Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
11-08-2003, 09:19 AM
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Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
Dear all,
I've just found out the rough way my mechanic accidentally broke the bottom
part of the oil stick cap where plastic¿? meets the metal. My concern is
that even if there is the obvious oil filter, if any plastic?¿ has fallen
through the dip, it might melt and get through to the engine. I'm
particularly worried about getting any possible clogging of the injectors.
Any answers appreciated,
JP
I've just found out the rough way my mechanic accidentally broke the bottom
part of the oil stick cap where plastic¿? meets the metal. My concern is
that even if there is the obvious oil filter, if any plastic?¿ has fallen
through the dip, it might melt and get through to the engine. I'm
particularly worried about getting any possible clogging of the injectors.
Any answers appreciated,
JP
11-08-2003, 09:53 AM
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Re: Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
JP Roberts writes
>
>I've just found out the rough way my mechanic accidentally broke the bottom
>part of the oil stick cap where plastic¿? meets the metal. My concern is
>that even if there is the obvious oil filter, if any plastic?¿ has fallen
>through the dip, it might melt and get through to the engine. I'm
>particularly worried about getting any possible clogging of the injectors.
>
>Any answers appreciated,
>
>JP
If it's anything like a 65 Corvair, the dip stick goes directly into the oil
pan. I busted the pan of a 65 Corvair, took it off and had the machine shop
where I was stationed in the Navy (back woods country, you don't wanna know)
bang it out and repair the crack. While I was putting the pan back on I
noticed that the dip stick rattled -- it was a rattle I had been trying to find
for over a year. Two problems solved that day.
Have your mechanic take the oild pan off. Anything he finds he can keep.
Dave
http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html
>
>I've just found out the rough way my mechanic accidentally broke the bottom
>part of the oil stick cap where plastic¿? meets the metal. My concern is
>that even if there is the obvious oil filter, if any plastic?¿ has fallen
>through the dip, it might melt and get through to the engine. I'm
>particularly worried about getting any possible clogging of the injectors.
>
>Any answers appreciated,
>
>JP
If it's anything like a 65 Corvair, the dip stick goes directly into the oil
pan. I busted the pan of a 65 Corvair, took it off and had the machine shop
where I was stationed in the Navy (back woods country, you don't wanna know)
bang it out and repair the crack. While I was putting the pan back on I
noticed that the dip stick rattled -- it was a rattle I had been trying to find
for over a year. Two problems solved that day.
Have your mechanic take the oild pan off. Anything he finds he can keep.
Dave
http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html
11-08-2003, 11:10 AM
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Re: Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 16:19:34 +0100, "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Dear all,
>
>I've just found out the rough way my mechanic accidentally broke the bottom
>part of the oil stick cap where plastic¿? meets the metal. My concern is
>that even if there is the obvious oil filter, if any plastic?¿ has fallen
>through the dip, it might melt and get through to the engine. I'm
>particularly worried about getting any possible clogging of the injectors.
>
>Any answers appreciated,
First, there's no path from the oil system to your injector nozzles. You could
fill the pan with beer and you'd never have any of it reach the injectors
Second, that plastic bit has been sitting in your oil pan for how long now -
without melting? What would make you think there's suddenly a risk of it
melting now?
I wouldn't worry about it...
>Dear all,
>
>I've just found out the rough way my mechanic accidentally broke the bottom
>part of the oil stick cap where plastic¿? meets the metal. My concern is
>that even if there is the obvious oil filter, if any plastic?¿ has fallen
>through the dip, it might melt and get through to the engine. I'm
>particularly worried about getting any possible clogging of the injectors.
>
>Any answers appreciated,
First, there's no path from the oil system to your injector nozzles. You could
fill the pan with beer and you'd never have any of it reach the injectors
Second, that plastic bit has been sitting in your oil pan for how long now -
without melting? What would make you think there's suddenly a risk of it
melting now?
I wouldn't worry about it...
