Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
Ronny,
Actually, I'm sure my 1980 5k has 2 spring resistances on the gas pedal -
it's either from the opening of the second butterfly in the throttlebody or
from two pedal springs. I haven't actually gone under the dash to look, but
I _have_ seen the 2 springs on the gas pedal on my DKW's - not that you're
going to get RS6 kickdown power from a 34hp engine
JP....how much "mild food" are you putting on the gas pedal? - seriously,
you might exercise your cruise a bit more or select different gear/rpm
ranges to take some of the pressure from your knee - if the A4 is anything
like my 5k (never driven one in traffic so I wouldn't know), the idle
stabilization will try to keep the engine turning at 800-1000 rpm, in
crawling traffic 1st gear can be held with the foot off the accelerator.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - spicy food on the gas pedal
1980 Audi 5k - bland food on the gas pedal
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - sauerkraut on the gas
pedal......ummm....sorry, JP. Couldn't resist.
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"Ronny" <Ron@Ronnny.com> wrote in message
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> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Dear All,
> >
> > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found to
be
> > very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with different
> > levels
> > of foot pressure necessary to depress it, i.e., for the first third of
its
> > length only mild food pressure would depress it, which meant when
traffic
> > was slowish it was a big relief to be able to rest your foot weight on
the
> > pedal knowing this wouldn't result in any massive power delivery. The
two
> > remaining thirds were harder to run down, so you had to push harder to
get
> > serious power out of the engine.
> >
> > My 98 A4 1.8TQ doesn't have this feature, much as I'd love it to make my
> > knee feel better on long journeys with sluggish traffic. Does Audi keep
> > this
> > in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a thing of the past?
> >
> > Thanks for your replies in advance,
> >
> > JP Roberts
> >
> >
>
> Maybe the cable had rusted in that postion, most cars that are oldish have
a
> cut off point where the previous driver sits all the time, say he never
> drives above 70mph, the cable will be free up till 70mph then after that
it
> may get stiffer?
>
> I might be talking bollox though
>
>
Actually, I'm sure my 1980 5k has 2 spring resistances on the gas pedal -
it's either from the opening of the second butterfly in the throttlebody or
from two pedal springs. I haven't actually gone under the dash to look, but
I _have_ seen the 2 springs on the gas pedal on my DKW's - not that you're
going to get RS6 kickdown power from a 34hp engine
JP....how much "mild food" are you putting on the gas pedal? - seriously,
you might exercise your cruise a bit more or select different gear/rpm
ranges to take some of the pressure from your knee - if the A4 is anything
like my 5k (never driven one in traffic so I wouldn't know), the idle
stabilization will try to keep the engine turning at 800-1000 rpm, in
crawling traffic 1st gear can be held with the foot off the accelerator.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Audi 5kTQ - spicy food on the gas pedal
1980 Audi 5k - bland food on the gas pedal
1962 and '64 Auto Union DKW Junior deLuxes - sauerkraut on the gas
pedal......ummm....sorry, JP. Couldn't resist.
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"Ronny" <Ron@Ronnny.com> wrote in message
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> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Dear All,
> >
> > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found to
be
> > very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with different
> > levels
> > of foot pressure necessary to depress it, i.e., for the first third of
its
> > length only mild food pressure would depress it, which meant when
traffic
> > was slowish it was a big relief to be able to rest your foot weight on
the
> > pedal knowing this wouldn't result in any massive power delivery. The
two
> > remaining thirds were harder to run down, so you had to push harder to
get
> > serious power out of the engine.
> >
> > My 98 A4 1.8TQ doesn't have this feature, much as I'd love it to make my
> > knee feel better on long journeys with sluggish traffic. Does Audi keep
> > this
> > in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a thing of the past?
> >
> > Thanks for your replies in advance,
> >
> > JP Roberts
> >
> >
>
> Maybe the cable had rusted in that postion, most cars that are oldish have
a
> cut off point where the previous driver sits all the time, say he never
> drives above 70mph, the cable will be free up till 70mph then after that
it
> may get stiffer?
>
> I might be talking bollox though
>
>
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
I'm pretty certain this was no failing but instead it had been designed to
work that way.
> Maybe the cable had rusted in that postion, most cars that are oldish have
a
> cut off point where the previous driver sits all the time, say he never
> drives above 70mph, the cable will be free up till 70mph then after that
it
> may get stiffer?
>
> I might be talking bollox though
>
>
work that way.
