Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
Peter H wrote:
> Thanks, Ed. The problem I'd have is finding the (possibly) offending
> relay. I believe there are at least 23 of the things scattered round
> the car in various inaccessible locations. What I've been trying to
> find is a guide that lists the relays and their functions - so far
> without success.
I hate to say it, but here goes:
Bentley Manual.
Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
Strange, yes?
Anyway, once you buy the offending relay and Bentley, your couple
hundred quid are spent. And it may or may not solve your problem.
I wish I could be more helpful. Or hopeful.
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
Peter H wrote:
> Thanks, Ed. The problem I'd have is finding the (possibly) offending
> relay. I believe there are at least 23 of the things scattered round
> the car in various inaccessible locations. What I've been trying to
> find is a guide that lists the relays and their functions - so far
> without success.
I hate to say it, but here goes:
Bentley Manual.
Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
Strange, yes?
Anyway, once you buy the offending relay and Bentley, your couple
hundred quid are spent. And it may or may not solve your problem.
I wish I could be more helpful. Or hopeful.
--
E.P.
1995 UrS6
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
> I hate to say it, but here goes:
>
> Bentley Manual.
>
Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
> Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> Strange, yes?
Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
"unknown". I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
dashboard first makes access to them difficult. This may be a
peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Thanks for your help.
Peter
>
> Bentley Manual.
>
Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
> Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> Strange, yes?
Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
"unknown". I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
dashboard first makes access to them difficult. This may be a
peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Thanks for your help.
Peter
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
> I hate to say it, but here goes:
>
> Bentley Manual.
>
Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
> Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> Strange, yes?
Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
"unknown". I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
dashboard first makes access to them difficult. This may be a
peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Thanks for your help.
Peter
>
> Bentley Manual.
>
Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
> Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> Strange, yes?
Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
"unknown". I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
dashboard first makes access to them difficult. This may be a
peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Thanks for your help.
Peter
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
> I hate to say it, but here goes:
>
> Bentley Manual.
>
Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
> Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> Strange, yes?
Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
"unknown". I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
dashboard first makes access to them difficult. This may be a
peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Thanks for your help.
Peter
>
> Bentley Manual.
>
Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
> Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> Strange, yes?
Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
"unknown". I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
dashboard first makes access to them difficult. This may be a
peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Thanks for your help.
Peter
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
Peter H wrote:
> > I hate to say it, but here goes:
> >
> > Bentley Manual.
> >
> Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
!!!?
Robert Bentley and Associates (IIRC) ship anywhere in the world. The
manuals are expensive, and LHD-centered. They are EXCEEDINGLY helpful.
They can pay for themselves on the first use.
> > Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> > Strange, yes?
>
> Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
> "unknown".
My apologies. I did misread your comments.
> I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
> dashboard first makes access to them difficult.
Removing the undertray is not complicated, nor difficult. It is a
pain, I will agree. And the underhood ones are very easy to access.
IIRC, the ones under the RH carpet (in the footwell there) are the
hardest to get to. I suppose you're going to tell me next that this is
where that relay is located. Murphy's Law and all. The LH footwell
(up under the dash) are quite simple to get at, after the undertray has
been removed.
> This may be a
> peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Yes, there is that. That is one UK practice that I'm glad didn't catch
on here in the colonies.
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
Peter H wrote:
> > I hate to say it, but here goes:
> >
> > Bentley Manual.
> >
> Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
!!!?
Robert Bentley and Associates (IIRC) ship anywhere in the world. The
manuals are expensive, and LHD-centered. They are EXCEEDINGLY helpful.
They can pay for themselves on the first use.
> > Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> > Strange, yes?
>
> Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
> "unknown".
My apologies. I did misread your comments.
> I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
> dashboard first makes access to them difficult.
Removing the undertray is not complicated, nor difficult. It is a
pain, I will agree. And the underhood ones are very easy to access.
IIRC, the ones under the RH carpet (in the footwell there) are the
hardest to get to. I suppose you're going to tell me next that this is
where that relay is located. Murphy's Law and all. The LH footwell
(up under the dash) are quite simple to get at, after the undertray has
been removed.
> This may be a
> peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Yes, there is that. That is one UK practice that I'm glad didn't catch
on here in the colonies.
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
Peter H wrote:
> > I hate to say it, but here goes:
> >
> > Bentley Manual.
> >
> Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
!!!?
Robert Bentley and Associates (IIRC) ship anywhere in the world. The
manuals are expensive, and LHD-centered. They are EXCEEDINGLY helpful.
They can pay for themselves on the first use.
> > Funny, but in my owner's manual, it says EXACTLY where each relay is.
