How much did your last traffic ticket cost you?
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How much did your last traffic ticket cost you?
If you get fined for a traffic violation, what does it cost? Obviously
there's the fine itself. If you had to leave work to go to court, add the
price of your lost time and wages. Don't forget to include your increased
insurance premiums, which will probably add up, over several years, to much
more than the fine itself. Do you know the total cost yet?
No. The hidden cost, which most Americans have never even thought of when
dealing with traffic tickets, is you are losing your freedom. For years, the
government has been telling the public that driving is a priviledge, not a
right - and now most people believe that. Is it true, though?
When America was founded, our forefathers assumed the right to freely travel
the public roads without question in the peaceful conduct of their own
private affairs was such a fundamentally recognized right that they didn't
need to explicitly list it in the Constitution. That right, however, is
precisely what has been taken away: You must now first get permission from
the government before you venture out in public.
Do you really think it's proper that such a fundamental part of our freedom
has been taken away? Is that something you want to give up without a fight?
'Common wisdom' tells us that 'you can't fight City Hall' - the government is
out of control. That attitude is most of the problem: The only way it can
happen is if we let it - by not banding together into a unified voice to put
our public servants into their place.
YOU can make a difference. Help us in the fight to protect our liberty by
going to http://StopHighwayRobbery.com to join the battle, or to at least
learn more about the issues involved. This domestic threat to our freedom is
as dangerous, if not more so, than any external ones we have ever experienced
in the past.
http://StopHighwayRobbery.com -- it's your freedom at stake.
there's the fine itself. If you had to leave work to go to court, add the
price of your lost time and wages. Don't forget to include your increased
insurance premiums, which will probably add up, over several years, to much
more than the fine itself. Do you know the total cost yet?
No. The hidden cost, which most Americans have never even thought of when
dealing with traffic tickets, is you are losing your freedom. For years, the
government has been telling the public that driving is a priviledge, not a
right - and now most people believe that. Is it true, though?
When America was founded, our forefathers assumed the right to freely travel
the public roads without question in the peaceful conduct of their own
private affairs was such a fundamentally recognized right that they didn't
need to explicitly list it in the Constitution. That right, however, is
precisely what has been taken away: You must now first get permission from
the government before you venture out in public.
Do you really think it's proper that such a fundamental part of our freedom
has been taken away? Is that something you want to give up without a fight?
'Common wisdom' tells us that 'you can't fight City Hall' - the government is
out of control. That attitude is most of the problem: The only way it can
happen is if we let it - by not banding together into a unified voice to put
our public servants into their place.
YOU can make a difference. Help us in the fight to protect our liberty by
going to http://StopHighwayRobbery.com to join the battle, or to at least
learn more about the issues involved. This domestic threat to our freedom is
as dangerous, if not more so, than any external ones we have ever experienced
in the past.
http://StopHighwayRobbery.com -- it's your freedom at stake.
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Re: How much did your last traffic ticket cost you?
By creating a traffic violation you endangered other road users in some way,
which hardly constitutes peaceful conduct so you therefore loose your
freedom of travel.
John
"Fred Koschara" <wfredk@NOSPAM_StopHighwayRobberyNOSPAM.com> wrote in
message news:Xns93D9C0D577688wfredkSHRc@130.81.64.196...
> If you get fined for a traffic violation, what does it cost? Obviously
> there's the fine itself. If you had to leave work to go to court, add the
> price of your lost time and wages. Don't forget to include your increased
> insurance premiums, which will probably add up, over several years, to
much
> more than the fine itself. Do you know the total cost yet?
>
> No. The hidden cost, which most Americans have never even thought of when
> dealing with traffic tickets, is you are losing your freedom. For years,
the
> government has been telling the public that driving is a priviledge, not a
> right - and now most people believe that. Is it true, though?