> Maybe the cable had rusted in that postion, most cars that are oldish have
a
> cut off point where the previous driver sits all the time, say he never
> drives above 70mph, the cable will be free up till 70mph then after that
it
> may get stiffer?
>
> I might be talking bollox though
>
>
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
I'm pretty certain this was no failing but instead it had been designed to
work that way.
> Maybe the cable had rusted in that postion, most cars that are oldish have
a
> cut off point where the previous driver sits all the time, say he never
> drives above 70mph, the cable will be free up till 70mph then after that
it
> may get stiffer?
>
> I might be talking bollox though
>
>
work that way.
> Maybe the cable had rusted in that postion, most cars that are oldish have
a
> cut off point where the previous driver sits all the time, say he never
> drives above 70mph, the cable will be free up till 70mph then after that
it
> may get stiffer?
>
> I might be talking bollox though
>
>
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
> JP....how much "mild food" are you putting on the gas pedal? - seriously,
> you might exercise your cruise a bit more or select different gear/rpm
> ranges to take some of the pressure from your knee - if the A4 is anything
> like my 5k (never driven one in traffic so I wouldn't know), the idle
> stabilization will try to keep the engine turning at 800-1000 rpm, in
> crawling traffic 1st gear can be held with the foot off the accelerator.
Let me be more specific. I'm not talking about tailback traffic, but instead
roadworks and an eternal continuous line on a single lane road plagued with
old age pensioners most of whom have no idea of driving at all and keep
accelerating and braking all the time and for no reason and impatient
youngsters with no notion of economical driving. Sluggish ancient trucks
make the situation even worse.
Most of the time, when I'm not in racing mood and traffic is bad enough, my
favourite driving style is that which is the most economical both on petrol
and brake pads. To me, this means using the highest gears possible - I hate
engines revving high for no reason -, keeping as long a distance from the
car in front as possible so that the moron behind you won't overtake (there
is the odd short stretch where it's not worth overtaking since traffic is
just as bad for hundreds of vehicles ahead) taking thoughful anticipacion
for sluggish driving, but I'll still be able to avoid hitting the brake
unless strictly necessary, and lately, upshifting directly from 3rd to 5th -
believe it or not it's more economical than going through 4th (because of
the give-and-take involved with manual shifts). This includes taking
advantage of any downhill slopes to gain speed without using the accelerator
much and not using the brakes unless necessary.
This is the kind of mild pressure I'm talking about and it is exactly then
that a two stage accelerator would prove most useful, because if not at all
times, I could rest the tip of my right foot on the pedal for precious
intervals, which would be a relief to my knee.
I must also say at this point that I find the seat to be badly designed. For
a start I can never adjust it properly, as I find I'm either sitting
slightly too close to the pedals to keep a comfortable distance from the
wheel, or I'm sitting slightly too far from the pedals and way too far from
the wheel. I think the adjustment mechanism would benefit a lot from some
"fine-tuing" capability, as the space between the different points is much
too long. Also the sides are too far apart and allow too much sideways
motion to snug fit. Having said that my seats are not Recaro, but I didn't
know of any non S or RS Audis that could be ordered with Recaro when I
ordered six years ago.
JP Roberts
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
> JP....how much "mild food" are you putting on the gas pedal? - seriously,
> you might exercise your cruise a bit more or select different gear/rpm
> ranges to take some of the pressure from your knee - if the A4 is anything
> like my 5k (never driven one in traffic so I wouldn't know), the idle
> stabilization will try to keep the engine turning at 800-1000 rpm, in
> crawling traffic 1st gear can be held with the foot off the accelerator.
Let me be more specific. I'm not talking about tailback traffic, but instead
roadworks and an eternal continuous line on a single lane road plagued with
old age pensioners most of whom have no idea of driving at all and keep
accelerating and braking all the time and for no reason and impatient
youngsters with no notion of economical driving. Sluggish ancient trucks
make the situation even worse.
Most of the time, when I'm not in racing mood and traffic is bad enough, my
favourite driving style is that which is the most economical both on petrol
and brake pads. To me, this means using the highest gears possible - I hate
engines revving high for no reason -, keeping as long a distance from the
car in front as possible so that the moron behind you won't overtake (there
is the odd short stretch where it's not worth overtaking since traffic is
just as bad for hundreds of vehicles ahead) taking thoughful anticipacion
for sluggish driving, but I'll still be able to avoid hitting the brake
unless strictly necessary, and lately, upshifting directly from 3rd to 5th -
believe it or not it's more economical than going through 4th (because of
the give-and-take involved with manual shifts). This includes taking
advantage of any downhill slopes to gain speed without using the accelerator
much and not using the brakes unless necessary.