11-09-2003, 12:23 AM
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Re: Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
Seriously though ...
If the mech broke the cap so that it leaks vacuum it will screw up the
overall engine vacuum and the way it runs.
A back yard mechanic test for the type 44s is to pull the dip stick when
the engine is idling. If it causes the engine to idle rough and almost
die then the dipstick seal must be holding vacuum when it is in place
and there are no other leaks in the system.
Sounds to me like the mechanic owes you at least one new dipstick.
Tony
'91 100Q 5spd
Dave LaCourse wrote:
> DT writes:
>
>
>>I wouldn't worry about it...
>
>
> Good advice. But if you hear a rattle........... d;o)
>
>
>
>
>
If the mech broke the cap so that it leaks vacuum it will screw up the
overall engine vacuum and the way it runs.
A back yard mechanic test for the type 44s is to pull the dip stick when
the engine is idling. If it causes the engine to idle rough and almost
die then the dipstick seal must be holding vacuum when it is in place
and there are no other leaks in the system.
Sounds to me like the mechanic owes you at least one new dipstick.
Tony
'91 100Q 5spd
Dave LaCourse wrote:
> DT writes:
>
>
>>I wouldn't worry about it...
>
>
> Good advice. But if you hear a rattle........... d;o)
>
>
>
>
>
11-09-2003, 03:08 PM
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Re: Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
Thanks to all, and in particular to you, Tony. I think you've finally shed
some light on the (up to now) unsubstantiated erratic rise in idle rpm.
JP Roberts
"TonyJ" <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Seriously though ...
>
> If the mech broke the cap so that it leaks vacuum it will screw up the
> overall engine vacuum and the way it runs.
>
> A back yard mechanic test for the type 44s is to pull the dip stick when
> the engine is idling. If it causes the engine to idle rough and almost
> die then the dipstick seal must be holding vacuum when it is in place
> and there are no other leaks in the system.
>
> Sounds to me like the mechanic owes you at least one new dipstick.
>
> Tony
> '91 100Q 5spd
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
> > DT writes:
> >
> >
> >>I wouldn't worry about it...
> >
> >
> > Good advice. But if you hear a rattle........... d;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
some light on the (up to now) unsubstantiated erratic rise in idle rpm.
JP Roberts
"TonyJ" <tonyjNOSPAM@NOSPAMvisi.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:3faddca0$0$41290$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com ...
> Seriously though ...
>
> If the mech broke the cap so that it leaks vacuum it will screw up the
> overall engine vacuum and the way it runs.
>
> A back yard mechanic test for the type 44s is to pull the dip stick when
> the engine is idling. If it causes the engine to idle rough and almost
> die then the dipstick seal must be holding vacuum when it is in place
> and there are no other leaks in the system.
>
> Sounds to me like the mechanic owes you at least one new dipstick.
>
> Tony
> '91 100Q 5spd
>
> Dave LaCourse wrote:
> > DT writes:
> >
> >
> >>I wouldn't worry about it...
> >
> >
> > Good advice. But if you hear a rattle........... d;o)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
11-10-2003, 11:51 AM
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Re: Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
No make, no model, just speculation here.
Many of the older cars had a plastic dipstick guide tube at the top.
They used to be red plastic, now they're orange. They bust all the
time, they cost under $2. The plastic left in the tube won't hurt a
thing.
Guide tubes have been breaking since the early 80's.
Sounds to me like your mechanic doesn't know VW's.
>
>Sounds to me like the mechanic owes you at least one new dipstick.
>
>Tony
>'91 100Q 5spd
Many of the older cars had a plastic dipstick guide tube at the top.
They used to be red plastic, now they're orange. They bust all the
time, they cost under $2. The plastic left in the tube won't hurt a
thing.
Guide tubes have been breaking since the early 80's.
Sounds to me like your mechanic doesn't know VW's.
>
>Sounds to me like the mechanic owes you at least one new dipstick.
