Which Vag-Com?
#21
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Re: Which Vag-Com?
Jim,
Remember if you do go cheap you will be only out that $20 to buy the clone.
The $99 to unlock the ross-tech.com software can be applied to the purchase
of their adapter if you need/want it.
So if you want to hook up to the VW and Audi that you have........try out
the clone.
I think that I would. $20 what the heck I spend that on a take out meal for
the family. lol
But remember that the clone will ONLY work fully on the computer with the
unlocked software! 8^)
"Jim Elbrecht" <elbrecht@email.com> wrote in message
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> As soon as I posted I saw your answer-
>
> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:45:22 GMT, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
> <vwdoc1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> -snip-
>>Yes you could save some $$ purchasing a clone adapter, but if you purchase
>>the real thing and don't need it anymore you can always sell it over $100
>>recouping some of the purchase price. It usually pays for itself on the
>>first 1-2 repairs when you use it. A true investment!
>
> Thanks-
> Over $100?. . . appears to be an understatement.<g> 4 days to go
> and there is one on Ebay now at $170 with 22 bids. I think you
> sold me.
> [ebay item 320142427324 ]
>
> -snip-
>>If my answer seems vague............I vote you purchase the real adapter
>>from ross-tech.com, I have 2 of them.
>
> I'm leaning that way because of the resale value, and because I'm sure
> to have questions once I start using it, and it seems like there are a
> lot more folks using the Ross-Tech stuff.
>
> Just in case I decide to go cheap-
> Do you know how limited the earlier versions of the software are for
> my older VW & Audi? [97 Golf/Cabrio & 98 A4]
>
> Thanks again-
> Jim
>
Remember if you do go cheap you will be only out that $20 to buy the clone.
The $99 to unlock the ross-tech.com software can be applied to the purchase
of their adapter if you need/want it.
So if you want to hook up to the VW and Audi that you have........try out
the clone.
I think that I would. $20 what the heck I spend that on a take out meal for
the family. lol
But remember that the clone will ONLY work fully on the computer with the
unlocked software! 8^)
"Jim Elbrecht" <elbrecht@email.com> wrote in message
news:dku0b3lf1c1ssd8edh2orlhvn4a4422scg@4ax.com...
> As soon as I posted I saw your answer-
>
> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 11:45:22 GMT, "dave AKA vwdoc1"
> <vwdoc1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> -snip-
>>Yes you could save some $$ purchasing a clone adapter, but if you purchase
>>the real thing and don't need it anymore you can always sell it over $100
>>recouping some of the purchase price. It usually pays for itself on the
>>first 1-2 repairs when you use it. A true investment!
>
> Thanks-
> Over $100?. . . appears to be an understatement.<g> 4 days to go
> and there is one on Ebay now at $170 with 22 bids. I think you
> sold me.
> [ebay item 320142427324 ]
>
> -snip-
>>If my answer seems vague............I vote you purchase the real adapter
>>from ross-tech.com, I have 2 of them.
>
> I'm leaning that way because of the resale value, and because I'm sure
> to have questions once I start using it, and it seems like there are a
> lot more folks using the Ross-Tech stuff.
>
> Just in case I decide to go cheap-
> Do you know how limited the earlier versions of the software are for
> my older VW & Audi? [97 Golf/Cabrio & 98 A4]
>
> Thanks again-
> Jim
>
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Re: Which Vag-Com?
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>
> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
> the dealer for anyway?
>
I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
stalled out around that point.
I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles)
and turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
to play around with it.
Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
Bart
> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
> $99.]
>
>
> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>
> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
> fix myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
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>
> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>
> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
> the dealer for anyway?
>
I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
stalled out around that point.
I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles)
and turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
to play around with it.
Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
Bart
> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
> $99.]
>
>
> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>
> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
> fix myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
--
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Re: Which Vag-Com?
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>
> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
> the dealer for anyway?
>
I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
stalled out around that point.
I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles)
and turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
to play around with it.
Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
Bart
> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
> $99.]
>
>
> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>
> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
> fix myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
--
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>
> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>
> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
> the dealer for anyway?
>
I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
stalled out around that point.
I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles)
and turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
to play around with it.
Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
Bart
> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
> $99.]
>
>
> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>
> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
> fix myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
--
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Re: Which Vag-Com?
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>
> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
> the dealer for anyway?
>
I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
stalled out around that point.
I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles)
and turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
to play around with it.
Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
Bart
> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
> $99.]
>
>
> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>
> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
> fix myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
--
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>
> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>
> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
> the dealer for anyway?
>
I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
stalled out around that point.
I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles)
and turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
to play around with it.
Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
Bart
> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
> $99.]
>
>
> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>
> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
> fix myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
--
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Re: Which Vag-Com?
Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>
> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>
> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
> the dealer for anyway?
>
I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
stalled out around that point.
I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles)
and turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
to play around with it.
Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
Bart
> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
> $99.]
>
>
> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>
> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
> fix myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
--
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>
> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>
> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
> the dealer for anyway?
>
I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
stalled out around that point.
I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles)
and turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
to play around with it.
Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
Bart
> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
> $99.]
>
>
> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>
> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
> fix myself.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
--
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Re: Which Vag-Com?
You have to activate the ross-tech.com software for $99! That fee can be
applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
I prefer their adapter since it can be used on multiple computers and is not
"married" to only one.
The first one of theirs I bought, and it was the earliest adapters, did not
work at all and they sent me a new one the next day. Great service!!
Not sure if I can say that it is simple to determine what is wrong all of
the time. You will need a Bentley to help determine how to fix certain
issues. It might tell you that the right front wheel sensor is bad if you
have an ABS light come on, or it might tell you some issue with Fuel Trim.
After a few times of getting your codes checked at the dealer for $70+ per
issue, having your own adapter will pay for itself. AND you can always sell
it to recoup most of your $$$ back too!
But if you are not going to work on your own VW/Audi then why spend the $$$
at all for the tool.
JMHO
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
"Bart Oleksy" <barto@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:46c9dd83$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
>> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
>> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
>> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
>> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>>
>> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
>> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
>> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
>> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
>> the dealer for anyway?
>>
> I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
> already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
> connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
> connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
> stalled out around that point.
>
> I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
> country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles) and
> turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
>
> Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
>
> But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
> to play around with it.
>
> Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
>
> Bart
>
>> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
>> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
>> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
>> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
>> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
>> $99.]
>>
>>
>> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
>> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>>
>> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
>> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
>> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
>> fix myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
I prefer their adapter since it can be used on multiple computers and is not
"married" to only one.
The first one of theirs I bought, and it was the earliest adapters, did not
work at all and they sent me a new one the next day. Great service!!
Not sure if I can say that it is simple to determine what is wrong all of
the time. You will need a Bentley to help determine how to fix certain
issues. It might tell you that the right front wheel sensor is bad if you
have an ABS light come on, or it might tell you some issue with Fuel Trim.
After a few times of getting your codes checked at the dealer for $70+ per
issue, having your own adapter will pay for itself. AND you can always sell
it to recoup most of your $$$ back too!
But if you are not going to work on your own VW/Audi then why spend the $$$
at all for the tool.
JMHO
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
"Bart Oleksy" <barto@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:46c9dd83$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
>> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
>> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
>> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
>> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>>
>> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
>> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
>> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
>> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
>> the dealer for anyway?
>>
> I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
> already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
> connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
> connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
> stalled out around that point.
>
> I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
> country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles) and
> turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
>
> Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
>
> But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
> to play around with it.
>
> Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
>
> Bart
>
>> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
>> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
>> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
>> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
>> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
>> $99.]
>>
>>
>> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
>> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>>
>> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
>> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
>> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
>> fix myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Which Vag-Com?
You have to activate the ross-tech.com software for $99! That fee can be
applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
I prefer their adapter since it can be used on multiple computers and is not
"married" to only one.
The first one of theirs I bought, and it was the earliest adapters, did not
work at all and they sent me a new one the next day. Great service!!
Not sure if I can say that it is simple to determine what is wrong all of
the time. You will need a Bentley to help determine how to fix certain
issues. It might tell you that the right front wheel sensor is bad if you
have an ABS light come on, or it might tell you some issue with Fuel Trim.
After a few times of getting your codes checked at the dealer for $70+ per
issue, having your own adapter will pay for itself. AND you can always sell
it to recoup most of your $$$ back too!
But if you are not going to work on your own VW/Audi then why spend the $$$
at all for the tool.
JMHO
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
"Bart Oleksy" <barto@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:46c9dd83$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
>> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
>> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
>> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
>> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>>
>> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
>> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
>> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
>> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
>> the dealer for anyway?