This is the kind of mild pressure I'm talking about and it is exactly then
that a two stage accelerator would prove most useful, because if not at all
times, I could rest the tip of my right foot on the pedal for precious
intervals, which would be a relief to my knee.
I must also say at this point that I find the seat to be badly designed. For
a start I can never adjust it properly, as I find I'm either sitting
slightly too close to the pedals to keep a comfortable distance from the
wheel, or I'm sitting slightly too far from the pedals and way too far from
the wheel. I think the adjustment mechanism would benefit a lot from some
"fine-tuing" capability, as the space between the different points is much
too long. Also the sides are too far apart and allow too much sideways
motion to snug fit. Having said that my seats are not Recaro, but I didn't
know of any non S or RS Audis that could be ordered with Recaro when I
ordered six years ago.
JP Roberts
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
> JP....how much "mild food" are you putting on the gas pedal? - seriously,
> you might exercise your cruise a bit more or select different gear/rpm
> ranges to take some of the pressure from your knee - if the A4 is anything
> like my 5k (never driven one in traffic so I wouldn't know), the idle
> stabilization will try to keep the engine turning at 800-1000 rpm, in
> crawling traffic 1st gear can be held with the foot off the accelerator.
Let me be more specific. I'm not talking about tailback traffic, but instead
roadworks and an eternal continuous line on a single lane road plagued with
old age pensioners most of whom have no idea of driving at all and keep
accelerating and braking all the time and for no reason and impatient
youngsters with no notion of economical driving. Sluggish ancient trucks
make the situation even worse.
Most of the time, when I'm not in racing mood and traffic is bad enough, my
favourite driving style is that which is the most economical both on petrol
and brake pads. To me, this means using the highest gears possible - I hate
engines revving high for no reason -, keeping as long a distance from the
car in front as possible so that the moron behind you won't overtake (there
is the odd short stretch where it's not worth overtaking since traffic is
just as bad for hundreds of vehicles ahead) taking thoughful anticipacion
for sluggish driving, but I'll still be able to avoid hitting the brake
unless strictly necessary, and lately, upshifting directly from 3rd to 5th -
believe it or not it's more economical than going through 4th (because of
the give-and-take involved with manual shifts). This includes taking
advantage of any downhill slopes to gain speed without using the accelerator
much and not using the brakes unless necessary.
This is the kind of mild pressure I'm talking about and it is exactly then
that a two stage accelerator would prove most useful, because if not at all
times, I could rest the tip of my right foot on the pedal for precious
intervals, which would be a relief to my knee.
I must also say at this point that I find the seat to be badly designed. For
a start I can never adjust it properly, as I find I'm either sitting
slightly too close to the pedals to keep a comfortable distance from the
wheel, or I'm sitting slightly too far from the pedals and way too far from
the wheel. I think the adjustment mechanism would benefit a lot from some
"fine-tuing" capability, as the space between the different points is much
too long. Also the sides are too far apart and allow too much sideways
motion to snug fit. Having said that my seats are not Recaro, but I didn't
know of any non S or RS Audis that could be ordered with Recaro when I
ordered six years ago.
JP Roberts
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
> JP....how much "mild food" are you putting on the gas pedal? - seriously,
> you might exercise your cruise a bit more or select different gear/rpm
> ranges to take some of the pressure from your knee - if the A4 is anything
> like my 5k (never driven one in traffic so I wouldn't know), the idle
> stabilization will try to keep the engine turning at 800-1000 rpm, in
> crawling traffic 1st gear can be held with the foot off the accelerator.
Let me be more specific. I'm not talking about tailback traffic, but instead
roadworks and an eternal continuous line on a single lane road plagued with
old age pensioners most of whom have no idea of driving at all and keep
accelerating and braking all the time and for no reason and impatient
youngsters with no notion of economical driving. Sluggish ancient trucks
make the situation even worse.
