help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
#31
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement - Sludge TSB
Sorry to welcome you to the club.
See the TSB as to whether engine replacement is necessary.
http://www.pookrat.com/uploads/pics/TSB.pdf
Because the engine has valve tappets the oil light comes on at a higher
pressure than on other engines. Mine came on when the pressure dropped below
20 psi on the highway (other cars might light up as low as 6 psi). However,
if it is sludged but not yet damaged it will still require significant cost
to desludge and then it still may not be perfect.
How bad did it get. Did you just notice the oil light or did the pressure
get so low that the tappets started making noise? Regardless, put the
pressure on them.
I've tired of writing about sludge (some rants below). My vehicle (still
within the 4 yr 50k mi warranty period) is now considered neglected due to
an oil change after driving 12400 miles (previous owner), so now THEY WON'T
COVER ANYTHING even if it's as unrelated as the radio going bad. If you have
questions about it let me know.
--Art
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...st/104952.html
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...t/subject.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106376.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106386.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108082.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108104.html
"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
See the TSB as to whether engine replacement is necessary.
http://www.pookrat.com/uploads/pics/TSB.pdf
Because the engine has valve tappets the oil light comes on at a higher
pressure than on other engines. Mine came on when the pressure dropped below
20 psi on the highway (other cars might light up as low as 6 psi). However,
if it is sludged but not yet damaged it will still require significant cost
to desludge and then it still may not be perfect.
How bad did it get. Did you just notice the oil light or did the pressure
get so low that the tappets started making noise? Regardless, put the
pressure on them.
I've tired of writing about sludge (some rants below). My vehicle (still
within the 4 yr 50k mi warranty period) is now considered neglected due to
an oil change after driving 12400 miles (previous owner), so now THEY WON'T
COVER ANYTHING even if it's as unrelated as the radio going bad. If you have
questions about it let me know.
--Art
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...st/104952.html
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...t/subject.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106376.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106386.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108082.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108104.html
"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1140025689.113943.182520@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
#32
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
Yep. Serious.:
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
(you might need to do some cutting & pasting)
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Sears" wrote
>> Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
>> .....what? They cancelled that ?????
>
> Are you serious? When did that happen? I must have dozed off...
>
> Pete
>
>
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
(you might need to do some cutting & pasting)
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Sears" wrote
>> Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
>> .....what? They cancelled that ?????
>
> Are you serious? When did that happen? I must have dozed off...
>
> Pete
>
>
#33
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
Yep. Serious.:
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
(you might need to do some cutting & pasting)
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Sears" wrote
>> Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
>> .....what? They cancelled that ?????
>
> Are you serious? When did that happen? I must have dozed off...
>
> Pete
>
>
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
(you might need to do some cutting & pasting)
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Sears" wrote
>> Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
>> .....what? They cancelled that ?????
>
> Are you serious? When did that happen? I must have dozed off...
>
> Pete
>
>
#34
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
Yep. Serious.:
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
(you might need to do some cutting & pasting)
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dsvv71$nfp$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>
> "Steve Sears" wrote
>> Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
>> .....what? They cancelled that ?????
>
> Are you serious? When did that happen? I must have dozed off...
>
> Pete
>
>
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...fsect=2006NADA
(you might need to do some cutting & pasting)
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:dsvv71$nfp$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
>
> "Steve Sears" wrote
>> Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
>> .....what? They cancelled that ?????
>
> Are you serious? When did that happen? I must have dozed off...
>
> Pete
>
>
#35
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement - Sludge TSB
Art, Steve, Pete,
Thanks a lot for the information you've provided. I'm wrung-out over
haggling with Audi and want to get the car fixed to get past the
headache.
I found a performance shop specializing in Audi/VW and feel comfortable
doing business with them. Initially they recommended replacment with a
used low mileage engine but at the moment a reasonably priced,
low-mileage engine is not available. He thinks the engine rebuild
would be more cost effective. So I am arranging to transport the
vehicle to their facility and may wait a while to see if an engine
becomes available. In either case, I am thinking to add a performance
exhaust and coil-over shocks while I am at it. Add the ECU upgrade and
18" wheels later.
I'm rationalizing the upgrades to sooth the emotional trauma caused by
Audi's poor service, Just have to be careful to have a straight face
when I tell the wife that they were worn out and need
replacing......
The exhaust and ECU upgrade seem to be the base set of upgrades - do
you guys agree or should I upgrade any engine components while the
engine is getting rebuilt?
Greg
Thanks a lot for the information you've provided. I'm wrung-out over
haggling with Audi and want to get the car fixed to get past the
headache.
I found a performance shop specializing in Audi/VW and feel comfortable
doing business with them. Initially they recommended replacment with a
used low mileage engine but at the moment a reasonably priced,
low-mileage engine is not available. He thinks the engine rebuild
would be more cost effective. So I am arranging to transport the
vehicle to their facility and may wait a while to see if an engine
becomes available. In either case, I am thinking to add a performance
exhaust and coil-over shocks while I am at it. Add the ECU upgrade and
18" wheels later.
I'm rationalizing the upgrades to sooth the emotional trauma caused by
Audi's poor service, Just have to be careful to have a straight face
when I tell the wife that they were worn out and need
replacing......
The exhaust and ECU upgrade seem to be the base set of upgrades - do
you guys agree or should I upgrade any engine components while the
engine is getting rebuilt?
Greg
#36
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement - Sludge TSB
Art, Steve, Pete,
Thanks a lot for the information you've provided. I'm wrung-out over
haggling with Audi and want to get the car fixed to get past the
headache.
