had the
>>oil pump replaced (I have a terrible memory). I don't know why that didn't
>>raise any alarms in me, but he is a friend so I wasn't in skeptic mode.
>>
>>I wish I had removed the oil cap and peeked inside the engine before
>>buying it, because it is very sludgy in there. I scraped some of the gunk
>>away with my fingernail and it still shows 1000 miles later. I'm thinking
>>that is the problem and the oil pump was probably fine.
>>
>>What kind of sensors turn on the oil light? Level and pressure?
>>
>>Thanks
>>--Art
>>
>
>
>

Tony

If this is the 1.8T engine the 'coking' issue can involve more than just the oil
pump that the dealer replaced.

Probably should replace the oil lines to the turbo and be sure that the updated
heat shield in installed.

Be sure to use the larger recommended updated oil filter from Audi.

Use the correct oil that was in the 'coking' advisory letter. Mobile One 0W40
and others are on the list. These oils can withstand the higher temperatures of
the 1.8T without coking.

TonyJ
98.5 1.8TQM

Art M wrote:

> So their diagnosis:
>
> "Oil lamp coming on. Performed oil pressure test. Veh had sufficient PSI.
> Ran veh & found oil level sensor inop intermit after veh gets hot. Replaced
> oil level sensor & changed oil. Oil was dirty & need replacing along with
> new filter." (Mileage: 39937)
>
> Oil had been changed 1900 miles / 2 weeks before. A malfunctioning sensor
> seems inconsistent with what happened as described in the quoted text below.
> They didn't do anything to clean the engine.
>
> They want me to come back in 2,000 miles for my 40K service and another oil
> change.
>
> Sounds like the run around to me.
>
>
> Records indicate the following related to oil (Audi dealer service except
> where noted):
>
> 11610 miles --- 10K service (oil change)18769 miles --- Audi service but no
> oil change
>
> 24081 miles --- 20K service (oil change, 12471 miles since last) OIL PUMP
> CHANGED
> Oil light had come on
>
> (2004 Aug - AUDI Oil sludge letter)
>
> 34535 miles --- 30K service (oil change, 10454 miles since last)
> Oil light had come on
>
> 38081 miles --- I changed oil
> Oil light had come on
>
> 39940 miles --- Oil change. Replaced oil level sensor
> Oil light had come on
>
> Any more advice?
>
> Angry customer,
> --Art
>
>
> "Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
> news:lJ0pe.28403$iU.1074@lakeread05...
>
>>(Oil level is correct)
>>
>>I recently bought an A4 B6 1.8T Q with 36k miles. I have put on about 2500
>>more.
>>
>>The oil light 1st came on after driving for about 5 hours with only 1 or 2
>>short stops. I was going about 80-85 mph when it came on. I pulled over
>>and the level was about in the middle of the hashes. I topped it off with
>>oil that was in the trunk from the previous owner (it wasn't synthetic)
>>and started driving and it came on within a few minutes. I stopped again
>>and waited a few minutes and then drove another 1.5 hrs at a slower speed
>>with no problems.
>>
>>I then changed the oil myself replacing the Audi filter with another one
>>from the dealer and filled it with mobile1 5W30 (even though the service
>>notice on the dash says it's not due for more than 200 days and over 6000
>>miles). No problems on the return trip and a couple of shorter trips, but
>>then this weekend it came on again after driving about 5.5 hrs. This time
>>I was in the mountains at 50 - 60 mph and it would come on for a few
>>seconds at a time, only when the engine was straining to get up hills.
>>
>>The engine doesn't seem to be burning any oil.
>>
>>When I was buying the car I think the previous owner said he had had the
>>oil pump replaced (I have a terrible memory). I don't know why that didn't
>>raise any alarms in me, but he is a friend so I wasn't in skeptic mode.
>>
>>I wish I had removed the oil cap and peeked inside the engine before
>>buying it, because it is very sludgy in there. I scraped some of the gunk
>>away with my fingernail and it still shows 1000 miles later. I'm thinking
>>that is the problem and the oil pump was probably fine.
>>
>>What kind of sensors turn on the oil light? Level and pressure?
>>
>>Thanks
>>--Art
>>
>
>
>

Tony

If this is the 1.8T engine the 'coking' issue can involve more than just the oil
pump that the dealer replaced.

Probably should replace the oil lines to the turbo and be sure that the updated
heat shield in installed.

Be sure to use the larger recommended updated oil filter from Audi.

Use the correct oil that was in the 'coking' advisory letter. Mobile One 0W40
and others are on the list. These oils can withstand the higher temperatures of
the 1.8T without coking.