Most of the time, when I'm not in racing mood and traffic is bad enough, my
favourite driving style is that which is the most economical both on petrol
and brake pads. To me, this means using the highest gears possible - I hate
engines revving high for no reason -, keeping as long a distance from the
car in front as possible so that the moron behind you won't overtake (there
is the odd short stretch where it's not worth overtaking since traffic is
just as bad for hundreds of vehicles ahead) taking thoughful anticipacion
for sluggish driving, but I'll still be able to avoid hitting the brake
unless strictly necessary, and lately, upshifting directly from 3rd to 5th -
believe it or not it's more economical than going through 4th (because of
the give-and-take involved with manual shifts). This includes taking
advantage of any downhill slopes to gain speed without using the accelerator
much and not using the brakes unless necessary.
This is the kind of mild pressure I'm talking about and it is exactly then
that a two stage accelerator would prove most useful, because if not at all
times, I could rest the tip of my right foot on the pedal for precious
intervals, which would be a relief to my knee.
I must also say at this point that I find the seat to be badly designed. For
a start I can never adjust it properly, as I find I'm either sitting
slightly too close to the pedals to keep a comfortable distance from the
wheel, or I'm sitting slightly too far from the pedals and way too far from
the wheel. I think the adjustment mechanism would benefit a lot from some
"fine-tuing" capability, as the space between the different points is much
too long. Also the sides are too far apart and allow too much sideways
motion to snug fit. Having said that my seats are not Recaro, but I didn't
know of any non S or RS Audis that could be ordered with Recaro when I
ordered six years ago.
JP Roberts
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found to be
> very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with different
levels
> of foot pressure necessary to depress it, i.e., for the first third of its
> length only mild food pressure would depress it, which meant when traffic
> was slowish it was a big relief to be able to rest your foot weight on the
> pedal knowing this wouldn't result in any massive power delivery. The two
> remaining thirds were harder to run down, so you had to push harder to get
> serious power out of the engine.
>
> My 98 A4 1.8TQ doesn't have this feature, much as I'd love it to make my
> knee feel better on long journeys with sluggish traffic. Does Audi keep
this
> in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a thing of the past?
Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
(The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
second inlet)
--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
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> I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found to be
> very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with different
levels
> of foot pressure necessary to depress it, i.e., for the first third of its
> length only mild food pressure would depress it, which meant when traffic
> was slowish it was a big relief to be able to rest your foot weight on the
> pedal knowing this wouldn't result in any massive power delivery. The two
> remaining thirds were harder to run down, so you had to push harder to get
> serious power out of the engine.
>
> My 98 A4 1.8TQ doesn't have this feature, much as I'd love it to make my
> knee feel better on long journeys with sluggish traffic. Does Audi keep
this
> in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a thing of the past?
Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
(The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
second inlet)
--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found to be
> very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with different
levels
> of foot pressure necessary to depress it, i.e., for the first third of its
> length only mild food pressure would depress it, which meant when traffic
> was slowish it was a big relief to be able to rest your foot weight on the
> pedal knowing this wouldn't result in any massive power delivery. The two
> remaining thirds were harder to run down, so you had to push harder to get
> serious power out of the engine.
>
> My 98 A4 1.8TQ doesn't have this feature, much as I'd love it to make my
> knee feel better on long journeys with sluggish traffic. Does Audi keep
this
> in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a thing of the past?
Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
(The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
second inlet)
--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
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> I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found to be
> very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with different
levels
> of foot pressure necessary to depress it, i.e., for the first third of its
> length only mild food pressure would depress it, which meant when traffic
> was slowish it was a big relief to be able to rest your foot weight on the
> pedal knowing this wouldn't result in any massive power delivery. The two
> remaining thirds were harder to run down, so you had to push harder to get
> serious power out of the engine.
>
> My 98 A4 1.8TQ doesn't have this feature, much as I'd love it to make my
> knee feel better on long journeys with sluggish traffic. Does Audi keep
this
> in serious models such as the RSs, or is it just a thing of the past?
Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
(The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
second inlet)
--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
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Re: Any Audis with two-stage gas pedal?
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"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
[Snip]
> Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
>
> (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> second inlet)
Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
old Cortina.
But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
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"Hairy One Kenobi" <abuse@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
> "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ckh9hk$r4k$1@news.ya.com...
>
> > I remember my neighbour's old 90 2.3E had a gas pedal which I found
> > to be very comfortable on long journeys as it had two stages with
> > different levels of foot pressure necessary to depress it
[Snip]
> Easy enough to do yourself - just rip-out all of that ECU and Injection
> gubbins and fit a twin-choke carb ;o)
>
> (The extra bit of "push" at the end should have been the spring on the
> second inlet)
Just so - as I was used to on the progressive twin-choke Webers on my
old Cortina.
But surely, the 90 2.3E had fuel injection?
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')