Audi questions from a perspective buyer
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
Marty, I am a 'new' Audi owner (bought my 2004 A4 1.8Tq in September of
2003) and am glad I did it. I compared it with the Acura TSX and the
SAAB 9-3 when I was shopping. The 1.8T is great in manual transmission
form, but if you test drove a Tip, I can see how you'd feel it was a
little underpowered. While I have had a few minor annoyances (not
problems) they have all been fixed or are in the process of being fixed
under warranty. Glovebox door and rear seatbelt airbag sensor are
awaiting parts, and I had a sunroof rattle that was fixed. Others have
mentioned the coil pack issues which are all gone. I have about 16,500
miles on mine and have found it to be everything I was hoping it would
be.
In general, the foreign cars I have owned (Volvos and VW's, mostly)
have all been as reliable as anything Japanese - I think the difference
is that the European cars really need to have the regular maintenance
done (oil changes, timing belts, etc.) whereas most Japanese cars you
can just drive them without regard to maintenance. Of course, how many
Accords with 150+ miles do you see, versus Audis, that are still being
driven? Not many.
I use only premium gas in my A4. I haven't tried a lower grade only
because here in NJ, premium is still below $2.00 a gallon and since I
work at home, I only fill up every 10 days to 2 weeks....
Good luck, I don't think you'll be disappointed with an Audi....
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
2003) and am glad I did it. I compared it with the Acura TSX and the
SAAB 9-3 when I was shopping. The 1.8T is great in manual transmission
form, but if you test drove a Tip, I can see how you'd feel it was a
little underpowered. While I have had a few minor annoyances (not
problems) they have all been fixed or are in the process of being fixed
under warranty. Glovebox door and rear seatbelt airbag sensor are
awaiting parts, and I had a sunroof rattle that was fixed. Others have
mentioned the coil pack issues which are all gone. I have about 16,500
miles on mine and have found it to be everything I was hoping it would
be.
In general, the foreign cars I have owned (Volvos and VW's, mostly)
have all been as reliable as anything Japanese - I think the difference
is that the European cars really need to have the regular maintenance
done (oil changes, timing belts, etc.) whereas most Japanese cars you
can just drive them without regard to maintenance. Of course, how many
Accords with 150+ miles do you see, versus Audis, that are still being
driven? Not many.
I use only premium gas in my A4. I haven't tried a lower grade only
because here in NJ, premium is still below $2.00 a gallon and since I
work at home, I only fill up every 10 days to 2 weeks....
Good luck, I don't think you'll be disappointed with an Audi....
Dan D
'04 A4 1.8Tq MT-6
Central NJ USA
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
Marty,
You'd be well advised to use the recommended octane gas for the car -
especially a turbo. Lower octane than recommended causes
knock~pinging~predetonation - which will cause internal engine damage if
left unaddressed. In turbo applications, it's also advisable to use
synthetic oil - true synthetic like Mobil1 - which, of course, is more
costly than regular oil. A look at the owner's manual will provide the info
on the min. octane gas recommended.
On the hybrid idea - Audi only investigated the Hybrid idea in concept.
They do make diesels, but you'd be hard pressed to find one on this side of
the pond.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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> Bob,
>
> Appreciate the help. What types of problems have you had? For me,
> it'll be the most expensive car I've owned. Never been in a position to
> have a new(er) car before, so obviously I want to do my homework before
> I plunk down the money for it. Repairs, can be costly, so obviously I'm
> very interested in their upkeep.
>
> The dealer told me that I must put premium gas in it. Several people at
> work drive them (and love them) but use regular gas. One person has a
> 99 and says he's put nothing but regular gas and it's never been an
> issue. Can there be heavy repairs associated with non-premium gas?
>
> I'm in the states and around here premium just spiked to about $2.20 vs
> $1.95 for non-premium. No Audi Hybrids yet, right?
>
> Thanks again!
> Marty
> (remove nospam in my email address to reply privately)
>
> eBob.com wrote:
> > Well ... I just bought my third one two weeks ago. The '95 A6 Quatro
wagon,
> > purchased used, had 140K+ miles on it when I traded it for a '98 A6
Quatro
> > Wagon, also purchased used, which had 148K miles on it when I sold it to
buy
> > the 2003 A6 Quatro Avant (Audi newspeak for wagon) two weeks ago.
> >
> > Sure, I've had problems. But none left me stranded. I think that
today's
> > cars, especially the Japanese cars, have gotten so reliable that even
cars
> > which are very reliable, on an absolute scale, can still be far down the
> > list.
> >
> > I stop going to an Audi dealer for service as soon as the warranty
expires.
> > My first attempt to find a reliable local mechanic failed. (Just
because
> > they have a German name and even a German accent does not make them good
> > Audi mechanics!) But on my second try I got lucky. The guy doesn't
seem to
> > take care of too many Audi's but he sure knows what he is doing. And
when
> > he isn't sure he tells me to go to a dealer. I've only had to do that
once
> > for a minor transmission leak.
> >
> > By the way, my mechanic bought my '98, for his wife and kids. That says
> > something about his opinion of Audis.