>
> When America was founded, our forefathers assumed the right to freely
travel
> the public roads without question in the peaceful conduct of their own
> private affairs was such a fundamentally recognized right that they didn't
> need to explicitly list it in the Constitution. That right, however, is
> precisely what has been taken away: You must now first get permission from
> the government before you venture out in public.
>
> Do you really think it's proper that such a fundamental part of our
freedom
> has been taken away? Is that something you want to give up without a
fight?
>
> 'Common wisdom' tells us that 'you can't fight City Hall' - the government
is
> out of control. That attitude is most of the problem: The only way it can
> happen is if we let it - by not banding together into a unified voice to
put
> our public servants into their place.
>
> YOU can make a difference. Help us in the fight to protect our liberty by
> going to http://StopHighwayRobbery.com to join the battle, or to at
least
> learn more about the issues involved. This domestic threat to our freedom
is
> as dangerous, if not more so, than any external ones we have ever
experienced
> in the past.
>
> http://StopHighwayRobbery.com -- it's your freedom at stake.
which hardly constitutes peaceful conduct so you therefore loose your
freedom of travel.
John
"Fred Koschara" <wfredk@NOSPAM_StopHighwayRobberyNOSPAM.com> wrote in
message news:Xns93D9C0D577688wfredkSHRc@130.81.64.196...
> If you get fined for a traffic violation, what does it cost? Obviously
> there's the fine itself. If you had to leave work to go to court, add the
> price of your lost time and wages. Don't forget to include your increased
> insurance premiums, which will probably add up, over several years, to
much
> more than the fine itself. Do you know the total cost yet?
>
> No. The hidden cost, which most Americans have never even thought of when
> dealing with traffic tickets, is you are losing your freedom. For years,
the
> government has been telling the public that driving is a priviledge, not a
> right - and now most people believe that. Is it true, though?
>
> When America was founded, our forefathers assumed the right to freely
travel
> the public roads without question in the peaceful conduct of their own
> private affairs was such a fundamentally recognized right that they didn't
> need to explicitly list it in the Constitution. That right, however, is
> precisely what has been taken away: You must now first get permission from
> the government before you venture out in public.
>
> Do you really think it's proper that such a fundamental part of our
freedom
> has been taken away? Is that something you want to give up without a
fight?
>
> 'Common wisdom' tells us that 'you can't fight City Hall' - the government
is
> out of control. That attitude is most of the problem: The only way it can
> happen is if we let it - by not banding together into a unified voice to
put
> our public servants into their place.
>
> YOU can make a difference. Help us in the fight to protect our liberty by
> going to http://StopHighwayRobbery.com to join the battle, or to at
least
> learn more about the issues involved. This domestic threat to our freedom
is
> as dangerous, if not more so, than any external ones we have ever
experienced
> in the past.
>
> http://StopHighwayRobbery.com -- it's your freedom at stake.
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Re: How much did your last traffic ticket cost you?
Fred Koschara <wfredk@NOSPAM_StopHighwayRobberyNOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:<Xns93D9C0D577688wfredkSHRc@130.81.64.196>...
>
> No. The hidden cost, which most Americans have never even thought of when
> dealing with traffic tickets, is you are losing your freedom. For years, the
> government has been telling the public that driving is a priviledge, not a
> right - and now most people believe that. Is it true, though?
Yes. It is now, and always has been, merely a *privilege* to travel
on roads built, maintained by, and regulated by, others - including
the government. If *I* build a road on *my* property, I'll do what I
damn well please with it and I'll have the *right* to tell you when,
how, and *if* you can travel on it. You have the same right. Why
should the government have any fewer rights with *its* roads? When
*you* build it, you can regulate it as you wish. When the
*government* builds it, it (by and through *your* elected
representatives) takes on the same role. Therefore, it's *not* a
right to drive, walk, or do anything else on 'public' roads. It's a
*privilege*.
> When America was founded, our forefathers assumed the right to freely travel
> the public roads without question in the peaceful conduct of their own
> private affairs was such a fundamentally recognized right that they didn't
> need to explicitly list it in the Constitution.
