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eBob.com 12-13-2006 08:36 PM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
I don't know this for a fact, but it's my understanding that if a problem
appears while the car is under warranty Audi is obliged to fix it - no
matter how long it takes. If the dealer disagrees take it to Audi. If Audi
tries to weasel out of it contact your state's AG. What does a warranty
mean if the dealer can just keep "trying" to fix a problem (i.e. going
through the motions) until the warranty expires?

Bob

<agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegrou ps.com...
>I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> dealer's parking lot...).
>
> I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> pit.
>
> Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Andrew
>




eBob.com 12-13-2006 08:36 PM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
I don't know this for a fact, but it's my understanding that if a problem
appears while the car is under warranty Audi is obliged to fix it - no
matter how long it takes. If the dealer disagrees take it to Audi. If Audi
tries to weasel out of it contact your state's AG. What does a warranty
mean if the dealer can just keep "trying" to fix a problem (i.e. going
through the motions) until the warranty expires?

Bob

<agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegrou ps.com...
>I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> dealer's parking lot...).
>
> I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> pit.
>
> Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Andrew
>




eBob.com 12-13-2006 08:36 PM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
I don't know this for a fact, but it's my understanding that if a problem
appears while the car is under warranty Audi is obliged to fix it - no
matter how long it takes. If the dealer disagrees take it to Audi. If Audi
tries to weasel out of it contact your state's AG. What does a warranty
mean if the dealer can just keep "trying" to fix a problem (i.e. going
through the motions) until the warranty expires?

Bob

<agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegrou ps.com...
>I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> dealer's parking lot...).
>
> I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> pit.
>
> Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Andrew
>




Kevin McMurtrie 12-13-2006 11:43 PM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
In article <1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegroups.c om>,
"agbiggs@hotmail.com" <agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> dealer's parking lot...).
>
> I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> pit.
>
> Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Andrew


It's probably still under warranty because it was never fixed. If the
previous owner had the same problem repaired under the factory warranty
then it's definitely covered.

Kevin McMurtrie 12-13-2006 11:43 PM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
In article <1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegroups.c om>,
"agbiggs@hotmail.com" <agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> dealer's parking lot...).
>
> I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> pit.
>
> Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Andrew


It's probably still under warranty because it was never fixed. If the
previous owner had the same problem repaired under the factory warranty
then it's definitely covered.

Kevin McMurtrie 12-13-2006 11:43 PM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
In article <1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegroups.c om>,
"agbiggs@hotmail.com" <agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> dealer's parking lot...).
>
> I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> pit.
>
> Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Andrew


It's probably still under warranty because it was never fixed. If the
previous owner had the same problem repaired under the factory warranty
then it's definitely covered.

Kevin McMurtrie 12-13-2006 11:43 PM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
In article <1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegroups.c om>,
"agbiggs@hotmail.com" <agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> dealer's parking lot...).
>
> I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> pit.
>
> Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Andrew


It's probably still under warranty because it was never fixed. If the
previous owner had the same problem repaired under the factory warranty
then it's definitely covered.

agbiggs@hotmail.com 12-14-2006 07:58 AM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
I talked to my dealer about this yesterday. Their claim is that since a
number of things can cause the check engine light to come on, it's a
new problem rather than an ongoing problem that was never fixed. That's
a bit hard to believe, but I wasn't in the mood to fight it and paid
the $300 bill. I'm only hoping the fix will stay fixed for a while so I
can trade it in. I don't mind minor problems when it's under warranty,
but out of warranty things get really expensive.

Example: A small plastic gear was missing from the top of the headlight
mechanism, which is used to 'steer' the light. As a result, it was
mis-pointed and wouldn't pass inspection. So you'd replace the 5-cent
gear, right? Nope. Audi says you have to replace the entire headlight
structure at a cost of $1300. Between this problem and the check engine
light, I'm pretty much done. A great car but the poor reliabiliity and
cost of repairs make things a real problem.

Thanks for the help; much appreciated.