> >
> > My most serious complaint is lack of cup holders and cubby holes!
> >
> > Good Luck, Bob
> > "K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
> >>Hey everyone..
> >>
> >>I test drove an Audi 3.0 the other day and absolutely love it. I'm
> >>looking to get a used (certified) Audi soon and had some questions that
> >>I hope can be answered. Of course, the dealers always talk up their car
> >>-- they should, that's their job. I, of course, want honest answers and
> >>want to make sure I get a decent car.
> >>
> >>I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> >>the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> >>the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> >>electrical system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or
> >>newer cars, but still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty
> >>surprised at this as I've read user reviews on several car web sites and
> >>everyone seems pretty pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas
> >
> > mileage.
> >
> >>How reliable are these cars? A few local friends who are mechanics,
> >>have told me not to expect them to fix it because they've never worked
> >>on an Audi before, and have heard that they are pretty intricate (fancy
> >>word for expensive in this case). Consumer reports is pretty reliable
> >>and I am concerned that they didn't give it a more favorable rating.
> >>Are there specific models or model years that are more prone for
> >>failure/problems?
> >>
> >>The warranty seems pretty decent through certified dealerships -- up to
> >>100K miles or 6(?) years. To me that seemed pretty decent, actually.
> >>
> >>I test drove the 1.8 and didn't feel that that the car was very smooth.
> >> It felt as though it was pulling. I drove the 3.0 and loved it. I
> >>also see the 2.8 on the road, but don't understand the differences
> >>between the 2.8 and 3.0. Why the need for both?
> >>
> >>Lastly, I do like the car, but it will be the first time I've bought a
> >>"luxury" car, so obviously I'm concerned about the expense of fixing it
> >>should something go wrong. It's my understanding that parts are pretty
> >>much OEM only which does rack up the price quite a few bucks.
> >>
> >>I also test drove the Volvo S60 and didn't like it at all. Once I drove
> >>the Audi, I really liked it. Just looking for some feedback from fellow
> >>owners.
> >>
> >>If you reply privately please remove the "NOSPAM" from my email address.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
You'd be well advised to use the recommended octane gas for the car -
especially a turbo. Lower octane than recommended causes
knock~pinging~predetonation - which will cause internal engine damage if
left unaddressed. In turbo applications, it's also advisable to use
synthetic oil - true synthetic like Mobil1 - which, of course, is more
costly than regular oil. A look at the owner's manual will provide the info
on the min. octane gas recommended.
On the hybrid idea - Audi only investigated the Hybrid idea in concept.
They do make diesels, but you'd be hard pressed to find one on this side of
the pond.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bob,
>
> Appreciate the help. What types of problems have you had? For me,
> it'll be the most expensive car I've owned. Never been in a position to
> have a new(er) car before, so obviously I want to do my homework before
> I plunk down the money for it. Repairs, can be costly, so obviously I'm
> very interested in their upkeep.
>
> The dealer told me that I must put premium gas in it. Several people at
> work drive them (and love them) but use regular gas. One person has a
> 99 and says he's put nothing but regular gas and it's never been an
> issue. Can there be heavy repairs associated with non-premium gas?
>
> I'm in the states and around here premium just spiked to about $2.20 vs
> $1.95 for non-premium. No Audi Hybrids yet, right?
>
> Thanks again!
> Marty
> (remove nospam in my email address to reply privately)
>
> eBob.com wrote:
> > Well ... I just bought my third one two weeks ago. The '95 A6 Quatro
wagon,
> > purchased used, had 140K+ miles on it when I traded it for a '98 A6
Quatro
> > Wagon, also purchased used, which had 148K miles on it when I sold it to
buy
> > the 2003 A6 Quatro Avant (Audi newspeak for wagon) two weeks ago.
> >
> > Sure, I've had problems. But none left me stranded. I think that
today's
> > cars, especially the Japanese cars, have gotten so reliable that even
cars
> > which are very reliable, on an absolute scale, can still be far down the
> > list.
> >
> > I stop going to an Audi dealer for service as soon as the warranty
expires.
> > My first attempt to find a reliable local mechanic failed. (Just
because
> > they have a German name and even a German accent does not make them good
> > Audi mechanics!) But on my second try I got lucky. The guy doesn't
seem to
> > take care of too many Audi's but he sure knows what he is doing. And
when
> > he isn't sure he tells me to go to a dealer. I've only had to do that
once
> > for a minor transmission leak.
> >
> > By the way, my mechanic bought my '98, for his wife and kids. That says
> > something about his opinion of Audis.
> >
> > My most serious complaint is lack of cup holders and cubby holes!
> >
> > Good Luck, Bob
> > "K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
> >>Hey everyone..
> >>
> >>I test drove an Audi 3.0 the other day and absolutely love it. I'm
> >>looking to get a used (certified) Audi soon and had some questions that
> >>I hope can be answered. Of course, the dealers always talk up their car
> >>-- they should, that's their job. I, of course, want honest answers and
> >>want to make sure I get a decent car.