TonyJ
98.5 1.8TQM

Art M wrote:

> So their diagnosis:
>
> "Oil lamp coming on. Performed oil pressure test. Veh had sufficient PSI.
> Ran veh & found oil level sensor inop intermit after veh gets hot. Replaced
> oil level sensor & changed oil. Oil was dirty & need replacing along with
> new filter." (Mileage: 39937)
>
> Oil had been changed 1900 miles / 2 weeks before. A malfunctioning sensor
> seems inconsistent with what happened as described in the quoted text below.
> They didn't do anything to clean the engine.
>
> They want me to come back in 2,000 miles for my 40K service and another oil
> change.
>
> Sounds like the run around to me.
>
>
> Records indicate the following related to oil (Audi dealer service except
> where noted):
>
> 11610 miles --- 10K service (oil change)18769 miles --- Audi service but no
> oil change
>
> 24081 miles --- 20K service (oil change, 12471 miles since last) OIL PUMP
> CHANGED
> Oil light had come on
>
> (2004 Aug - AUDI Oil sludge letter)
>
> 34535 miles --- 30K service (oil change, 10454 miles since last)
> Oil light had come on
>
> 38081 miles --- I changed oil
> Oil light had come on
>
> 39940 miles --- Oil change. Replaced oil level sensor
> Oil light had come on
>
> Any more advice?
>
> Angry customer,
> --Art
>
>
> "Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
> news:lJ0pe.28403$iU.1074@lakeread05...
>
>>(Oil level is correct)
>>
>>I recently bought an A4 B6 1.8T Q with 36k miles. I have put on about 2500
>>more.
>>
>>The oil light 1st came on after driving for about 5 hours with only 1 or 2
>>short stops. I was going about 80-85 mph when it came on. I pulled over
>>and the level was about in the middle of the hashes. I topped it off with
>>oil that was in the trunk from the previous owner (it wasn't synthetic)
>>and started driving and it came on within a few minutes. I stopped again
>>and waited a few minutes and then drove another 1.5 hrs at a slower speed
>>with no problems.
>>
>>I then changed the oil myself replacing the Audi filter with another one
>>from the dealer and filled it with mobile1 5W30 (even though the service
>>notice on the dash says it's not due for more than 200 days and over 6000
>>miles). No problems on the return trip and a couple of shorter trips, but
>>then this weekend it came on again after driving about 5.5 hrs. This time
>>I was in the mountains at 50 - 60 mph and it would come on for a few
>>seconds at a time, only when the engine was straining to get up hills.
>>
>>The engine doesn't seem to be burning any oil.
>>
>>When I was buying the car I think the previous owner said he had had the
>>oil pump replaced (I have a terrible memory). I don't know why that didn't
>>raise any alarms in me, but he is a friend so I wasn't in skeptic mode.
>>
>>I wish I had removed the oil cap and peeked inside the engine before
>>buying it, because it is very sludgy in there. I scraped some of the gunk
>>away with my fingernail and it still shows 1000 miles later. I'm thinking
>>that is the problem and the oil pump was probably fine.
>>
>>What kind of sensors turn on the oil light? Level and pressure?
>>
>>Thanks
>>--Art
>>
>
>
>

Ian S

"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:jkGse.34962$rb6.23160@lakeread07...
> So their diagnosis:
>
> "Oil was dirty & need replacing along with
> new filter."

Good grief! The oil is supposed to get dirty.

Is the oil light still coming on after replacing the sensor?

Ian S

"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:jkGse.34962$rb6.23160@lakeread07...
> So their diagnosis:
>
> "Oil was dirty & need replacing along with
> new filter."

Good grief! The oil is supposed to get dirty.

Is the oil light still coming on after replacing the sensor?

Ian S

"Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
news:jkGse.34962$rb6.23160@lakeread07...
> So their diagnosis:
>
> "Oil was dirty & need replacing along with
> new filter."

Good grief! The oil is supposed to get dirty.

Is the oil light still coming on after replacing the sensor?

Art M

"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:11b6m9tg2o2f87d@corp.supernews.com...
> If this is the 1.8T engine the 'coking' issue can involve more than just
> the oil pump that the dealer replaced.


It is the 1.8T and I have no doubt that the sludge is clogging things up.
When you look into the engine instead of seeing machined parts you see an
amorphous composition that hardly resembles anything mechanical.


> Probably should replace the oil lines to the turbo and be sure that the
> updated heat shield in installed.
>
> Be sure to use the larger recommended updated oil filter from Audi.


Yes, when I did it myself I got it from Audi and the previous filter was
also the long one. Not sure about the heat shield, but there is a lot of it
on the engine and some kind of foil wrapped around one of the tubes on the
passenger side and some folded foil/insulation around another tube.


> Use the correct oil that was in the 'coking' advisory letter. Mobile One
> 0W40 and others are on the list. These oils can withstand the higher
> temperatures of the 1.8T without coking.


