Bill Graham

Are they worth the money in regards performance increases?

Thanks,

Bill Graham

Chris Mauritz

Bill Graham wrote:
> Are they worth the money in regards performance increases?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Graham
>

No.

Doug Ramage

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> Are they worth the money in regards performance increases?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Graham
>

I did not notice any with my S3. Perhaps with exhaust modifications?

Also, there been reports of oil contaminating the MAF sensor, IIRC.
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Chris Mauritz

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>>Are they worth the money in regards performance increases?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Bill Graham
>>
>
>
> I did not notice any with my S3. Perhaps with exhaust modifications?
>
> Also, there been reports of oil contaminating the MAF sensor, IIRC.
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There's no such thing as a free lunch. Free-er flowing filtration means
more contaminants in your engine. Also, ever try cleaning and re-oiling
a K&N filter? It's a supreme mess. All that hassle, the risk of
allowing more crap into your engine, and you *might* get a couple of HP
out of it. Hardly seems worthwhile to me...

cheers,

C

Just Taylor

On Sun, 09 Nov 2003 15:23:47 GMT, Chris Mauritz <ritz@mordor.net> wrote:

>Doug Ramage wrote:
>> "Bill Graham" <whgraham@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:BBD339C4.20DAA%whgraham@nc.rr.com...
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>>>Are they worth the money in regards performance increases?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Bill Graham
>>>
>>
>>
>> I did not notice any with my S3. Perhaps with exhaust modifications?
>>
>> Also, there been reports of oil contaminating the MAF sensor, IIRC.
>> --
>> Doug Ramage
>>
>> ***Watch Spam Trap***
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>>
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>There's no such thing as a free lunch. Free-er flowing filtration means
>more contaminants in your engine. Also, ever try cleaning and re-oiling
>a K&N filter? It's a supreme mess. All that hassle, the risk of
>allowing more crap into your engine, and you *might* get a couple of HP
>out of it. Hardly seems worthwhile to me...

I think for street driving you are correct but I do like the K&N for
off-road vehicles. They do trap dirt particles very well and though I
won't say they are far superior than paper filters its nice to able to
wash out a really dirty filter after a long weekend off-road.

Cost is a factor too... I installed the K&N's on my Jeep when it was
brand new and five years later with 77000+ miles I have the same
filter... It has paid for itself, including the extra $11 for the
cleaner/oil spray which I just ran out of for the first time.


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Taylor

'89 Audi 200
'03 Audi S6 Avant
'98 Jeep Cherokee Sport

JML

"Bill Graham" <whgraham@nc.rr.com> kirjoitti viestissä
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> Are they worth the money in regards performance increases?

No - I just saw an article about Audis air intake modifications. As many of
us think, that those filters improve performance, this article clearly
showed that there aint a bit difference between normal and "tuning" filters,
at least performance vise. Article measured air pressure before and after
filter and with normal/K&N filter. The difference was almost nothing. The
only difference I have noticed is the intake sounds improving, but is that
worth in normal traffic, where no one likes to hear those improved intake
air sounds after some days!