> >>
> >>I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> >>the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> >>the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> >>electrical system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or
> >>newer cars, but still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty
> >>surprised at this as I've read user reviews on several car web sites and
> >>everyone seems pretty pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas
> >
> > mileage.
> >
> >>How reliable are these cars? A few local friends who are mechanics,
> >>have told me not to expect them to fix it because they've never worked
> >>on an Audi before, and have heard that they are pretty intricate (fancy
> >>word for expensive in this case). Consumer reports is pretty reliable
> >>and I am concerned that they didn't give it a more favorable rating.
> >>Are there specific models or model years that are more prone for
> >>failure/problems?
> >>
> >>The warranty seems pretty decent through certified dealerships -- up to
> >>100K miles or 6(?) years. To me that seemed pretty decent, actually.
> >>
> >>I test drove the 1.8 and didn't feel that that the car was very smooth.
> >> It felt as though it was pulling. I drove the 3.0 and loved it. I
> >>also see the 2.8 on the road, but don't understand the differences
> >>between the 2.8 and 3.0. Why the need for both?
> >>
> >>Lastly, I do like the car, but it will be the first time I've bought a
> >>"luxury" car, so obviously I'm concerned about the expense of fixing it
> >>should something go wrong. It's my understanding that parts are pretty
> >>much OEM only which does rack up the price quite a few bucks.
> >>
> >>I also test drove the Volvo S60 and didn't like it at all. Once I drove
> >>the Audi, I really liked it. Just looking for some feedback from fellow
> >>owners.
> >>
> >>If you reply privately please remove the "NOSPAM" from my email address.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
#33
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
Marty,
You'd be well advised to use the recommended octane gas for the car -
especially a turbo. Lower octane than recommended causes
knock~pinging~predetonation - which will cause internal engine damage if
left unaddressed. In turbo applications, it's also advisable to use
synthetic oil - true synthetic like Mobil1 - which, of course, is more
costly than regular oil. A look at the owner's manual will provide the info
on the min. octane gas recommended.
On the hybrid idea - Audi only investigated the Hybrid idea in concept.
They do make diesels, but you'd be hard pressed to find one on this side of
the pond.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:l9hYd.3139$ZB6.1703@newssvr19.news.prodigy.co m...
> Bob,
>
> Appreciate the help. What types of problems have you had? For me,
> it'll be the most expensive car I've owned. Never been in a position to
> have a new(er) car before, so obviously I want to do my homework before
> I plunk down the money for it. Repairs, can be costly, so obviously I'm
> very interested in their upkeep.
>
> The dealer told me that I must put premium gas in it. Several people at
> work drive them (and love them) but use regular gas. One person has a
> 99 and says he's put nothing but regular gas and it's never been an
> issue. Can there be heavy repairs associated with non-premium gas?
>
> I'm in the states and around here premium just spiked to about $2.20 vs
> $1.95 for non-premium. No Audi Hybrids yet, right?
>
> Thanks again!
> Marty
> (remove nospam in my email address to reply privately)
>
> eBob.com wrote:
> > Well ... I just bought my third one two weeks ago. The '95 A6 Quatro
wagon,
> > purchased used, had 140K+ miles on it when I traded it for a '98 A6
Quatro
> > Wagon, also purchased used, which had 148K miles on it when I sold it to
buy
> > the 2003 A6 Quatro Avant (Audi newspeak for wagon) two weeks ago.
> >
> > Sure, I've had problems. But none left me stranded. I think that
today's
> > cars, especially the Japanese cars, have gotten so reliable that even
cars
> > which are very reliable, on an absolute scale, can still be far down the
> > list.
> >
> > I stop going to an Audi dealer for service as soon as the warranty
expires.
> > My first attempt to find a reliable local mechanic failed. (Just
because
> > they have a German name and even a German accent does not make them good
> > Audi mechanics!) But on my second try I got lucky. The guy doesn't
seem to
> > take care of too many Audi's but he sure knows what he is doing. And
when
> > he isn't sure he tells me to go to a dealer. I've only had to do that
once
> > for a minor transmission leak.
> >
> > By the way, my mechanic bought my '98, for his wife and kids. That says
> > something about his opinion of Audis.
> >
> > My most serious complaint is lack of cup holders and cubby holes!
> >
> > Good Luck, Bob
> > "K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
> >>Hey everyone..
> >>
> >>I test drove an Audi 3.0 the other day and absolutely love it. I'm
> >>looking to get a used (certified) Audi soon and had some questions that
> >>I hope can be answered. Of course, the dealers always talk up their car
> >>-- they should, that's their job. I, of course, want honest answers and
> >>want to make sure I get a decent car.
> >>
> >>I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> >>the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> >>the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> >>electrical system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or
> >>newer cars, but still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty
> >>surprised at this as I've read user reviews on several car web sites and
> >>everyone seems pretty pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas
> >
> > mileage.
> >
> >>How reliable are these cars? A few local friends who are mechanics,
> >>have told me not to expect them to fix it because they've never worked
> >>on an Audi before, and have heard that they are pretty intricate (fancy
> >>word for expensive in this case). Consumer reports is pretty reliable
> >>and I am concerned that they didn't give it a more favorable rating.