Andrew



Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article <1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegroups.c om>,
> "agbiggs@hotmail.com" <agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> > pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> > been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> > the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> > three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> > always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> > dealer's parking lot...).
> >
> > I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> > check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> > emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> > further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> > it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> > pit.
> >
> > Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> > post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> > same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
> >
> > Andrew

>
> It's probably still under warranty because it was never fixed. If the
> previous owner had the same problem repaired under the factory warranty
> then it's definitely covered.



agbiggs@hotmail.com 12-14-2006 07:58 AM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
I talked to my dealer about this yesterday. Their claim is that since a
number of things can cause the check engine light to come on, it's a
new problem rather than an ongoing problem that was never fixed. That's
a bit hard to believe, but I wasn't in the mood to fight it and paid
the $300 bill. I'm only hoping the fix will stay fixed for a while so I
can trade it in. I don't mind minor problems when it's under warranty,
but out of warranty things get really expensive.

Example: A small plastic gear was missing from the top of the headlight
mechanism, which is used to 'steer' the light. As a result, it was
mis-pointed and wouldn't pass inspection. So you'd replace the 5-cent
gear, right? Nope. Audi says you have to replace the entire headlight
structure at a cost of $1300. Between this problem and the check engine
light, I'm pretty much done. A great car but the poor reliabiliity and
cost of repairs make things a real problem.

Thanks for the help; much appreciated.

Andrew



Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article <1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegroups.c om>,
> "agbiggs@hotmail.com" <agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> > pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> > been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> > the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> > three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> > always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> > dealer's parking lot...).
> >
> > I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> > check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> > emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> > further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> > it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> > pit.
> >
> > Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> > post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> > same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
> >
> > Andrew

>
> It's probably still under warranty because it was never fixed. If the
> previous owner had the same problem repaired under the factory warranty
> then it's definitely covered.



agbiggs@hotmail.com 12-14-2006 07:58 AM

Re: 2006 AC Check engine light (help with dealer)
 
I talked to my dealer about this yesterday. Their claim is that since a
number of things can cause the check engine light to come on, it's a
new problem rather than an ongoing problem that was never fixed. That's
a bit hard to believe, but I wasn't in the mood to fight it and paid
the $300 bill. I'm only hoping the fix will stay fixed for a while so I
can trade it in. I don't mind minor problems when it's under warranty,
but out of warranty things get really expensive.

Example: A small plastic gear was missing from the top of the headlight
mechanism, which is used to 'steer' the light. As a result, it was
mis-pointed and wouldn't pass inspection. So you'd replace the 5-cent
gear, right? Nope. Audi says you have to replace the entire headlight
structure at a cost of $1300. Between this problem and the check engine
light, I'm pretty much done. A great car but the poor reliabiliity and
cost of repairs make things a real problem.

Thanks for the help; much appreciated.

Andrew



Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article <1166042616.978863.62610@79g2000cws.googlegroups.c om>,
> "agbiggs@hotmail.com" <agbiggs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a 2000 A6 (4.2) with almost 90k miles (I purchased certified
> > pre-owned at around 70k). For the entire time I've had the car there's
> > been a problem with the check engine light coming on. I've had it in
> > the shop three times and I know the previous owner took it in two or
> > three times. They'll do some work designed to fix it, but the light
> > always comes back on (once, it came back on as I drove out of the
> > dealer's parking lot...).
> >
> > I'm now in a fix because a) I need to re-register the car and with the
> > check engine light on I believe it will automatically fail the
> > emissions test; and b) the warranty ran out (2 weeks ago - ugh) and so
> > further speculative repairs are on my dime. So basically I have to get
> > it fixed or the car is worthless, but I fear the fixes will be a money
> > pit.
> >
> > Do I have any case that Audi should cover the repair costs even
> > post-warranty, given how many times it's been in the shop to fix the
> > same problem? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!
> >
> > Andrew

>
> It's probably still under warranty because it was never fixed. If the
> previous owner had the same problem repaired under the factory warranty
> then it's definitely covered.




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