> > Strange, yes?
>
> Not really strange, no. You seem to have mistaken "inaccessible" for
> "unknown".
My apologies. I did misread your comments.
> I know where the relays are, but having to remove half the
> dashboard first makes access to them difficult.
Removing the undertray is not complicated, nor difficult. It is a
pain, I will agree. And the underhood ones are very easy to access.
IIRC, the ones under the RH carpet (in the footwell there) are the
hardest to get to. I suppose you're going to tell me next that this is
where that relay is located. Murphy's Law and all. The LH footwell
(up under the dash) are quite simple to get at, after the undertray has
been removed.
> This may be a
> peculiarity of right-hand-drive cars.
Yes, there is that. That is one UK practice that I'm glad didn't catch
on here in the colonies.
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
"Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Peter H wrote:
>> > I hate to say it, but here goes:
>> >
>> > Bentley Manual.
>> >
>> Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
>
>!!!?
>
>Robert Bentley and Associates (IIRC) ship anywhere in the world. The
>manuals are expensive, and LHD-centered. They are EXCEEDINGLY helpful.
> They can pay for themselves on the first use.
>
One caution however.. The newer Audi maintenance manuals (through
Bentley) are of no help at all when it comes to troubleshooting DTC's.
For example, the A3 manual, for any controller that might produce a
DTC, says:
"With ignition switched off, connect Vehicle Diagnosis, Testing and
Information System VAS 5051/5052 select "Vehicle Self Diagnosis"
Vehicle Diagnosis, Testing and Information System VAS 5051 / 5052 ,
connecting and selecting functions ."
So, unless you own or lease a a VAS 5051 or 5052, you'll need
VAG-COM..
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>
>Peter H wrote:
>> > I hate to say it, but here goes:
>> >
>> > Bentley Manual.
>> >
>> Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
>
>!!!?
>
>Robert Bentley and Associates (IIRC) ship anywhere in the world. The
>manuals are expensive, and LHD-centered. They are EXCEEDINGLY helpful.
> They can pay for themselves on the first use.
>
One caution however.. The newer Audi maintenance manuals (through
Bentley) are of no help at all when it comes to troubleshooting DTC's.
For example, the A3 manual, for any controller that might produce a
DTC, says:
"With ignition switched off, connect Vehicle Diagnosis, Testing and
Information System VAS 5051/5052 select "Vehicle Self Diagnosis"
Vehicle Diagnosis, Testing and Information System VAS 5051 / 5052 ,
connecting and selecting functions ."
So, unless you own or lease a a VAS 5051 or 5052, you'll need
VAG-COM..
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Re: Electrical problem - anyone else had this?
"Ed Pirrero" <gcmschemist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Peter H wrote:
>> > I hate to say it, but here goes:
>> >
>> > Bentley Manual.
>> >
>> Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
>
>!!!?
>
>Robert Bentley and Associates (IIRC) ship anywhere in the world. The
>manuals are expensive, and LHD-centered. They are EXCEEDINGLY helpful.
> They can pay for themselves on the first use.
>
One caution however.. The newer Audi maintenance manuals (through
Bentley) are of no help at all when it comes to troubleshooting DTC's.
For example, the A3 manual, for any controller that might produce a
DTC, says:
"With ignition switched off, connect Vehicle Diagnosis, Testing and
Information System VAS 5051/5052 select "Vehicle Self Diagnosis"
Vehicle Diagnosis, Testing and Information System VAS 5051 / 5052 ,
connecting and selecting functions ."
So, unless you own or lease a a VAS 5051 or 5052, you'll need
VAG-COM..
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>
>Peter H wrote:
>> > I hate to say it, but here goes:
>> >
>> > Bentley Manual.
>> >
>> Not available in here the United Kingdom, unfortunately.
>
>!!!?
>
>Robert Bentley and Associates (IIRC) ship anywhere in the world. The
>manuals are expensive, and LHD-centered. They are EXCEEDINGLY helpful.
> They can pay for themselves on the first use.
>
One caution however.. The newer Audi maintenance manuals (through
Bentley) are of no help at all when it comes to troubleshooting DTC's.
For example, the A3 manual, for any controller that might produce a
DTC, says:
"With ignition switched off, connect Vehicle Diagnosis, Testing and
Information System VAS 5051/5052 select "Vehicle Self Diagnosis"
Vehicle Diagnosis, Testing and Information System VAS 5051 / 5052 ,
connecting and selecting functions ."
So, unless you own or lease a a VAS 5051 or 5052, you'll need
VAG-COM..
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