They assumed no such thing. There were very few public roads at that
time. In fact, there were quite a few toll roads, bridges, and
ferries owned by *private parties*. You didn't pay; you didn't
travel. Read the part of the Constitution about building and
*regulating* "post roads" in order to get the mail around the country.
That's where the government got the power to regulate public road
travel. It was not a 'reserved power' as you seem to think, but a
logical extension of the charge to build those roads in the first
place. Maybe you'd prefer that they remain reserved for the
transportation of mail *only*, with no one allowed to operate private
vehicles on them.
> That right, however, is
> precisely what has been taken away: You must now first get permission from
> the government before you venture out in public.
No; but to *drive* on the government-regulated highway system, you do.
Gee, you're dumb.
> Do you really think it's proper that such a fundamental part of our freedom
> has been taken away?
So now driving has become a 'fundamental freedom'? You slept through
quite a lot of classes in school, didn't you?
> 'Common wisdom' tells us that 'you can't fight City Hall' - the government is
> out of control. That attitude is most of the problem: The only way it can
> happen is if we let it - by not banding together into a unified voice to put
> our public servants into their place.
Gosh, you don't even have the money to buy a clue, do you? Too many
'Operating under suspension' violations, I'd guess.
--
C.R. Krieger
Attorney at Law
>
> No. The hidden cost, which most Americans have never even thought of when
> dealing with traffic tickets, is you are losing your freedom. For years, the
> government has been telling the public that driving is a priviledge, not a
> right - and now most people believe that. Is it true, though?
Yes. It is now, and always has been, merely a *privilege* to travel
on roads built, maintained by, and regulated by, others - including
the government. If *I* build a road on *my* property, I'll do what I
damn well please with it and I'll have the *right* to tell you when,
how, and *if* you can travel on it. You have the same right. Why
should the government have any fewer rights with *its* roads? When
*you* build it, you can regulate it as you wish. When the
*government* builds it, it (by and through *your* elected
representatives) takes on the same role. Therefore, it's *not* a
right to drive, walk, or do anything else on 'public' roads. It's a
*privilege*.
> When America was founded, our forefathers assumed the right to freely travel
> the public roads without question in the peaceful conduct of their own
> private affairs was such a fundamentally recognized right that they didn't
> need to explicitly list it in the Constitution.
They assumed no such thing. There were very few public roads at that
time. In fact, there were quite a few toll roads, bridges, and
ferries owned by *private parties*. You didn't pay; you didn't
travel. Read the part of the Constitution about building and
*regulating* "post roads" in order to get the mail around the country.
That's where the government got the power to regulate public road
travel. It was not a 'reserved power' as you seem to think, but a
logical extension of the charge to build those roads in the first
place. Maybe you'd prefer that they remain reserved for the
transportation of mail *only*, with no one allowed to operate private
vehicles on them.
> That right, however, is
> precisely what has been taken away: You must now first get permission from
> the government before you venture out in public.
No; but to *drive* on the government-regulated highway system, you do.
Gee, you're dumb.
> Do you really think it's proper that such a fundamental part of our freedom
> has been taken away?
So now driving has become a 'fundamental freedom'? You slept through
quite a lot of classes in school, didn't you?
> 'Common wisdom' tells us that 'you can't fight City Hall' - the government is
> out of control. That attitude is most of the problem: The only way it can
> happen is if we let it - by not banding together into a unified voice to put
> our public servants into their place.
Gosh, you don't even have the money to buy a clue, do you? Too many
'Operating under suspension' violations, I'd guess.
--
C.R. Krieger
Attorney at Law
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Re: How much did your last traffic ticket cost you?
C.R. :
Hilarious! I always look forward to your entertaining replies!
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Stephen Clark
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Hilarious! I always look forward to your entertaining replies!
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Stephen Clark
89 Audi 100
99 Lexus RX300
Houston, Texas USA
See my Audi in the Registry at www.audiworld.com!
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