> >>Are there specific models or model years that are more prone for
> >>failure/problems?
> >>
> >>The warranty seems pretty decent through certified dealerships -- up to
> >>100K miles or 6(?) years. To me that seemed pretty decent, actually.
> >>
> >>I test drove the 1.8 and didn't feel that that the car was very smooth.
> >> It felt as though it was pulling. I drove the 3.0 and loved it. I
> >>also see the 2.8 on the road, but don't understand the differences
> >>between the 2.8 and 3.0. Why the need for both?
> >>
> >>Lastly, I do like the car, but it will be the first time I've bought a
> >>"luxury" car, so obviously I'm concerned about the expense of fixing it
> >>should something go wrong. It's my understanding that parts are pretty
> >>much OEM only which does rack up the price quite a few bucks.
> >>
> >>I also test drove the Volvo S60 and didn't like it at all. Once I drove
> >>the Audi, I really liked it. Just looking for some feedback from fellow
> >>owners.
> >>
> >>If you reply privately please remove the "NOSPAM" from my email address.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
You'd be well advised to use the recommended octane gas for the car -
especially a turbo. Lower octane than recommended causes
knock~pinging~predetonation - which will cause internal engine damage if
left unaddressed. In turbo applications, it's also advisable to use
synthetic oil - true synthetic like Mobil1 - which, of course, is more
costly than regular oil. A look at the owner's manual will provide the info
on the min. octane gas recommended.
On the hybrid idea - Audi only investigated the Hybrid idea in concept.
They do make diesels, but you'd be hard pressed to find one on this side of
the pond.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:l9hYd.3139$ZB6.1703@newssvr19.news.prodigy.co m...
> Bob,
>
> Appreciate the help. What types of problems have you had? For me,
> it'll be the most expensive car I've owned. Never been in a position to
> have a new(er) car before, so obviously I want to do my homework before
> I plunk down the money for it. Repairs, can be costly, so obviously I'm
> very interested in their upkeep.
>
> The dealer told me that I must put premium gas in it. Several people at
> work drive them (and love them) but use regular gas. One person has a
> 99 and says he's put nothing but regular gas and it's never been an
> issue. Can there be heavy repairs associated with non-premium gas?
>
> I'm in the states and around here premium just spiked to about $2.20 vs
> $1.95 for non-premium. No Audi Hybrids yet, right?
>
> Thanks again!
> Marty
> (remove nospam in my email address to reply privately)
>
> eBob.com wrote:
> > Well ... I just bought my third one two weeks ago. The '95 A6 Quatro
wagon,
> > purchased used, had 140K+ miles on it when I traded it for a '98 A6
Quatro
> > Wagon, also purchased used, which had 148K miles on it when I sold it to
buy
> > the 2003 A6 Quatro Avant (Audi newspeak for wagon) two weeks ago.
> >
> > Sure, I've had problems. But none left me stranded. I think that
today's
> > cars, especially the Japanese cars, have gotten so reliable that even
cars
> > which are very reliable, on an absolute scale, can still be far down the
> > list.
> >
> > I stop going to an Audi dealer for service as soon as the warranty
expires.
> > My first attempt to find a reliable local mechanic failed. (Just
because
> > they have a German name and even a German accent does not make them good
> > Audi mechanics!) But on my second try I got lucky. The guy doesn't
seem to
> > take care of too many Audi's but he sure knows what he is doing. And
when
> > he isn't sure he tells me to go to a dealer. I've only had to do that
once
> > for a minor transmission leak.
> >
> > By the way, my mechanic bought my '98, for his wife and kids. That says
> > something about his opinion of Audis.
> >
> > My most serious complaint is lack of cup holders and cubby holes!
> >
> > Good Luck, Bob
> > "K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
> >>Hey everyone..
> >>
> >>I test drove an Audi 3.0 the other day and absolutely love it. I'm
> >>looking to get a used (certified) Audi soon and had some questions that
> >>I hope can be answered. Of course, the dealers always talk up their car
> >>-- they should, that's their job. I, of course, want honest answers and
> >>want to make sure I get a decent car.
> >>
> >>I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> >>the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> >>the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> >>electrical system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or
> >>newer cars, but still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty
> >>surprised at this as I've read user reviews on several car web sites and
> >>everyone seems pretty pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas
> >
> > mileage.
> >
> >>How reliable are these cars? A few local friends who are mechanics,
> >>have told me not to expect them to fix it because they've never worked
> >>on an Audi before, and have heard that they are pretty intricate (fancy
> >>word for expensive in this case). Consumer reports is pretty reliable
> >>and I am concerned that they didn't give it a more favorable rating.
> >>Are there specific models or model years that are more prone for
> >>failure/problems?
> >>
> >>The warranty seems pretty decent through certified dealerships -- up to
> >>100K miles or 6(?) years. To me that seemed pretty decent, actually.
> >>
> >>I test drove the 1.8 and didn't feel that that the car was very smooth.
