help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
"gcoz" wrote
> My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well.
So... you fell asleep in the midst of a fight with your wife? LOL!
Anyway, good luck with the repairs. AoA can be a pain to deal with
sometimes. The key is to keep pestering them or even threaten with a
lawyer.
The issue with the sludge had to do with the fact that Audi dealers were
using mineral oil instead of higher quality synthetic back then (2003)
during the scheduled maintenance visits. So even if the oil was changed on
time (once a year or every 10K miles per Audi), you could have ended up with
the same problem.
Pete
#22
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
"gcoz" wrote
> My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well.
So... you fell asleep in the midst of a fight with your wife? LOL!
Anyway, good luck with the repairs. AoA can be a pain to deal with
sometimes. The key is to keep pestering them or even threaten with a
lawyer.
The issue with the sludge had to do with the fact that Audi dealers were
using mineral oil instead of higher quality synthetic back then (2003)
during the scheduled maintenance visits. So even if the oil was changed on
time (once a year or every 10K miles per Audi), you could have ended up with
the same problem.
Pete
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
" I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. "
wow.....seems to be a common expression being voiced here and other places.
Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
......what? They cancelled that ?????
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - quite happy driving older Audis and supporting internet
parts suppliers
1980 Audi 5k - like I said...
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
wow.....seems to be a common expression being voiced here and other places.
Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
......what? They cancelled that ?????
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - quite happy driving older Audis and supporting internet
parts suppliers
1980 Audi 5k - like I said...
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
" I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. "
wow.....seems to be a common expression being voiced here and other places.
Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
......what? They cancelled that ?????
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - quite happy driving older Audis and supporting internet
parts suppliers
1980 Audi 5k - like I said...
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
wow.....seems to be a common expression being voiced here and other places.
Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
......what? They cancelled that ?????
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - quite happy driving older Audis and supporting internet
parts suppliers
1980 Audi 5k - like I said...
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement
" I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. "
wow.....seems to be a common expression being voiced here and other places.
Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
......what? They cancelled that ?????
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - quite happy driving older Audis and supporting internet
parts suppliers
1980 Audi 5k - like I said...
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
wow.....seems to be a common expression being voiced here and other places.
Maybe that will be remedied with the free service interval.....
......what? They cancelled that ?????
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - quite happy driving older Audis and supporting internet
parts suppliers
1980 Audi 5k - like I said...
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
#29
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement - Sludge TSB
Sorry to welcome you to the club.
See the TSB as to whether engine replacement is necessary.
http://www.pookrat.com/uploads/pics/TSB.pdf
Because the engine has valve tappets the oil light comes on at a higher
pressure than on other engines. Mine came on when the pressure dropped below
20 psi on the highway (other cars might light up as low as 6 psi). However,
if it is sludged but not yet damaged it will still require significant cost
to desludge and then it still may not be perfect.
How bad did it get. Did you just notice the oil light or did the pressure
get so low that the tappets started making noise? Regardless, put the
pressure on them.
I've tired of writing about sludge (some rants below). My vehicle (still
within the 4 yr 50k mi warranty period) is now considered neglected due to
an oil change after driving 12400 miles (previous owner), so now THEY WON'T
COVER ANYTHING even if it's as unrelated as the radio going bad. If you have
questions about it let me know.
--Art
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...st/104952.html
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...t/subject.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106376.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106386.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108082.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108104.html
"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
See the TSB as to whether engine replacement is necessary.
http://www.pookrat.com/uploads/pics/TSB.pdf
Because the engine has valve tappets the oil light comes on at a higher
pressure than on other engines. Mine came on when the pressure dropped below
20 psi on the highway (other cars might light up as low as 6 psi). However,
if it is sludged but not yet damaged it will still require significant cost
to desludge and then it still may not be perfect.
How bad did it get. Did you just notice the oil light or did the pressure
get so low that the tappets started making noise? Regardless, put the
pressure on them.
I've tired of writing about sludge (some rants below). My vehicle (still
within the 4 yr 50k mi warranty period) is now considered neglected due to
an oil change after driving 12400 miles (previous owner), so now THEY WON'T
COVER ANYTHING even if it's as unrelated as the radio going bad. If you have
questions about it let me know.
--Art
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...st/104952.html
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...t/subject.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106376.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106386.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108082.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108104.html
"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1140025689.113943.182520@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
#30
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Re: help with 2003 A4 engine replacement - Sludge TSB
Sorry to welcome you to the club.
See the TSB as to whether engine replacement is necessary.
http://www.pookrat.com/uploads/pics/TSB.pdf
Because the engine has valve tappets the oil light comes on at a higher
pressure than on other engines. Mine came on when the pressure dropped below
20 psi on the highway (other cars might light up as low as 6 psi). However,
if it is sludged but not yet damaged it will still require significant cost
to desludge and then it still may not be perfect.
How bad did it get. Did you just notice the oil light or did the pressure
get so low that the tappets started making noise? Regardless, put the
pressure on them.
I've tired of writing about sludge (some rants below). My vehicle (still
within the 4 yr 50k mi warranty period) is now considered neglected due to
an oil change after driving 12400 miles (previous owner), so now THEY WON'T
COVER ANYTHING even if it's as unrelated as the radio going bad. If you have
questions about it let me know.
--Art
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...st/104952.html
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...t/subject.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106376.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106386.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108082.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108104.html
"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1140025689.113943.182520@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>
See the TSB as to whether engine replacement is necessary.
http://www.pookrat.com/uploads/pics/TSB.pdf
Because the engine has valve tappets the oil light comes on at a higher
pressure than on other engines. Mine came on when the pressure dropped below
20 psi on the highway (other cars might light up as low as 6 psi). However,
if it is sludged but not yet damaged it will still require significant cost
to desludge and then it still may not be perfect.
How bad did it get. Did you just notice the oil light or did the pressure
get so low that the tappets started making noise? Regardless, put the
pressure on them.
I've tired of writing about sludge (some rants below). My vehicle (still
within the 4 yr 50k mi warranty period) is now considered neglected due to
an oil change after driving 12400 miles (previous owner), so now THEY WON'T
COVER ANYTHING even if it's as unrelated as the radio going bad. If you have
questions about it let me know.
--Art
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...st/104952.html
http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/qu...t/subject.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106376.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...er/106386.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108082.html
http://audifans.com/pipermail/quattr...ry/108104.html
"gcoz" <gcoz@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:1140025689.113943.182520@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Thanks Pete. My wife was driving at the time and I was sleeping - we
> were in the midst of an arguement as well. Just chalking it up to live
> and learn.
> Anyhow, on the oil sludge thing - they are denying coverage based on a
> missed service interval. I purchased the car as a demo - certified
> pre-owned and it was supposed to have had been serviced at that point
> but the Audi dealer claims not to have records of it - that is the
> appeal I am making to Audi Corporate. Audi is not easy to deal with -
> I love the car but am not happy with Audi response. I am planning to
> fix the car and tweak the performance anyway but not sure if I will
> purchase another Audi.
>
> Greg
>