>
>Tony
>'91 100Q 5spd
11-10-2003, 03:01 PM
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Re: Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
I've just learned the plastic guide tube at the top could be replaced. Now
the replacement I got is different from the original one, and as the bottom
part had come to pieces, I have no way of checking the length sticks to
original size. I'm worried I may damage either the engine or the catalitic
convertor if I don't get the level right.
JP
"JPF" <frickjp@zzzzzzzzzzzz.net> escribió en el mensaje
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> No make, no model, just speculation here.
> Many of the older cars had a plastic dipstick guide tube at the top.
> They used to be red plastic, now they're orange. They bust all the
> time, they cost under $2. The plastic left in the tube won't hurt a
> thing.
> Guide tubes have been breaking since the early 80's.
> Sounds to me like your mechanic doesn't know VW's.
> >
> >Sounds to me like the mechanic owes you at least one new dipstick.
> >
> >Tony
> >'91 100Q 5spd
>
the replacement I got is different from the original one, and as the bottom
part had come to pieces, I have no way of checking the length sticks to
original size. I'm worried I may damage either the engine or the catalitic
convertor if I don't get the level right.
JP
"JPF" <frickjp@zzzzzzzzzzzz.net> escribió en el mensaje
news:0rjvqv8s3fj9h02gkn7p4ft1jfd3c8ft87@4ax.com...
> No make, no model, just speculation here.
> Many of the older cars had a plastic dipstick guide tube at the top.
> They used to be red plastic, now they're orange. They bust all the
> time, they cost under $2. The plastic left in the tube won't hurt a
> thing.
> Guide tubes have been breaking since the early 80's.
> Sounds to me like your mechanic doesn't know VW's.
> >
> >Sounds to me like the mechanic owes you at least one new dipstick.
> >
> >Tony
> >'91 100Q 5spd
>
11-11-2003, 07:31 AM
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Re: Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
They're all the same size. Put it on. If they changed the length,
every dipstick would have to be replaced with the tube. Make sense?
There is a right and wrong way to install it. The open end goes up,
the end with thw VW logo goes down.
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:01:56 +0100, "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I've just learned the plastic guide tube at the top could be replaced. Now
>the replacement I got is different from the original one, and as the bottom
>part had come to pieces, I have no way of checking the length sticks to
>original size. I'm worried I may damage either the engine or the catalitic
>convertor if I don't get the level right.
>
>JP
every dipstick would have to be replaced with the tube. Make sense?
There is a right and wrong way to install it. The open end goes up,
the end with thw VW logo goes down.
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:01:56 +0100, "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I've just learned the plastic guide tube at the top could be replaced. Now
>the replacement I got is different from the original one, and as the bottom
>part had come to pieces, I have no way of checking the length sticks to
>original size. I'm worried I may damage either the engine or the catalitic
>convertor if I don't get the level right.
>
>JP
11-11-2003, 09:17 AM
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Re: Worn out OIL STICK and Dr Krieger's advice needed
"JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<booubu$52s$1@news.ya.com>...
> I've just learned the plastic guide tube at the top could be replaced. Now
> the replacement I got is different from the original one, and as the bottom
> part had come to pieces, I have no way of checking the length sticks to
> original size. I'm worried I may damage either the engine or the catalitic
> convertor if I don't get the level right.
So *borrow* a dipstick from someone with the same engine as yours and
put yours together!
--
C.R. Krieger
(A lawyer, not a doctor - don't even play one on TV)
> I've just learned the plastic guide tube at the top could be replaced. Now
> the replacement I got is different from the original one, and as the bottom
> part had come to pieces, I have no way of checking the length sticks to
> original size. I'm worried I may damage either the engine or the catalitic
> convertor if I don't get the level right.
So *borrow* a dipstick from someone with the same engine as yours and
put yours together!
--
C.R. Krieger
(A lawyer, not a doctor - don't even play one on TV)