> >> It felt as though it was pulling. I drove the 3.0 and loved it. I
> >>also see the 2.8 on the road, but don't understand the differences
> >>between the 2.8 and 3.0. Why the need for both?
> >>
> >>Lastly, I do like the car, but it will be the first time I've bought a
> >>"luxury" car, so obviously I'm concerned about the expense of fixing it
> >>should something go wrong. It's my understanding that parts are pretty
> >>much OEM only which does rack up the price quite a few bucks.
> >>
> >>I also test drove the Volvo S60 and didn't like it at all. Once I drove
> >>the Audi, I really liked it. Just looking for some feedback from fellow
> >>owners.
> >>
> >>If you reply privately please remove the "NOSPAM" from my email address.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
Marty,
You'd be well advised to use the recommended octane gas for the car -
especially a turbo. Lower octane than recommended causes
knock~pinging~predetonation - which will cause internal engine damage if
left unaddressed. In turbo applications, it's also advisable to use
synthetic oil - true synthetic like Mobil1 - which, of course, is more
costly than regular oil. A look at the owner's manual will provide the info
on the min. octane gas recommended.
On the hybrid idea - Audi only investigated the Hybrid idea in concept.
They do make diesels, but you'd be hard pressed to find one on this side of
the pond.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:l9hYd.3139$ZB6.1703@newssvr19.news.prodigy.co m...
> Bob,
>
> Appreciate the help. What types of problems have you had? For me,
> it'll be the most expensive car I've owned. Never been in a position to
> have a new(er) car before, so obviously I want to do my homework before
> I plunk down the money for it. Repairs, can be costly, so obviously I'm
> very interested in their upkeep.
>
> The dealer told me that I must put premium gas in it. Several people at
> work drive them (and love them) but use regular gas. One person has a
> 99 and says he's put nothing but regular gas and it's never been an
> issue. Can there be heavy repairs associated with non-premium gas?
>
> I'm in the states and around here premium just spiked to about $2.20 vs
> $1.95 for non-premium. No Audi Hybrids yet, right?
>
> Thanks again!
> Marty
> (remove nospam in my email address to reply privately)
>
> eBob.com wrote:
> > Well ... I just bought my third one two weeks ago. The '95 A6 Quatro
wagon,
> > purchased used, had 140K+ miles on it when I traded it for a '98 A6
Quatro
> > Wagon, also purchased used, which had 148K miles on it when I sold it to
buy
> > the 2003 A6 Quatro Avant (Audi newspeak for wagon) two weeks ago.
> >
> > Sure, I've had problems. But none left me stranded. I think that
today's
> > cars, especially the Japanese cars, have gotten so reliable that even
cars
> > which are very reliable, on an absolute scale, can still be far down the
> > list.
> >
> > I stop going to an Audi dealer for service as soon as the warranty
expires.
> > My first attempt to find a reliable local mechanic failed. (Just
because
> > they have a German name and even a German accent does not make them good
> > Audi mechanics!) But on my second try I got lucky. The guy doesn't
seem to
> > take care of too many Audi's but he sure knows what he is doing. And
when
> > he isn't sure he tells me to go to a dealer. I've only had to do that
once
> > for a minor transmission leak.
> >
> > By the way, my mechanic bought my '98, for his wife and kids. That says
> > something about his opinion of Audis.
> >
> > My most serious complaint is lack of cup holders and cubby holes!
> >
> > Good Luck, Bob
> > "K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
> >>Hey everyone..
> >>
> >>I test drove an Audi 3.0 the other day and absolutely love it. I'm
> >>looking to get a used (certified) Audi soon and had some questions that
> >>I hope can be answered. Of course, the dealers always talk up their car
> >>-- they should, that's their job. I, of course, want honest answers and
> >>want to make sure I get a decent car.
> >>
> >>I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> >>the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> >>the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> >>electrical system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or
> >>newer cars, but still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty
> >>surprised at this as I've read user reviews on several car web sites and
> >>everyone seems pretty pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas
> >
> > mileage.
> >
> >>How reliable are these cars? A few local friends who are mechanics,
> >>have told me not to expect them to fix it because they've never worked
> >>on an Audi before, and have heard that they are pretty intricate (fancy
> >>word for expensive in this case). Consumer reports is pretty reliable
> >>and I am concerned that they didn't give it a more favorable rating.
> >>Are there specific models or model years that are more prone for
> >>failure/problems?
> >>
> >>The warranty seems pretty decent through certified dealerships -- up to
> >>100K miles or 6(?) years. To me that seemed pretty decent, actually.
> >>
> >>I test drove the 1.8 and didn't feel that that the car was very smooth.
> >> It felt as though it was pulling. I drove the 3.0 and loved it. I
> >>also see the 2.8 on the road, but don't understand the differences
> >>between the 2.8 and 3.0. Why the need for both?
> >>
> >>Lastly, I do like the car, but it will be the first time I've bought a
> >>"luxury" car, so obviously I'm concerned about the expense of fixing it
> >>should something go wrong. It's my understanding that parts are pretty
> >>much OEM only which does rack up the price quite a few bucks.