According to the records the problem first began at 25K before the warranty
extension letter from Audi came out and the dealer was still using dino oil
and the short filter. I've only owned the car for about 3k miles.

--Art


>
> TonyJ
> 98.5 1.8TQM
>
> Art M wrote:
>
>> So their diagnosis:
>>
>> "Oil lamp coming on. Performed oil pressure test. Veh had sufficient PSI.
>> Ran veh & found oil level sensor inop intermit after veh gets hot.
>> Replaced oil level sensor & changed oil. Oil was dirty & need replacing
>> along with new filter." (Mileage: 39937)
>>
>> Oil had been changed 1900 miles / 2 weeks before. A malfunctioning sensor
>> seems inconsistent with what happened as described in the quoted text
>> below. They didn't do anything to clean the engine.
>>
>> They want me to come back in 2,000 miles for my 40K service and another
>> oil change.
>>
>> Sounds like the run around to me.
>>
>>
>> Records indicate the following related to oil (Audi dealer service except
>> where noted):
>>
>> 11610 miles --- 10K service (oil change)18769 miles --- Audi service but
>> no oil change
>>
>> 24081 miles --- 20K service (oil change, 12471 miles since last) OIL PUMP
>> CHANGED
>> Oil light had come on
>>
>> (2004 Aug - AUDI Oil sludge letter)
>>
>> 34535 miles --- 30K service (oil change, 10454 miles since last)
>> Oil light had come on
>>
>> 38081 miles --- I changed oil
>> Oil light had come on
>>
>> 39940 miles --- Oil change. Replaced oil level sensor
>> Oil light had come on
>>
>> Any more advice?
>>
>> Angry customer,
>> --Art
>>
>>
>> "Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
>> news:lJ0pe.28403$iU.1074@lakeread05...
>>

snip

Art M

"Tony" <tonyjnospam@nospamvisi.com> wrote in message
news:11b6m9tg2o2f87d@corp.supernews.com...
> If this is the 1.8T engine the 'coking' issue can involve more than just
> the oil pump that the dealer replaced.


It is the 1.8T and I have no doubt that the sludge is clogging things up.
When you look into the engine instead of seeing machined parts you see an
amorphous composition that hardly resembles anything mechanical.


> Probably should replace the oil lines to the turbo and be sure that the
> updated heat shield in installed.
>
> Be sure to use the larger recommended updated oil filter from Audi.


Yes, when I did it myself I got it from Audi and the previous filter was
also the long one. Not sure about the heat shield, but there is a lot of it
on the engine and some kind of foil wrapped around one of the tubes on the
passenger side and some folded foil/insulation around another tube.


> Use the correct oil that was in the 'coking' advisory letter. Mobile One
> 0W40 and others are on the list. These oils can withstand the higher
> temperatures of the 1.8T without coking.


According to the records the problem first began at 25K before the warranty
extension letter from Audi came out and the dealer was still using dino oil
and the short filter. I've only owned the car for about 3k miles.

--Art


>
> TonyJ
> 98.5 1.8TQM
>
> Art M wrote:
>
>> So their diagnosis:
>>
>> "Oil lamp coming on. Performed oil pressure test. Veh had sufficient PSI.
>> Ran veh & found oil level sensor inop intermit after veh gets hot.
>> Replaced oil level sensor & changed oil. Oil was dirty & need replacing
>> along with new filter." (Mileage: 39937)
>>
>> Oil had been changed 1900 miles / 2 weeks before. A malfunctioning sensor
>> seems inconsistent with what happened as described in the quoted text
>> below. They didn't do anything to clean the engine.
>>
>> They want me to come back in 2,000 miles for my 40K service and another
>> oil change.
>>
>> Sounds like the run around to me.
>>
>>
>> Records indicate the following related to oil (Audi dealer service except
>> where noted):
>>
>> 11610 miles --- 10K service (oil change)18769 miles --- Audi service but
>> no oil change
>>
>> 24081 miles --- 20K service (oil change, 12471 miles since last) OIL PUMP
>> CHANGED
>> Oil light had come on
>>
>> (2004 Aug - AUDI Oil sludge letter)
>>
>> 34535 miles --- 30K service (oil change, 10454 miles since last)
>> Oil light had come on
>>
>> 38081 miles --- I changed oil
>> Oil light had come on
>>
>> 39940 miles --- Oil change. Replaced oil level sensor
>> Oil light had come on
>>
>> Any more advice?
>>
>> Angry customer,
>> --Art
>>
>>
>> "Art M" <Xarthurruhtra@netscape.netX> wrote in message
>> news:lJ0pe.28403$iU.1074@lakeread05...
>>

snip