>>
> I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
> already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
> connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
> connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
> stalled out around that point.
>
> I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
> country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles) and
> turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
>
> Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
>
> But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
> to play around with it.
>
> Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
>
> Bart
>
>> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
>> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
>> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
>> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
>> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
>> $99.]
>>
>>
>> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
>> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>>
>> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
>> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
>> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
>> fix myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
I prefer their adapter since it can be used on multiple computers and is not
"married" to only one.
The first one of theirs I bought, and it was the earliest adapters, did not
work at all and they sent me a new one the next day. Great service!!
Not sure if I can say that it is simple to determine what is wrong all of
the time. You will need a Bentley to help determine how to fix certain
issues. It might tell you that the right front wheel sensor is bad if you
have an ABS light come on, or it might tell you some issue with Fuel Trim.
After a few times of getting your codes checked at the dealer for $70+ per
issue, having your own adapter will pay for itself. AND you can always sell
it to recoup most of your $$$ back too!
But if you are not going to work on your own VW/Audi then why spend the $$$
at all for the tool.
JMHO
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
"Bart Oleksy" <barto@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:46c9dd83$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
>> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
>> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
>> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
>> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>>
>> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
>> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
>> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
>> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
>> the dealer for anyway?
>>
> I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
> already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
> connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
> connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
> stalled out around that point.
>
> I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
> country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles) and
> turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
>
> Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
>
> But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
> to play around with it.
>
> Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
>
> Bart
>
>> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
>> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
>> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
>> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
>> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
>> $99.]
>>
>>
>> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
>> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>>
>> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
>> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
>> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
>> fix myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Which Vag-Com?
You have to activate the ross-tech.com software for $99! That fee can be
applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
I prefer their adapter since it can be used on multiple computers and is not
"married" to only one.
The first one of theirs I bought, and it was the earliest adapters, did not
work at all and they sent me a new one the next day. Great service!!
Not sure if I can say that it is simple to determine what is wrong all of
the time. You will need a Bentley to help determine how to fix certain
issues. It might tell you that the right front wheel sensor is bad if you
have an ABS light come on, or it might tell you some issue with Fuel Trim.
After a few times of getting your codes checked at the dealer for $70+ per
issue, having your own adapter will pay for itself. AND you can always sell
it to recoup most of your $$$ back too!
But if you are not going to work on your own VW/Audi then why spend the $$$
at all for the tool.
JMHO
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
"Bart Oleksy" <barto@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:46c9dd83$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
>> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
>> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
>> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
>> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>>
>> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
>> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
>> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
>> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
>> the dealer for anyway?
>>
> I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
> already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
> connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
> connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
> stalled out around that point.
>
> I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
> country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles) and
> turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
>
> Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
>
> But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
> to play around with it.
>
> Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
>
> Bart
>
>> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
>> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
>> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
>> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
>> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
>> $99.]
>>
>>
>> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
>> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>>
>> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
>> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
>> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
>> fix myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
I prefer their adapter since it can be used on multiple computers and is not
"married" to only one.
The first one of theirs I bought, and it was the earliest adapters, did not
work at all and they sent me a new one the next day. Great service!!
Not sure if I can say that it is simple to determine what is wrong all of
the time. You will need a Bentley to help determine how to fix certain
issues. It might tell you that the right front wheel sensor is bad if you
have an ABS light come on, or it might tell you some issue with Fuel Trim.
After a few times of getting your codes checked at the dealer for $70+ per
issue, having your own adapter will pay for itself. AND you can always sell
it to recoup most of your $$$ back too!
But if you are not going to work on your own VW/Audi then why spend the $$$
at all for the tool.
JMHO
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
"Bart Oleksy" <barto@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:46c9dd83$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
>> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
>> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
>> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
>> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>>
>> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
>> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
>> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
>> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
>> the dealer for anyway?
>>
> I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
> already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
> connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
> connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
> stalled out around that point.
>
> I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
> country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles) and
> turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
>
> Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
>
> But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
> to play around with it.
>
> Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
>
> Bart
>
>> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
>> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
>> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
>> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
>> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
>> $99.]
>>
>>
>> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
>> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>>
>> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
>> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
>> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
>> fix myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Which Vag-Com?
You have to activate the ross-tech.com software for $99! That fee can be
applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
I prefer their adapter since it can be used on multiple computers and is not
"married" to only one.