> >>
> >>I also test drove the Volvo S60 and didn't like it at all. Once I drove
> >>the Audi, I really liked it. Just looking for some feedback from fellow
> >>owners.
> >>
> >>If you reply privately please remove the "NOSPAM" from my email address.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
You'd be well advised to use the recommended octane gas for the car -
especially a turbo. Lower octane than recommended causes
knock~pinging~predetonation - which will cause internal engine damage if
left unaddressed. In turbo applications, it's also advisable to use
synthetic oil - true synthetic like Mobil1 - which, of course, is more
costly than regular oil. A look at the owner's manual will provide the info
on the min. octane gas recommended.
On the hybrid idea - Audi only investigated the Hybrid idea in concept.
They do make diesels, but you'd be hard pressed to find one on this side of
the pond.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:l9hYd.3139$ZB6.1703@newssvr19.news.prodigy.co m...
> Bob,
>
> Appreciate the help. What types of problems have you had? For me,
> it'll be the most expensive car I've owned. Never been in a position to
> have a new(er) car before, so obviously I want to do my homework before
> I plunk down the money for it. Repairs, can be costly, so obviously I'm
> very interested in their upkeep.
>
> The dealer told me that I must put premium gas in it. Several people at
> work drive them (and love them) but use regular gas. One person has a
> 99 and says he's put nothing but regular gas and it's never been an
> issue. Can there be heavy repairs associated with non-premium gas?
>
> I'm in the states and around here premium just spiked to about $2.20 vs
> $1.95 for non-premium. No Audi Hybrids yet, right?
>
> Thanks again!
> Marty
> (remove nospam in my email address to reply privately)
>
> eBob.com wrote:
> > Well ... I just bought my third one two weeks ago. The '95 A6 Quatro
wagon,
> > purchased used, had 140K+ miles on it when I traded it for a '98 A6
Quatro
> > Wagon, also purchased used, which had 148K miles on it when I sold it to
buy
> > the 2003 A6 Quatro Avant (Audi newspeak for wagon) two weeks ago.
> >
> > Sure, I've had problems. But none left me stranded. I think that
today's
> > cars, especially the Japanese cars, have gotten so reliable that even
cars
> > which are very reliable, on an absolute scale, can still be far down the
> > list.
> >
> > I stop going to an Audi dealer for service as soon as the warranty
expires.
> > My first attempt to find a reliable local mechanic failed. (Just
because
> > they have a German name and even a German accent does not make them good
> > Audi mechanics!) But on my second try I got lucky. The guy doesn't
seem to
> > take care of too many Audi's but he sure knows what he is doing. And
when
> > he isn't sure he tells me to go to a dealer. I've only had to do that
once
> > for a minor transmission leak.
> >
> > By the way, my mechanic bought my '98, for his wife and kids. That says
> > something about his opinion of Audis.
> >
> > My most serious complaint is lack of cup holders and cubby holes!
> >
> > Good Luck, Bob
> > "K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com ...
> >
> >>Hey everyone..
> >>
> >>I test drove an Audi 3.0 the other day and absolutely love it. I'm
> >>looking to get a used (certified) Audi soon and had some questions that
> >>I hope can be answered. Of course, the dealers always talk up their car
> >>-- they should, that's their job. I, of course, want honest answers and
> >>want to make sure I get a decent car.
> >>
> >>I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> >>the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> >>the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> >>electrical system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or
> >>newer cars, but still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty
> >>surprised at this as I've read user reviews on several car web sites and
> >>everyone seems pretty pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas
> >
> > mileage.
> >
> >>How reliable are these cars? A few local friends who are mechanics,
> >>have told me not to expect them to fix it because they've never worked
> >>on an Audi before, and have heard that they are pretty intricate (fancy
> >>word for expensive in this case). Consumer reports is pretty reliable
> >>and I am concerned that they didn't give it a more favorable rating.
> >>Are there specific models or model years that are more prone for
> >>failure/problems?
> >>
> >>The warranty seems pretty decent through certified dealerships -- up to
> >>100K miles or 6(?) years. To me that seemed pretty decent, actually.
> >>
> >>I test drove the 1.8 and didn't feel that that the car was very smooth.
> >> It felt as though it was pulling. I drove the 3.0 and loved it. I
> >>also see the 2.8 on the road, but don't understand the differences
> >>between the 2.8 and 3.0. Why the need for both?
> >>
> >>Lastly, I do like the car, but it will be the first time I've bought a
> >>"luxury" car, so obviously I'm concerned about the expense of fixing it
> >>should something go wrong. It's my understanding that parts are pretty
> >>much OEM only which does rack up the price quite a few bucks.
> >>
> >>I also test drove the Volvo S60 and didn't like it at all. Once I drove
> >>the Audi, I really liked it. Just looking for some feedback from fellow
> >>owners.
> >>
> >>If you reply privately please remove the "NOSPAM" from my email address.
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
In article <mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> electrical system, either.
