Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
10-14-2004, 10:29 AM
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
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"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
[Snip]
> Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
>
> (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> second inlet)
Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
old Cortina.
But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
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Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
>
> > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
[Snip]
> Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
>
> (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> second inlet)
Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
old Cortina.
But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
10-15-2004, 03:20 AM
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <Zlwbd.69$wy5.6@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
> >
> > > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> > gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
> >
> > (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> > second inlet)
>
> Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
> old Cortina.
>
> But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
To be perfectly honest, I can't remember.
The two-stage thing sounds a lot like a twin-choke, though.. you would need
either an (IMV, unnecessarily) complicated twin-spring mechanism or a rather
special multi-wind return spring to duplicate this for injection.
The timing's certainly right..
H1K
news:5621cefd4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
> In message <Zlwbd.69$wy5.6@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
> >
> > > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> > gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
> >
> > (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> > second inlet)
>
> Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
> old Cortina.
>
> But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
To be perfectly honest, I can't remember.
The two-stage thing sounds a lot like a twin-choke, though.. you would need
either an (IMV, unnecessarily) complicated twin-spring mechanism or a rather
special multi-wind return spring to duplicate this for injection.
The timing's certainly right..
H1K
10-15-2004, 03:20 AM
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <Zlwbd.69$wy5.6@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
> >
> > > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> > gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
> >
> > (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> > second inlet)
>
> Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
> old Cortina.
>
> But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
To be perfectly honest, I can't remember.
The two-stage thing sounds a lot like a twin-choke, though.. you would need
either an (IMV, unnecessarily) complicated twin-spring mechanism or a rather
special multi-wind return spring to duplicate this for injection.
The timing's certainly right..
H1K
news:5621cefd4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
> In message <Zlwbd.69$wy5.6@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
> >
> > > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> > gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
> >
> > (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> > second inlet)
>
> Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
> old Cortina.
>
> But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
To be perfectly honest, I can't remember.
The two-stage thing sounds a lot like a twin-choke, though.. you would need
either an (IMV, unnecessarily) complicated twin-spring mechanism or a rather
special multi-wind return spring to duplicate this for injection.
The timing's certainly right..
H1K
10-18-2004, 08:08 AM
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
Peter,
The earlier fuel injection had a second throttlebody bore and butterfly. My
1980 5k has it.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <Zlwbd.69$wy5.6@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
> >
> > > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> > gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
> >
> > (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> > second inlet)
>
> Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
> old Cortina.
>
> But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
>
> --
> Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with
'bellfamily')
The earlier fuel injection had a second throttlebody bore and butterfly. My
1980 5k has it.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <Zlwbd.69$wy5.6@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
> >
> > > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> > gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
> >
> > (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> > second inlet)
>
> Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
> old Cortina.
>
> But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
>
> --
> Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with
'bellfamily')
10-18-2004, 08:08 AM
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
Peter,
The earlier fuel injection had a second throttlebody bore and butterfly. My
1980 5k has it.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
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"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <Zlwbd.69$wy5.6@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
> >
> > > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> > gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
> >
> > (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> > second inlet)
>
> Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
> old Cortina.
>
> But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
>
> --
> Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with
'bellfamily')
The earlier fuel injection had a second throttlebody bore and butterfly. My
1980 5k has it.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ
1980 Audi 5k
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes
(SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
"Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <Zlwbd.69$wy5.6@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net>
> "Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
>
> > "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
> >
> > > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
>
> [Snip]
>
> > Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> > gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
> >
> > (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> > second inlet)
>
> Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
> old Cortina.
>
> But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
>
> --
> Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with
'bellfamily')
10-19-2004, 05:47 AM
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
On 10/12/04 6:39 PM, in article 2t388vF1r4gq9U1@uni-berlin.de, "Jesper
Giovanni" <gio@AnTiSpAm.ig.dk> wrote:
>
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:219bdefc4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
>> In message <ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com>
>> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Does Audi keep this in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a
>>> thing of the past?
>
>> The only change in pressure on my RS6 is to activate the automatic
>> gearbox kickdown - and that requires a 'serious' push (but does result
>> in 'serious' acceleration)!
>
> Same in my A4 1.8T tip 04.97 - the kick-down-pressure takes quite a push.
>
My A8 has the kickdown, (2000)
Giovanni" <gio@AnTiSpAm.ig.dk> wrote:
>
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:219bdefc4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
>> In message <ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com>
>> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Does Audi keep this in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a
>>> thing of the past?
>
>> The only change in pressure on my RS6 is to activate the automatic
>> gearbox kickdown - and that requires a 'serious' push (but does result
>> in 'serious' acceleration)!
>
> Same in my A4 1.8T tip 04.97 - the kick-down-pressure takes quite a push.
