2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
#41
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
:US S4 is on paper only
<Japanese voice>
Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
</Japanese voice>
not actually turned on in the ECU software),
:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
:could actually reach that speed).
Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
proportion of owners does.
--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy
Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
:US S4 is on paper only
<Japanese voice>
Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
</Japanese voice>
not actually turned on in the ECU software),
:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
:could actually reach that speed).
Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
proportion of owners does.
--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy
#42
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
:US S4 is on paper only
<Japanese voice>
Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
</Japanese voice>
not actually turned on in the ECU software),
:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
:could actually reach that speed).
Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
proportion of owners does.
--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy
Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
:US S4 is on paper only
<Japanese voice>
Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
</Japanese voice>
not actually turned on in the ECU software),
:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
:could actually reach that speed).
Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
proportion of owners does.
--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy
#43
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
:US S4 is on paper only
<Japanese voice>
Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
</Japanese voice>
not actually turned on in the ECU software),
:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
:could actually reach that speed).
Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
proportion of owners does.
--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy
Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
:US S4 is on paper only
<Japanese voice>
Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
</Japanese voice>
not actually turned on in the ECU software),
:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
:could actually reach that speed).
Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
proportion of owners does.
--
E.R. aka SJG aka Ricardo
present location: vancouver bc canada
refugee from the european union's evil bureaucracy
#44
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
In article <5ql1r0pjg7tpuhi29vm6rnf8jifeegqshp@4ax.com>,
E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:
>In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
>Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
>
>: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
>:US S4 is on paper only
>
><Japanese voice>
>
>Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
>
></Japanese voice>
>
>not actually turned on in the ECU software),
>:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
>:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
>:could actually reach that speed).
>
>Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
>source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
>Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
>don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
>proportion of owners does.
I've read of people exploring the limits of the car on AudiWorld,
although I have no first hand experience. I believe that the limiter
value is indeed set to 155 in the ECU but the limiter flag itself is
actually set to false, which disables the function. The lack of a
speed limiter isn't really an issue since the speed (even at 155)
is still well beyond any legally acceptable level on any public road
in the US. 155 is something that the European community has agreed
on I believe so I'm not sure the fact that it might not be implemented
on a US spec car would be all that significant.
If you would like to look into this further, I suggest going to the
AudiWorld.com or B6S4.com web sites and searching for information on
"speed limiter" or "governor".
- Charlie
04 S4 MT6
E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:
>In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
>Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
>
>: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
>:US S4 is on paper only
>
><Japanese voice>
>
>Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
>
></Japanese voice>
>
>not actually turned on in the ECU software),
>:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
>:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
>:could actually reach that speed).
>
>Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
>source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
>Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
>don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
>proportion of owners does.
I've read of people exploring the limits of the car on AudiWorld,
although I have no first hand experience. I believe that the limiter
value is indeed set to 155 in the ECU but the limiter flag itself is
actually set to false, which disables the function. The lack of a
speed limiter isn't really an issue since the speed (even at 155)
is still well beyond any legally acceptable level on any public road
in the US. 155 is something that the European community has agreed
on I believe so I'm not sure the fact that it might not be implemented
on a US spec car would be all that significant.
If you would like to look into this further, I suggest going to the
AudiWorld.com or B6S4.com web sites and searching for information on
"speed limiter" or "governor".
- Charlie
04 S4 MT6
#45
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
In article <5ql1r0pjg7tpuhi29vm6rnf8jifeegqshp@4ax.com>,
E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:
>In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
>Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
>
>: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
>:US S4 is on paper only
>
><Japanese voice>
>
>Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
>
></Japanese voice>
>
>not actually turned on in the ECU software),
>:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
>:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
>:could actually reach that speed).
>
>Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
>source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
>Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
>don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
>proportion of owners does.