I just hit 100K miles on my 2000 1.8T A4 last week. It has by far
been the most enjoyable AND dependable car I've ever owned. I've
had new Hondas, Toyotas, Volvos and others. The Audi still drives
as tight and fun as mile 1. There's been some issues, but none
with engine or electrical, mostly brakes and wheel bearings. I'll
buy another Audi in a instant.
--
- Kyle
"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> electrical system, either.
I just hit 100K miles on my 2000 1.8T A4 last week. It has by far
been the most enjoyable AND dependable car I've ever owned. I've
had new Hondas, Toyotas, Volvos and others. The Audi still drives
as tight and fun as mile 1. There's been some issues, but none
with engine or electrical, mostly brakes and wheel bearings. I'll
buy another Audi in a instant.
--
- Kyle
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
In article <mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> electrical system, either.
I just hit 100K miles on my 2000 1.8T A4 last week. It has by far
been the most enjoyable AND dependable car I've ever owned. I've
had new Hondas, Toyotas, Volvos and others. The Audi still drives
as tight and fun as mile 1. There's been some issues, but none
with engine or electrical, mostly brakes and wheel bearings. I'll
buy another Audi in a instant.
--
- Kyle
"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> electrical system, either.
I just hit 100K miles on my 2000 1.8T A4 last week. It has by far
been the most enjoyable AND dependable car I've ever owned. I've
had new Hondas, Toyotas, Volvos and others. The Audi still drives
as tight and fun as mile 1. There's been some issues, but none
with engine or electrical, mostly brakes and wheel bearings. I'll
buy another Audi in a instant.
--
- Kyle
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
In article <mz3Yd.8149$DW.6879@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> electrical system, either.
I just hit 100K miles on my 2000 1.8T A4 last week. It has by far
been the most enjoyable AND dependable car I've ever owned. I've
had new Hondas, Toyotas, Volvos and others. The Audi still drives
as tight and fun as mile 1. There's been some issues, but none
with engine or electrical, mostly brakes and wheel bearings. I'll
buy another Audi in a instant.
--
- Kyle
"K. Daver" <duckie74NOSPAM@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of
> the Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while
> the rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the
> electrical system, either.
I just hit 100K miles on my 2000 1.8T A4 last week. It has by far
been the most enjoyable AND dependable car I've ever owned. I've
had new Hondas, Toyotas, Volvos and others. The Audi still drives
as tight and fun as mile 1. There's been some issues, but none
with engine or electrical, mostly brakes and wheel bearings. I'll
buy another Audi in a instant.
--
- Kyle
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of the
Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while the
rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the electrical
system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or newer cars, but
still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty surprised at this as
I've read user reviews on several car web sites and everyone seems pretty
pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas mileage.
While I understand why people like consumer reports I have a problem with
some of their conclusions. The A4 is rated as a "stay away" but the Ford
focus, to name one, is rated as a very good buy, yet they've had about ten
or so recalls on them in the last year alone, I fail to see this a reliable
car or a good buy! I could go on and on about other things that they report
on that I don't agree with but this is not the time or place. As far as
Audi's go I've found that as long as the maintenance is done you'll very
really have a problem. If however you never want to check the oil, change
the air or fuel filters or other general maintenance your better off buying
a different car. I've only had one major problem with an Audi. That was my
97 A6q needed a new head gasket, but then again I knew that there would be
some problems with it before I bought it, hence why it was as cheap($9,000
in 2000 from and auction) The car had already had 6 owners before that. So
it was treated really poorly. Now it runs and drives fine 200,000 miles on
it to date.My other Audis have had no problems.
1982 4000s 100,000 miles
1983 4000s 150,000 miles
1984 4000s 256,000 miles
1985 5000s 183,000 miles
1987 5000s 236,000 miles
1997 A6q 200,000 miles
Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while the
rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the electrical
system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or newer cars, but
still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty surprised at this as
I've read user reviews on several car web sites and everyone seems pretty
pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas mileage.
While I understand why people like consumer reports I have a problem with
some of their conclusions. The A4 is rated as a "stay away" but the Ford
focus, to name one, is rated as a very good buy, yet they've had about ten
or so recalls on them in the last year alone, I fail to see this a reliable
car or a good buy! I could go on and on about other things that they report
on that I don't agree with but this is not the time or place. As far as
Audi's go I've found that as long as the maintenance is done you'll very
really have a problem. If however you never want to check the oil, change
the air or fuel filters or other general maintenance your better off buying
a different car. I've only had one major problem with an Audi. That was my
97 A6q needed a new head gasket, but then again I knew that there would be
some problems with it before I bought it, hence why it was as cheap($9,000
in 2000 from and auction) The car had already had 6 owners before that. So
it was treated really poorly. Now it runs and drives fine 200,000 miles on
it to date.My other Audis have had no problems.
1982 4000s 100,000 miles
1983 4000s 150,000 miles
1984 4000s 256,000 miles
1985 5000s 183,000 miles
1987 5000s 236,000 miles
1997 A6q 200,000 miles
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of the
Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while the
rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the electrical
system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or newer cars, but
still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty surprised at this as
I've read user reviews on several car web sites and everyone seems pretty
pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas mileage.
