Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
Dan J.S. wrote:
> "Asfwindsor" <asfwindsor@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>>
>>Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>
>>H Castorp
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> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
Too bad it's so ugly.
--
Mike Smith
> "Asfwindsor" <asfwindsor@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>>
>>Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>
>>H Castorp
>
>
> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
Too bad it's so ugly.
--
Mike Smith
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
Dan J.S. wrote:
> "Asfwindsor" <asfwindsor@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041207155725.07572.00001849@mb-m01.aol.com...
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>>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>>
>>Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>
>>H Castorp
>
>
> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
Too bad it's so ugly.
--
Mike Smith
> "Asfwindsor" <asfwindsor@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041207155725.07572.00001849@mb-m01.aol.com...
>
>>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>>
>>Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>
>>H Castorp
>
>
> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
Too bad it's so ugly.
--
Mike Smith
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
Dan J.S. wrote:
> "Asfwindsor" <asfwindsor@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041207155725.07572.00001849@mb-m01.aol.com...
>
>>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>>
>>Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>
>>H Castorp
>
>
> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
Too bad it's so ugly.
--
Mike Smith
> "Asfwindsor" <asfwindsor@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041207155725.07572.00001849@mb-m01.aol.com...
>
>>I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi Quattro A4.
>>
>>Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>
>>H Castorp
>
>
> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
Too bad it's so ugly.
--
Mike Smith
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
>Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>
>
I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve Grauman
>
>
I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve Grauman
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
>Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>
>
I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve Grauman
>
>
I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve Grauman
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
>Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>
>
I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve Grauman
>
>
I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve Grauman
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
On 08 Dec 2004 21:35:52 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
>uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
>been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
>aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
>and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
>can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
>7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
>AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
>and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
>that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
>only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve, as usual, is right. I love BMW as much as the next person (the
motorcycles are my thing, actually, more than the cars), but the Audi
is more affordable and appropriate for my life in western New York
winters, and my 98.5 A4 has been trouble-free for the most part. No,
I wasn't amused by the rear bearing failures (one last year, one this
year), but that's not the same as control arm failures, which I have
not experienced, and the car has been rock solid reliable in terms of
electrical and engine functions. Maybe I got a midweek built car. I
love this machine and will probably drive it to the ground.
>I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
>uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
>been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
>aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
>and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
>can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
>7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
>AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
>and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
>that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
>only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve, as usual, is right. I love BMW as much as the next person (the
motorcycles are my thing, actually, more than the cars), but the Audi
is more affordable and appropriate for my life in western New York
winters, and my 98.5 A4 has been trouble-free for the most part. No,
I wasn't amused by the rear bearing failures (one last year, one this
year), but that's not the same as control arm failures, which I have
not experienced, and the car has been rock solid reliable in terms of
electrical and engine functions. Maybe I got a midweek built car. I
love this machine and will probably drive it to the ground.
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
On 08 Dec 2004 21:35:52 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
>uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
>been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
>aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
>and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
>can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
>7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
>AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
>and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
>that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
>only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve, as usual, is right. I love BMW as much as the next person (the
motorcycles are my thing, actually, more than the cars), but the Audi
is more affordable and appropriate for my life in western New York
winters, and my 98.5 A4 has been trouble-free for the most part. No,
I wasn't amused by the rear bearing failures (one last year, one this
year), but that's not the same as control arm failures, which I have
not experienced, and the car has been rock solid reliable in terms of
electrical and engine functions. Maybe I got a midweek built car. I
love this machine and will probably drive it to the ground.
>I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
>uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
>been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
>aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
>and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
>can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
>7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
>AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
>and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
>that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
>only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve, as usual, is right. I love BMW as much as the next person (the
motorcycles are my thing, actually, more than the cars), but the Audi
is more affordable and appropriate for my life in western New York
winters, and my 98.5 A4 has been trouble-free for the most part. No,
I wasn't amused by the rear bearing failures (one last year, one this
year), but that's not the same as control arm failures, which I have
not experienced, and the car has been rock solid reliable in terms of
electrical and engine functions. Maybe I got a midweek built car. I
love this machine and will probably drive it to the ground.
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
On 08 Dec 2004 21:35:52 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
>uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
>been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
>aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
>and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
>can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
>7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
>AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
>and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
>that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
>only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve, as usual, is right. I love BMW as much as the next person (the
motorcycles are my thing, actually, more than the cars), but the Audi
is more affordable and appropriate for my life in western New York
winters, and my 98.5 A4 has been trouble-free for the most part. No,
I wasn't amused by the rear bearing failures (one last year, one this
year), but that's not the same as control arm failures, which I have
not experienced, and the car has been rock solid reliable in terms of
electrical and engine functions. Maybe I got a midweek built car. I
love this machine and will probably drive it to the ground.
>I'm not aware of any mass claims that the 3-series is a problematic vehicle. My
>uncle had 3 of them before moving into the 5-series he just bought and they've
>been problem free thus far. However iDrive is a bitch. I'm well aware of claims
>aganist the A4 but my father's B5 2.8 went over 60,000 miles with no problems,
>and my 1.8t powered GTi is trouble free as well. The IS is great little car, it
>can out-handle the 3-series and matches the class average 0-60 time of around
>7.0 seconds. But it's rear seat is even more cramped than the A4's and it lacks
>AWD. The AWD version of the G35 can match or beat any of them for performance
>and costs less. Slightly over-zealous brakes, but that's not the worst thing
>that could happen. However, I still prefer Audi's interiors and Quattro is the
>only truly proven system in the lot.
Steve, as usual, is right. I love BMW as much as the next person (the
motorcycles are my thing, actually, more than the cars), but the Audi
is more affordable and appropriate for my life in western New York
winters, and my 98.5 A4 has been trouble-free for the most part. No,
I wasn't amused by the rear bearing failures (one last year, one this
year), but that's not the same as control arm failures, which I have
not experienced, and the car has been rock solid reliable in terms of
electrical and engine functions. Maybe I got a midweek built car. I
love this machine and will probably drive it to the ground.
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Re: Audi 4 vs. Bmw 3 Series
Mike Smith wrote:
> Dan J.S. wrote:
>
>> "Asfwindsor" <asfwindsor@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20041207155725.07572.00001849@mb-m01.aol.com...
>>
>>> I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi
>>> Quattro A4. Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>>
>>> H Castorp
>>
>>
>> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>
> Too bad it's so ugly.
Well, its not that bad. Audi is a pretty car! By far probably the best
looking. I am not sure what happened to the Germans, cars that used to be
rock solid are a thing of the past.
> Dan J.S. wrote:
>
>> "Asfwindsor" <asfwindsor@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20041207155725.07572.00001849@mb-m01.aol.com...
>>
>>> I am considering a used 3 Series, maybe the Xi model or an Audi
>>> Quattro A4. Thoughts, opinions and facts are appreciated.
>>>
>>> H Castorp
>>
>>
>> Both unreliable. Get a Lexus IS.
>
> Too bad it's so ugly.
Well, its not that bad. Audi is a pretty car! By far probably the best
looking. I am not sure what happened to the Germans, cars that used to be
rock solid are a thing of the past.