I found a performance shop specializing in Audi/VW and feel comfortable
doing business with them. Initially they recommended replacment with a
used low mileage engine but at the moment a reasonably priced,
low-mileage engine is not available. He thinks the engine rebuild
would be more cost effective. So I am arranging to transport the
vehicle to their facility and may wait a while to see if an engine
becomes available. In either case, I am thinking to add a performance
exhaust and coil-over shocks while I am at it. Add the ECU upgrade and
18" wheels later.
I'm rationalizing the upgrades to sooth the emotional trauma caused by
Audi's poor service, Just have to be careful to have a straight face
when I tell the wife that they were worn out and need
replacing......
The exhaust and ECU upgrade seem to be the base set of upgrades - do
you guys agree or should I upgrade any engine components while the
engine is getting rebuilt?
Greg
Thanks a lot for the information you've provided. I'm wrung-out over
haggling with Audi and want to get the car fixed to get past the
headache.
I found a performance shop specializing in Audi/VW and feel comfortable
doing business with them. Initially they recommended replacment with a
used low mileage engine but at the moment a reasonably priced,
low-mileage engine is not available. He thinks the engine rebuild
would be more cost effective. So I am arranging to transport the
vehicle to their facility and may wait a while to see if an engine
becomes available. In either case, I am thinking to add a performance
exhaust and coil-over shocks while I am at it. Add the ECU upgrade and
18" wheels later.
I'm rationalizing the upgrades to sooth the emotional trauma caused by
Audi's poor service, Just have to be careful to have a straight face
when I tell the wife that they were worn out and need
replacing......
The exhaust and ECU upgrade seem to be the base set of upgrades - do
you guys agree or should I upgrade any engine components while the
engine is getting rebuilt?
Greg
#37
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement - Sludge TSB
Art, Steve, Pete,
Thanks a lot for the information you've provided. I'm wrung-out over
haggling with Audi and want to get the car fixed to get past the
headache.
I found a performance shop specializing in Audi/VW and feel comfortable
doing business with them. Initially they recommended replacment with a
used low mileage engine but at the moment a reasonably priced,
low-mileage engine is not available. He thinks the engine rebuild
would be more cost effective. So I am arranging to transport the
vehicle to their facility and may wait a while to see if an engine
becomes available. In either case, I am thinking to add a performance
exhaust and coil-over shocks while I am at it. Add the ECU upgrade and
18" wheels later.
I'm rationalizing the upgrades to sooth the emotional trauma caused by
Audi's poor service, Just have to be careful to have a straight face
when I tell the wife that they were worn out and need
replacing......
The exhaust and ECU upgrade seem to be the base set of upgrades - do
you guys agree or should I upgrade any engine components while the
engine is getting rebuilt?
Greg
Thanks a lot for the information you've provided. I'm wrung-out over
haggling with Audi and want to get the car fixed to get past the
headache.
I found a performance shop specializing in Audi/VW and feel comfortable
doing business with them. Initially they recommended replacment with a
used low mileage engine but at the moment a reasonably priced,
low-mileage engine is not available. He thinks the engine rebuild
would be more cost effective. So I am arranging to transport the
vehicle to their facility and may wait a while to see if an engine
becomes available. In either case, I am thinking to add a performance
exhaust and coil-over shocks while I am at it. Add the ECU upgrade and
18" wheels later.
I'm rationalizing the upgrades to sooth the emotional trauma caused by
Audi's poor service, Just have to be careful to have a straight face
when I tell the wife that they were worn out and need
replacing......
The exhaust and ECU upgrade seem to be the base set of upgrades - do
you guys agree or should I upgrade any engine components while the
engine is getting rebuilt?
Greg
#38
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
Pete,
Yeah - on a long road trip and argueing also - pretty stressful - like
I said: live and learn. Fortunately, the holidays went pretty well
after that.
The point about the mineral oil is very interesting. I recall asking
the service manager when I first brought the car in for maintenance
about the synthetic oil and he said that Audi now specifies synthetic
oil - didn't think to ask if the car originally had synthetic.
Greg
Yeah - on a long road trip and argueing also - pretty stressful - like
I said: live and learn. Fortunately, the holidays went pretty well
after that.
The point about the mineral oil is very interesting. I recall asking
the service manager when I first brought the car in for maintenance
about the synthetic oil and he said that Audi now specifies synthetic
oil - didn't think to ask if the car originally had synthetic.
Greg
#39
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
Pete,
Yeah - on a long road trip and argueing also - pretty stressful - like
I said: live and learn. Fortunately, the holidays went pretty well
after that.
The point about the mineral oil is very interesting. I recall asking
the service manager when I first brought the car in for maintenance
about the synthetic oil and he said that Audi now specifies synthetic
oil - didn't think to ask if the car originally had synthetic.
Greg
Yeah - on a long road trip and argueing also - pretty stressful - like
I said: live and learn. Fortunately, the holidays went pretty well
after that.
The point about the mineral oil is very interesting. I recall asking
the service manager when I first brought the car in for maintenance
about the synthetic oil and he said that Audi now specifies synthetic
oil - didn't think to ask if the car originally had synthetic.
Greg
#40
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
Pete,
Yeah - on a long road trip and argueing also - pretty stressful - like
I said: live and learn. Fortunately, the holidays went pretty well
after that.
The point about the mineral oil is very interesting. I recall asking
the service manager when I first brought the car in for maintenance
about the synthetic oil and he said that Audi now specifies synthetic
oil - didn't think to ask if the car originally had synthetic.
Greg
Yeah - on a long road trip and argueing also - pretty stressful - like
I said: live and learn. Fortunately, the holidays went pretty well
after that.
The point about the mineral oil is very interesting. I recall asking
the service manager when I first brought the car in for maintenance
about the synthetic oil and he said that Audi now specifies synthetic
oil - didn't think to ask if the car originally had synthetic.
Greg