While I understand why people like consumer reports I have a problem with
some of their conclusions. The A4 is rated as a "stay away" but the Ford
focus, to name one, is rated as a very good buy, yet they've had about ten
or so recalls on them in the last year alone, I fail to see this a reliable
car or a good buy! I could go on and on about other things that they report
on that I don't agree with but this is not the time or place. As far as
Audi's go I've found that as long as the maintenance is done you'll very
really have a problem. If however you never want to check the oil, change
the air or fuel filters or other general maintenance your better off buying
a different car. I've only had one major problem with an Audi. That was my
97 A6q needed a new head gasket, but then again I knew that there would be
some problems with it before I bought it, hence why it was as cheap($9,000
in 2000 from and auction) The car had already had 6 owners before that. So
it was treated really poorly. Now it runs and drives fine 200,000 miles on
it to date.My other Audis have had no problems.
1982 4000s 100,000 miles
1983 4000s 150,000 miles
1984 4000s 256,000 miles
1985 5000s 183,000 miles
1987 5000s 236,000 miles
1997 A6q 200,000 miles
Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while the
rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the electrical
system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or newer cars, but
still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty surprised at this as
I've read user reviews on several car web sites and everyone seems pretty
pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas mileage.
While I understand why people like consumer reports I have a problem with
some of their conclusions. The A4 is rated as a "stay away" but the Ford
focus, to name one, is rated as a very good buy, yet they've had about ten
or so recalls on them in the last year alone, I fail to see this a reliable
car or a good buy! I could go on and on about other things that they report
on that I don't agree with but this is not the time or place. As far as
Audi's go I've found that as long as the maintenance is done you'll very
really have a problem. If however you never want to check the oil, change
the air or fuel filters or other general maintenance your better off buying
a different car. I've only had one major problem with an Audi. That was my
97 A6q needed a new head gasket, but then again I knew that there would be
some problems with it before I bought it, hence why it was as cheap($9,000
in 2000 from and auction) The car had already had 6 owners before that. So
it was treated really poorly. Now it runs and drives fine 200,000 miles on
it to date.My other Audis have had no problems.
1982 4000s 100,000 miles
1983 4000s 150,000 miles
1984 4000s 256,000 miles
1985 5000s 183,000 miles
1987 5000s 236,000 miles
1997 A6q 200,000 miles
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Re: Audi questions from a perspective buyer
I was reading consumer reports and they didn't really speak highly of the
Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while the
rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the electrical
system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or newer cars, but
still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty surprised at this as
I've read user reviews on several car web sites and everyone seems pretty
pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas mileage.
While I understand why people like consumer reports I have a problem with
some of their conclusions. The A4 is rated as a "stay away" but the Ford
focus, to name one, is rated as a very good buy, yet they've had about ten
or so recalls on them in the last year alone, I fail to see this a reliable
car or a good buy! I could go on and on about other things that they report
on that I don't agree with but this is not the time or place. As far as
Audi's go I've found that as long as the maintenance is done you'll very
really have a problem. If however you never want to check the oil, change
the air or fuel filters or other general maintenance your better off buying
a different car. I've only had one major problem with an Audi. That was my
97 A6q needed a new head gasket, but then again I knew that there would be
some problems with it before I bought it, hence why it was as cheap($9,000
in 2000 from and auction) The car had already had 6 owners before that. So
it was treated really poorly. Now it runs and drives fine 200,000 miles on
it to date.My other Audis have had no problems.
1982 4000s 100,000 miles
1983 4000s 150,000 miles
1984 4000s 256,000 miles
1985 5000s 183,000 miles
1987 5000s 236,000 miles
1997 A6q 200,000 miles
Audi. They rated the 2002 as having a lot of engine problems, while the
rest of the car did fairly well. It didn't do so well in the electrical
system, either. It didn't mention anything on the 2003 or newer cars, but
still rated the Audi as a "stay away". I was pretty surprised at this as
I've read user reviews on several car web sites and everyone seems pretty
pleased, with the exception of maybe the gas mileage.
While I understand why people like consumer reports I have a problem with
some of their conclusions. The A4 is rated as a "stay away" but the Ford
focus, to name one, is rated as a very good buy, yet they've had about ten
or so recalls on them in the last year alone, I fail to see this a reliable
car or a good buy! I could go on and on about other things that they report
on that I don't agree with but this is not the time or place. As far as
Audi's go I've found that as long as the maintenance is done you'll very
really have a problem. If however you never want to check the oil, change
the air or fuel filters or other general maintenance your better off buying
a different car. I've only had one major problem with an Audi. That was my
97 A6q needed a new head gasket, but then again I knew that there would be
some problems with it before I bought it, hence why it was as cheap($9,000
in 2000 from and auction) The car had already had 6 owners before that. So
it was treated really poorly. Now it runs and drives fine 200,000 miles on
it to date.My other Audis have had no problems.
1982 4000s 100,000 miles
1983 4000s 150,000 miles
1984 4000s 256,000 miles
1985 5000s 183,000 miles
1987 5000s 236,000 miles
1997 A6q 200,000 miles