2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
"Matt O'Toole" <matt@deltanet.com> haute in die Tasten:
> Ah, you Germans are so orderly (which is probably why you can have
> roads with no speed limits). Over here, any idiot can buy such
> things -- and they do.
>
Over here, too. There are lots of BMW tuners who do not limit their cars. Alpina has
just introduced their brad new Alpina B5 with a five litre supercharged V8 and 500 HP.
It is about as expensive as a new M5, features about the same acceleration and runs at
least 30 miles faster - with an ordinary torque converter autobox. Currently Alpina is
considering limiting the beast at 300 km/h (approx 186 mph) due to safety reasons.
And I am pretty sure that there are many companies, which legally remove the speed
limiter for you (but I do not know what the insurance companies think about that).
I think the decision of BMW to sell the 280 kph CSL only to certified race drivers was
some sort of marketing hype: They wanted to demonstrate that the M3 CSL is a street
legal race car. It was no decision enforced by law.
Frank
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> Ah, you Germans are so orderly (which is probably why you can have
> roads with no speed limits). Over here, any idiot can buy such
> things -- and they do.
>
Over here, too. There are lots of BMW tuners who do not limit their cars. Alpina has
just introduced their brad new Alpina B5 with a five litre supercharged V8 and 500 HP.
It is about as expensive as a new M5, features about the same acceleration and runs at
least 30 miles faster - with an ordinary torque converter autobox. Currently Alpina is
considering limiting the beast at 300 km/h (approx 186 mph) due to safety reasons.
And I am pretty sure that there are many companies, which legally remove the speed
limiter for you (but I do not know what the insurance companies think about that).
I think the decision of BMW to sell the 280 kph CSL only to certified race drivers was
some sort of marketing hype: They wanted to demonstrate that the M3 CSL is a street
legal race car. It was no decision enforced by law.
Frank
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
"Matt O'Toole" <matt@deltanet.com> haute in die Tasten:
> Ah, you Germans are so orderly (which is probably why you can have
> roads with no speed limits). Over here, any idiot can buy such
> things -- and they do.
>
Over here, too. There are lots of BMW tuners who do not limit their cars. Alpina has
just introduced their brad new Alpina B5 with a five litre supercharged V8 and 500 HP.
It is about as expensive as a new M5, features about the same acceleration and runs at
least 30 miles faster - with an ordinary torque converter autobox. Currently Alpina is
considering limiting the beast at 300 km/h (approx 186 mph) due to safety reasons.
And I am pretty sure that there are many companies, which legally remove the speed
limiter for you (but I do not know what the insurance companies think about that).
I think the decision of BMW to sell the 280 kph CSL only to certified race drivers was
some sort of marketing hype: They wanted to demonstrate that the M3 CSL is a street
legal race car. It was no decision enforced by law.
Frank
--
please replace spam-muelleimer with fk-newsgroups for e-mail contact
Citroen - Made in Trance
> Ah, you Germans are so orderly (which is probably why you can have
> roads with no speed limits). Over here, any idiot can buy such
> things -- and they do.
>
Over here, too. There are lots of BMW tuners who do not limit their cars. Alpina has
just introduced their brad new Alpina B5 with a five litre supercharged V8 and 500 HP.
It is about as expensive as a new M5, features about the same acceleration and runs at
least 30 miles faster - with an ordinary torque converter autobox. Currently Alpina is
considering limiting the beast at 300 km/h (approx 186 mph) due to safety reasons.
And I am pretty sure that there are many companies, which legally remove the speed
limiter for you (but I do not know what the insurance companies think about that).
I think the decision of BMW to sell the 280 kph CSL only to certified race drivers was
some sort of marketing hype: They wanted to demonstrate that the M3 CSL is a street
legal race car. It was no decision enforced by law.
Frank
--
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
Seth Brundle wrote:
> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose on
that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Jeff
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?
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"Every time I hear the news
That old feeling comes back on;
We're waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the Big Fool says to push on."
- Pete Seeger, 1967
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> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose on
that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Jeff
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?
--
---
"Every time I hear the news
That old feeling comes back on;
We're waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the Big Fool says to push on."
- Pete Seeger, 1967
---
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
Seth Brundle wrote:
> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose on
that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Jeff
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?
--
---
"Every time I hear the news
That old feeling comes back on;
We're waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the Big Fool says to push on."