I've read of people exploring the limits of the car on AudiWorld,
although I have no first hand experience. I believe that the limiter
value is indeed set to 155 in the ECU but the limiter flag itself is
actually set to false, which disables the function. The lack of a
speed limiter isn't really an issue since the speed (even at 155)
is still well beyond any legally acceptable level on any public road
in the US. 155 is something that the European community has agreed
on I believe so I'm not sure the fact that it might not be implemented
on a US spec car would be all that significant.
If you would like to look into this further, I suggest going to the
AudiWorld.com or B6S4.com web sites and searching for information on
"speed limiter" or "governor".
- Charlie
04 S4 MT6
E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:
>In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
>Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
>
>: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
>:US S4 is on paper only
>
><Japanese voice>
>
>Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
>
></Japanese voice>
>
>not actually turned on in the ECU software),
>:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
>:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
>:could actually reach that speed).
>
>Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
>source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
>Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
>don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
>proportion of owners does.
I've read of people exploring the limits of the car on AudiWorld,
although I have no first hand experience. I believe that the limiter
value is indeed set to 155 in the ECU but the limiter flag itself is
actually set to false, which disables the function. The lack of a
speed limiter isn't really an issue since the speed (even at 155)
is still well beyond any legally acceptable level on any public road
in the US. 155 is something that the European community has agreed
on I believe so I'm not sure the fact that it might not be implemented
on a US spec car would be all that significant.
If you would like to look into this further, I suggest going to the
AudiWorld.com or B6S4.com web sites and searching for information on
"speed limiter" or "governor".
- Charlie
04 S4 MT6
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
In article <5ql1r0pjg7tpuhi29vm6rnf8jifeegqshp@4ax.com>,
E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:
>In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
>Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
>
>: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
>:US S4 is on paper only
>
><Japanese voice>
>
>Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
>
></Japanese voice>
>
>not actually turned on in the ECU software),
>:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
>:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
>:could actually reach that speed).
>
>Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
>source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
>Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
>don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
>proportion of owners does.
I've read of people exploring the limits of the car on AudiWorld,
although I have no first hand experience. I believe that the limiter
value is indeed set to 155 in the ECU but the limiter flag itself is
actually set to false, which disables the function. The lack of a
speed limiter isn't really an issue since the speed (even at 155)
is still well beyond any legally acceptable level on any public road
in the US. 155 is something that the European community has agreed
on I believe so I'm not sure the fact that it might not be implemented
on a US spec car would be all that significant.
If you would like to look into this further, I suggest going to the
AudiWorld.com or B6S4.com web sites and searching for information on
"speed limiter" or "governor".
- Charlie
04 S4 MT6
E.R. <red_starinfrench@email.kom> wrote:
>In a previous posting, charlieg@ic.sunysb.edu (Charlie
>Giannetto) had the audacity to say:
>
>: Although I haven't taken mine up past that value, the limiter on the
>:US S4 is on paper only
>
><Japanese voice>
>
>Ahh, rawsuit protection! ;}
>
></Japanese voice>
>
>not actually turned on in the ECU software),
>:according to some reputable sources on the AudiWorld forums. The car
>:should top out at or around 170 (assuming you had a place that you
>:could actually reach that speed).
>
>Are you sure it's not actually limited at all, assuming the
>source rumour is correct? 'Cause I believe even the (original)
>Euro spec cars have a 155 mph governor... which I personally
>don't think is outrageous[ly low], but clearly a small
>proportion of owners does.
I've read of people exploring the limits of the car on AudiWorld,
although I have no first hand experience. I believe that the limiter
value is indeed set to 155 in the ECU but the limiter flag itself is
actually set to false, which disables the function. The lack of a
speed limiter isn't really an issue since the speed (even at 155)
is still well beyond any legally acceptable level on any public road
in the US. 155 is something that the European community has agreed
on I believe so I'm not sure the fact that it might not be implemented
on a US spec car would be all that significant.
If you would like to look into this further, I suggest going to the
AudiWorld.com or B6S4.com web sites and searching for information on
"speed limiter" or "governor".
- Charlie
04 S4 MT6
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
"Fred W" <Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:tfCdnWTY4eukHC3cRVn-3Q@adelphia.com...