>
My A8 has the kickdown, (2000)
10-19-2004, 05:47 AM
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
On 10/12/04 6:39 PM, in article 2t388vF1r4gq9U1@uni-berlin.de, "Jesper
Giovanni" <gio@AnTiSpAm.ig.dk> wrote:
>
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:219bdefc4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
>> In message <ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com>
>> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Does Audi keep this in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a
>>> thing of the past?
>
>> The only change in pressure on my RS6 is to activate the automatic
>> gearbox kickdown - and that requires a 'serious' push (but does result
>> in 'serious' acceleration)!
>
> Same in my A4 1.8T tip 04.97 - the kick-down-pressure takes quite a push.
>
My A8 has the kickdown, (2000)
Giovanni" <gio@AnTiSpAm.ig.dk> wrote:
>
> "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:219bdefc4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
>> In message <ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com>
>> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Does Audi keep this in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a
>>> thing of the past?
>
>> The only change in pressure on my RS6 is to activate the automatic
>> gearbox kickdown - and that requires a 'serious' push (but does result
>> in 'serious' acceleration)!
>
> Same in my A4 1.8T tip 04.97 - the kick-down-pressure takes quite a push.
>
My A8 has the kickdown, (2000)
10-19-2004, 02:48 PM
#28
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
Thanks to all for your contribution.
JP Roberts
"Frank Ford" <fordcablecollc@earthlink.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:BD9A5B8F.2B6BE%fordcablecollc@earthlink.net.. .
> On 10/12/04 6:39 PM, in article 2t388vF1r4gq9U1@uni-berlin.de, "Jesper
> Giovanni" <gio@AnTiSpAm.ig.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:219bdefc4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
> >> In message <ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com>
> >> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Does Audi keep this in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a
> >>> thing of the past?
> >
> >> The only change in pressure on my RS6 is to activate the automatic
> >> gearbox kickdown - and that requires a 'serious' push (but does result
> >> in 'serious' acceleration)!
> >
> > Same in my A4 1.8T tip 04.97 - the kick-down-pressure takes quite a
push.
> >
> My A8 has the kickdown, (2000)
>
JP Roberts
"Frank Ford" <fordcablecollc@earthlink.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:BD9A5B8F.2B6BE%fordcablecollc@earthlink.net.. .
> On 10/12/04 6:39 PM, in article 2t388vF1r4gq9U1@uni-berlin.de, "Jesper
> Giovanni" <gio@AnTiSpAm.ig.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:219bdefc4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
> >> In message <ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com>
> >> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Does Audi keep this in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a
> >>> thing of the past?
> >
> >> The only change in pressure on my RS6 is to activate the automatic
> >> gearbox kickdown - and that requires a 'serious' push (but does result
> >> in 'serious' acceleration)!
> >
> > Same in my A4 1.8T tip 04.97 - the kick-down-pressure takes quite a
push.
> >
> My A8 has the kickdown, (2000)
>
10-19-2004, 02:48 PM
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
Thanks to all for your contribution.
JP Roberts
"Frank Ford" <fordcablecollc@earthlink.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:BD9A5B8F.2B6BE%fordcablecollc@earthlink.net.. .
> On 10/12/04 6:39 PM, in article 2t388vF1r4gq9U1@uni-berlin.de, "Jesper
> Giovanni" <gio@AnTiSpAm.ig.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:219bdefc4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
> >> In message <ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com>
> >> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Does Audi keep this in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a
> >>> thing of the past?
> >
> >> The only change in pressure on my RS6 is to activate the automatic
> >> gearbox kickdown - and that requires a 'serious' push (but does result
> >> in 'serious' acceleration)!
> >
> > Same in my A4 1.8T tip 04.97 - the kick-down-pressure takes quite a
push.
> >
> My A8 has the kickdown, (2000)
>
JP Roberts
"Frank Ford" <fordcablecollc@earthlink.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:BD9A5B8F.2B6BE%fordcablecollc@earthlink.net.. .
> On 10/12/04 6:39 PM, in article 2t388vF1r4gq9U1@uni-berlin.de, "Jesper
> Giovanni" <gio@AnTiSpAm.ig.dk> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Peter Bell" <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:219bdefc4c.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com...
> >> In message <ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com>
> >> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Does Audi keep this in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a
> >>> thing of the past?
> >
> >> The only change in pressure on my RS6 is to activate the automatic
> >> gearbox kickdown - and that requires a 'serious' push (but does result
> >> in 'serious' acceleration)!
> >
> > Same in my A4 1.8T tip 04.97 - the kick-down-pressure takes quite a
push.
> >
> My A8 has the kickdown, (2000)
>
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