- Pete Seeger, 1967
---
> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose on
that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Jeff
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?
--
---
"Every time I hear the news
That old feeling comes back on;
We're waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the Big Fool says to push on."
- Pete Seeger, 1967
---
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
Seth Brundle wrote:
> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose on
that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Jeff
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?
--
---
"Every time I hear the news
That old feeling comes back on;
We're waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the Big Fool says to push on."
- Pete Seeger, 1967
---
> I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose on
that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Jeff
>
> BMW has put me in such a difficult position with their pricing, body
> design, and iDrive.
>
> The first time I saw a 2005 545i I was like 'YUCK!!!'. I mean I really
> wanted to like it but I just could not as hard as I tried. It truly
> looks terrible to me, my girlfriend had the exact same reaction.
>
> Meanwhile, the A6 is a very pedestrian Audi design - better in that it
> doesnt bother me.
>
> The Audi is limited to 130 MPH and although thats unfortunate, I think
> I've only exceeded that once in the 540i anyway, and just briefly. The
> 540i is slightly faster in acceleration thanks to the torque if not
> the HP.
>
> I know I'll like driving the BMW more, thats what got me the 540i.
> I've driven Audis - they are 'smooth' - real smooth, but Im not
> looking for smooth, I like 'fun'.
>
> Anyways - opinions?
--
---
"Every time I hear the news
That old feeling comes back on;
We're waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the Big Fool says to push on."
- Pete Seeger, 1967
---
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
"Jeff Mayner" <jeffmayner@yahoonospam.com> wrote in message
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> Seth Brundle wrote:
> > I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> > It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
>
> I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose
on
> that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
I have a 545 and although I wasn't completely enamored with it's looks it
doesn't seem to matter to me anymore. I like the drive and performance and I
love the spartan interior. I don't really dislike the new nose of the A6,
but if one does, but loves everything else about the car, I doubt the nose
will be much of an issue a few months down the road.
I just don't get excited about looks. Good or bad, they inevitably become
unimportant if the car satisfies (or dissatisfies) in what I consider to be
the more important areas.
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
"Jeff Mayner" <jeffmayner@yahoonospam.com> wrote in message
news:0f2dnbWbh6RVnVncRVn-gw@giganews.com...
> Seth Brundle wrote:
> > I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> > It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
>
> I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose
on
> that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
I have a 545 and although I wasn't completely enamored with it's looks it
doesn't seem to matter to me anymore. I like the drive and performance and I
love the spartan interior. I don't really dislike the new nose of the A6,
but if one does, but loves everything else about the car, I doubt the nose
will be much of an issue a few months down the road.
I just don't get excited about looks. Good or bad, they inevitably become
unimportant if the car satisfies (or dissatisfies) in what I consider to be
the more important areas.
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
"Jeff Mayner" <jeffmayner@yahoonospam.com> wrote in message
news:0f2dnbWbh6RVnVncRVn-gw@giganews.com...
> Seth Brundle wrote:
> > I have a 2000 540i, and am looking to upgrade.
> > It looks like a dead heat between the 05 545i and 05 A6 4.2.
>
> I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose
on
> that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
I have a 545 and although I wasn't completely enamored with it's looks it
doesn't seem to matter to me anymore. I like the drive and performance and I
love the spartan interior. I don't really dislike the new nose of the A6,
but if one does, but loves everything else about the car, I doubt the nose
will be much of an issue a few months down the road.
I just don't get excited about looks. Good or bad, they inevitably become
unimportant if the car satisfies (or dissatisfies) in what I consider to be
the more important areas.
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
>I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose on
>that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Have you seen it in person? I saw a loaded V6 at the dealer and I actually like
it, MUCH better than the pictures made it seem.
Steve Grauman
>that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Have you seen it in person? I saw a loaded V6 at the dealer and I actually like
it, MUCH better than the pictures made it seem.
Steve Grauman
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
>I'm not sold on the new 5 Series looks, but, I have to tell you, the nose on
>that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Have you seen it in person? I saw a loaded V6 at the dealer and I actually like
it, MUCH better than the pictures made it seem.
Steve Grauman
>that Audi is absolutely hideous. JMO/YMMV
Have you seen it in person? I saw a loaded V6 at the dealer and I actually like
it, MUCH better than the pictures made it seem.
Steve Grauman