> GRL wrote:
> > It may drive great and you can't tell how ugly it may be from inside,
but
> > remember, every time that you go to drive it you're going to have to
look at
> > it before you get inside.
> >
> > A great drive is a great drive only while you're driving, but ugly is
> > forever.
> >
> > - GRL
>
> Pshaa! When most people are concerned about these cars' supposed
> "ugliness", what they are really concerned about is what other people
> will think about the car when they drive by in it.
Vanity isn't the only reason why people criticize the aesthetics of
these cars. Many people criticize these designs because they expect a lofty
$50k car to encompass more than just great function; they expect beautiful
form as well. And they -- or should I say we -- feel that many of both BMW's
and Audi's latest designs have taken a step backward in that regard.
Rob
2002 A4 3.0Q
2005 TT 3.2 DSG
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
"Fred W" <Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:tfCdnWTY4eukHC3cRVn-3Q@adelphia.com...
> GRL wrote:
> > It may drive great and you can't tell how ugly it may be from inside,
but
> > remember, every time that you go to drive it you're going to have to
look at
> > it before you get inside.
> >
> > A great drive is a great drive only while you're driving, but ugly is
> > forever.
> >
> > - GRL
>
> Pshaa! When most people are concerned about these cars' supposed
> "ugliness", what they are really concerned about is what other people
> will think about the car when they drive by in it.
Vanity isn't the only reason why people criticize the aesthetics of
these cars. Many people criticize these designs because they expect a lofty
$50k car to encompass more than just great function; they expect beautiful
form as well. And they -- or should I say we -- feel that many of both BMW's
and Audi's latest designs have taken a step backward in that regard.
Rob
2002 A4 3.0Q
2005 TT 3.2 DSG
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
"Fred W" <Fred.Wills@SPAMmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:tfCdnWTY4eukHC3cRVn-3Q@adelphia.com...
> GRL wrote:
> > It may drive great and you can't tell how ugly it may be from inside,
but
> > remember, every time that you go to drive it you're going to have to
look at
> > it before you get inside.
> >
> > A great drive is a great drive only while you're driving, but ugly is
> > forever.
> >
> > - GRL
>
> Pshaa! When most people are concerned about these cars' supposed
> "ugliness", what they are really concerned about is what other people
> will think about the car when they drive by in it.
Vanity isn't the only reason why people criticize the aesthetics of
these cars. Many people criticize these designs because they expect a lofty
$50k car to encompass more than just great function; they expect beautiful
form as well. And they -- or should I say we -- feel that many of both BMW's
and Audi's latest designs have taken a step backward in that regard.
Rob
2002 A4 3.0Q
2005 TT 3.2 DSG
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Re: 2005 545i vs 2005 A6 4.2
>what they are really concerned about is what other people
>> will think about the car when they drive by in it.
BMW's yealry sales in North America are built almost entirely on the brand's
image. Break 1,000 BMW owners into groups of 10 and I bet that 9 out of every
10 of them will tell you that brand image helped sell them on the car. Audi
lacks the image and recognition of BMW and that's a big part of why they can't
sell as many cars. It also doesn't help that the average Audi (S and RS models
aside) can't hold a candle to the capabiltities of the average BMW. The A4 and
A6 simply cannot match the overall dynamics of the 3 and 5-series models.
Steve Grauman
>> will think about the car when they drive by in it.
BMW's yealry sales in North America are built almost entirely on the brand's
image. Break 1,000 BMW owners into groups of 10 and I bet that 9 out of every
10 of them will tell you that brand image helped sell them on the car. Audi
lacks the image and recognition of BMW and that's a big part of why they can't
sell as many cars. It also doesn't help that the average Audi (S and RS models
aside) can't hold a candle to the capabiltities of the average BMW. The A4 and
A6 simply cannot match the overall dynamics of the 3 and 5-series models.
Steve Grauman