Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
12-29-2006, 07:31 AM
#41
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
<news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>
>> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> switch to prevent
>> limp-home, for example."
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>
Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
(OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
brake lights on any. <bg>)
<news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>
>> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> switch to prevent
>> limp-home, for example."
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>>
>IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>
Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
(OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
brake lights on any. <bg>)
01-02-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
PeterD wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
> >> switch to prevent
> >> limp-home, for example."
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bill
> >>
> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
> >
>
> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>
> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
> brake lights on any. <bg>)
Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
don't have those systems installed.
Keep it coming.
Bill
01-02-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
PeterD wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
> >> switch to prevent
> >> limp-home, for example."
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bill
> >>
> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
> >
>
> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>
> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
> brake lights on any. <bg>)
Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
don't have those systems installed.
Keep it coming.
Bill
01-02-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
PeterD wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
> >> switch to prevent
> >> limp-home, for example."
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bill
> >>
> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
> >
>
> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>
> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
> brake lights on any. <bg>)
Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
don't have those systems installed.
Keep it coming.
Bill
01-02-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
PeterD wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
> >> switch to prevent
> >> limp-home, for example."
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bill
> >>
> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
> >
>
> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>
> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
> brake lights on any. <bg>)
Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
don't have those systems installed.
Keep it coming.
Bill
01-02-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
On 2 Jan 2007 06:43:18 -0800, "bbutlergps" <billbutlergps@aol.com>
wrote:
>
>PeterD wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
>> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> >> switch to prevent
>> >> limp-home, for example."
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>> >
>>
>> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>>
>> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
>> brake lights on any. <bg>)
>
>Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
>No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
>that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
>don't have those systems installed.
>Keep it coming.
>Bill
Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
equipment such as fork lifts?
wrote:
>
>PeterD wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
>> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> >> switch to prevent
>> >> limp-home, for example."
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>> >
>>
>> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>>
>> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
>> brake lights on any. <bg>)
>
>Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
>No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
>that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
>don't have those systems installed.
>Keep it coming.
>Bill
Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
equipment such as fork lifts?
01-02-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
On 2 Jan 2007 06:43:18 -0800, "bbutlergps" <billbutlergps@aol.com>
wrote:
>
>PeterD wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
>> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> >> switch to prevent
>> >> limp-home, for example."
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>> >
>>
>> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>>
>> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
>> brake lights on any. <bg>)
>
>Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
>No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
>that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
>don't have those systems installed.
>Keep it coming.
>Bill
Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
equipment such as fork lifts?
wrote:
>
>PeterD wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
>> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> >> switch to prevent
>> >> limp-home, for example."
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>> >
>>
>> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>>
>> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
>> brake lights on any. <bg>)
>
>Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
>No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
>that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
>don't have those systems installed.
>Keep it coming.
>Bill
Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
equipment such as fork lifts?
01-02-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
On 2 Jan 2007 06:43:18 -0800, "bbutlergps" <billbutlergps@aol.com>
wrote:
>
>PeterD wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
>> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> >> switch to prevent
>> >> limp-home, for example."
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>> >
>>
>> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>>
>> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
>> brake lights on any. <bg>)
>
>Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
>No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
>that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
>don't have those systems installed.
>Keep it coming.
>Bill
Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
equipment such as fork lifts?
wrote:
>
>PeterD wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
>> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> >> switch to prevent
>> >> limp-home, for example."
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>> >
>>
>> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>>
>> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
>> brake lights on any. <bg>)
>
>Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
>No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
>that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
>don't have those systems installed.
>Keep it coming.
>Bill
Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
equipment such as fork lifts?
01-02-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
On 2 Jan 2007 06:43:18 -0800, "bbutlergps" <billbutlergps@aol.com>
wrote:
>
>PeterD wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
>> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> >> switch to prevent
>> >> limp-home, for example."
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>> >
>>
>> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>>
>> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
>> brake lights on any. <bg>)
>
>Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
>No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
>that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
>don't have those systems installed.
>Keep it coming.
>Bill
Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
equipment such as fork lifts?
wrote:
>
>PeterD wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
>> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
>> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
>> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
>> >> switch to prevent
>> >> limp-home, for example."
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
>> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
>> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
>> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
>> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
>> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
>> >
>>
>> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
>>
>> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
>> brake lights on any. <bg>)
>
>Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
>No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
>that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
>don't have those systems installed.
>Keep it coming.
>Bill
Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
equipment such as fork lifts?
01-03-2007, 10:29 AM
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Re: Audi A2 / VW Lupo 3 cyl. 1.2 Turbo Diesel
PeterD wrote:
> On 2 Jan 2007 06:43:18 -0800, "bbutlergps" <billbutlergps@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >PeterD wrote:
> >> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:19:45 +0000, Chris Bartram
> >> <news@delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >> I looked into the industrial engine route on the VW and the only one I
> >> >> could find is the 1.9 which is too heavy.
> >> >> Could you explain "the like fooling the ECU it has a clutch and brake
> >> >> switch to prevent
> >> >> limp-home, for example."
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Bill
> >> >>
> >> >IIRC there's 2 brakelight switches, and a clutch switch. The clutch
> >> >switch could be ignored, probably, but with the brake switches you need
> >> >to make sure the ECU doesn't think there's a fault. I believe it
> >> >compares the 2 switches, and if one is different, throws a check engine
> >> >lamp. This may or may not reduce power- I can't remember. I do know that
> >> >a very common cause of the check light is a blown brake bulb....
> >> >
> >>
> >> Humm, putting a brake pedal on an airplane... <g> That's interesting!
> >>
> >> (OK, full sized planes do have brakes, but I don't think I've seen
> >> brake lights on any. <bg>)
> >
> >Haven't you heard of "air brakes"?
> >No, what he is talking about is I need to consider "fooling" the ECU
> >that all is well with the brakes and clutch systems, even though they
> >don't have those systems installed.
> >Keep it coming.
> >Bill
>
> Drag chute! Just like on the fighter planes.
>
> I keep wondering if this engine might be used in any industrial
> equipment such as fork lifts?
I don't know about the 1.2 but the larger 1.6 or 1.9 does have an
industrail VW engine. VW has an industrail engine page however it is
cast block and it weighs too much.
Bill