The first one of theirs I bought, and it was the earliest adapters, did not
work at all and they sent me a new one the next day. Great service!!
Not sure if I can say that it is simple to determine what is wrong all of
the time. You will need a Bentley to help determine how to fix certain
issues. It might tell you that the right front wheel sensor is bad if you
have an ABS light come on, or it might tell you some issue with Fuel Trim.
After a few times of getting your codes checked at the dealer for $70+ per
issue, having your own adapter will pay for itself. AND you can always sell
it to recoup most of your $$$ back too!
But if you are not going to work on your own VW/Audi then why spend the $$$
at all for the tool.
JMHO
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
"Bart Oleksy" <barto@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:46c9dd83$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
>> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
>> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
>> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
>> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>>
>> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
>> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
>> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
>> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
>> the dealer for anyway?
>>
> I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
> already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
> connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
> connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
> stalled out around that point.
>
> I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
> country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles) and
> turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
>
> Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
>
> But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
> to play around with it.
>
> Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
>
> Bart
>
>> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
>> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
>> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
>> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
>> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
>> $99.]
>>
>>
>> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
>> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>>
>> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
>> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
>> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
>> fix myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
I prefer their adapter since it can be used on multiple computers and is not
"married" to only one.
The first one of theirs I bought, and it was the earliest adapters, did not
work at all and they sent me a new one the next day. Great service!!
Not sure if I can say that it is simple to determine what is wrong all of
the time. You will need a Bentley to help determine how to fix certain
issues. It might tell you that the right front wheel sensor is bad if you
have an ABS light come on, or it might tell you some issue with Fuel Trim.
After a few times of getting your codes checked at the dealer for $70+ per
issue, having your own adapter will pay for itself. AND you can always sell
it to recoup most of your $$$ back too!
But if you are not going to work on your own VW/Audi then why spend the $$$
at all for the tool.
JMHO
--
later,
dave
(One out of many daves)
"Bart Oleksy" <barto@nerdshack.com> wrote in message
news:46c9dd83$0$16309$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>
>> I'd found Ross-Tech's FAQ- but that just answers questions about
>> *their* software/cables. [And even at that I'm not sure if I'd be
>> happy with their shareware/freeware, or if I'd feel the need to shell
>> out "$299-$599" for their newest, registered software.]
>> http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
>>
>> When they say their shareware software has "limited" ability to "Read
>> fault codes" - is it so limited that I'll curse it every time a light
>> comes on the dash [like the ABS light that is now on on the 97 Cabrio]
>> or will it just not have some exotic stuff that I'd end up going to
>> the dealer for anyway?
>>
> I have some similar questions, even though I've sprung for a clone cable
> already & downloaded the shareware software. I did manage to get a
> connection with the laptop (had to tell the program I had a serial
> connection, even though the cable was plugged into the USB port), but
> stalled out around that point.
>
> I was just looking to do a couple of very simple things, like change the
> country code (e.g., odometer display changes to kilometers from miles) and
> turn off the various service indicators for oil changes & the like.
>
> Haven't had much success finding codes & such for those kinds of tasks.
>
> But so far I'm only out the $20-ish for the clone cable so it's not much
> to play around with it.
>
> Any other thoughts on the topic out there??
>
> Bart
>
>> [If I go with the Ross-Tech software I've obviously got to read some
>> more on that site as yesterday I saw a page where I could buy the
>> cable for $99 and download the software for free-- today I just see
>> the "buy the cable and software for $229". .. and another where I
>> could download "registered shareware" for use with 3d party cables for
>> $99.]
>>
>>
>> Is the Ross-tech's software as good or better than some other vendors
>> like Lemmiwinks or Vag PC Diagnoses?
>>
>> I know *good* is often in the eye of the beholder, but I'm looking for
>> simple, but thorough nuts and bolts software. I won't be super tuning
>> either car, but I like to avoid trips to the dealer for things I can
>> fix myself.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Which Vag-Com?
dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:
> You have to activate the ross-tech.com software for $99! That fee can be
> applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
Oh, and this isn't quite true. For FREE, you get a limited version of
the software. Differences are listed here on this chart:
http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
Bart
--
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> You have to activate the ross-tech.com software for $99! That fee can be
> applied to buying their adapter also. 8^)
Oh, and this isn't quite true. For FREE, you get a limited version of
the software. Differences are listed here on this chart:
http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/vag-functions.html
Bart
--
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