Mr DJ

hi there - ive bought my audi a4 1997 1.8T quattro about 6 months or so ago
and have realised that power for the engine is completely lacking recently.
now i have babied this car as best i can. syntectic old, premium gas, new
spark plugs, new air filter, engine flush - and ive only had the car for 6
months. ive also recently changed the timing belt - not that it sould
matter - but just giving the pro's in the ng some background.

ive got about 116000km on it and was thinking of geting a new turbo. the
area i live in is quite hilly, and the car has absolutely no torque from
2000rpm to 3000rpm. now im not sure if the engine is suppd to pick up on
this and shift - its an automatic - but the gears are tall and the stupid
transmission just will not shift when required - without some coazing in the
form of laying off the gas and praying.

my mehanic says this is normal. the car idles fine, drives fine, etc etc -
just no power. now im not sure if replacing the transmission fluid will be
enuf - tho i realllllly doubt this is the case since even highway driving
lacks punch. so i was hoping to buy an upgraded turbo and replace the POS
one i have now.

my question is ive seen the following turbo from neuspeed -

http://www.ndimports.com/catalog/eng...rbo%20Upgrades

the 1799$US is too steep for me - but i was wondering if there are other
units or manufacturers out there that are more reasonable. the car is an
automatic and im not exactly on the racing scene - just was hoping to get to
the point where ppl on the road dont feel they gotta keep going around me
cus i got the car floored and it aint going anywhere.

if anyone has any ideas let me know. im sure there are others with the b5
platform that have faced similar situations.

thanx again

Mr DJ

no i havent. i know im sounding like a noobie - and i am - but how do i go
about doing that? or is that something best done by a licensed mechanic?



"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <mille@afm.at> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:32:17 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >if anyone has any ideas let me know. im sure there are others with the b5
> >platform that have faced similar situations.
>
> That bad?
>
> Have you had the MAF checked?
>
> >thanx again
>
> Wolfgang

Wolfgang Pawlinetz

On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:32:17 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>if anyone has any ideas let me know. im sure there are others with the b5
>platform that have faced similar situations.

That bad?

Have you had the MAF checked?

>thanx again

Wolfgang

Mr DJ

on a sidenote - would a close-to-failed stock diverter valve cause this kind
of problem? my mechanic also mentioned a tendancy of the 1997 turbos to have
a failed wastegate problem. is this something i need to look at as well? he
said that if it is a wastegate problem its cheaper to just replace the turbo
when u factor in labor to replace the turbo.



"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <mille@afm.at> wrote in message
news:09cj70l19s2blbhh3m521qojkmq8h0re8n@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:32:17 GMT, "Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >if anyone has any ideas let me know. im sure there are others with the b5
> >platform that have faced similar situations.
>
> That bad?
>
> Have you had the MAF checked?
>
> >thanx again
>
> Wolfgang

Mr DJ

i can prob get my hands on a laptop - i bought the vag interface off ebay
and tested it once with the VAg software. is there a particular module in
the software i need to run and a particular code im lookin for? sorry - i
only ran it once about 4 months ago and havent bothered since cus i dint
have a problem at the time and the laptop wasnt easily available.




"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Mr DJ" wrote
>
> > no i havent. i know im sounding like a noobie - and i am - but how do
> i go
> > about doing that? or is that something best done by a licensed
> mechanic?
>
> Bad MAF will throw error codes in the ECU memory. Find someone with a
> VAG-tool or just go to a VW/Audi mechanic - most should have the tools
> to read the error codes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
>

Pete

"Mr DJ" wrote

> no i havent. i know im sounding like a noobie - and i am - but how do
i go
> about doing that? or is that something best done by a licensed
mechanic?

Bad MAF will throw error codes in the ECU memory. Find someone with a
VAG-tool or just go to a VW/Audi mechanic - most should have the tools
to read the error codes.

Cheers,

Pete

Pete

"Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ec87557eb14c42ac176c36ce106cbdf2@news.teranew s.com...
> i can prob get my hands on a laptop - i bought the vag interface off
ebay
> and tested it once with the VAg software. is there a particular module
in
> the software i need to run and a particular code im lookin for?
sorry - i
> only ran it once about 4 months ago and havent bothered since cus i
dint
> have a problem at the time and the laptop wasnt easily available.

Check this page for error code list:
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/tec.../dtc.table.htm

Any code with "Mass or Volume Airflow" in the description would probably
apply.

Not having a VAG-COM tool personally, I can't tell you how to read the
error codes, but check www.ross-tech.com site - you might find the info
there somewhere. Alternatively search the archives on
www.audiworld.com.

Cheers,

Pete

Pete

"Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:81ef38c4e0459de603861f149b18fba6@news.teranew s.com...
> on a sidenote - would a close-to-failed stock diverter valve cause
this kind
> of problem?

A failed/failing DV would not allow you to hold boost (and not just in
the 2000-3000rpm range) and would also probably make very characteristic
honking noises. If you're running stock ECU programming, then most
likely you're not producing enough boost to make the stock DV fail, but
it's not impossible I suppose.


> my mechanic also mentioned a tendancy of the 1997 turbos to have
> a failed wastegate problem. is this something i need to look at as
well?

Yeah, that pretty much would equal a broken turbo, AFAIK. The wastegate
was upgraded starting with 1998 model year.

But start with MAF sensor first - it's the most likely culprit here and
much less expensive to replace than a turbo.

Good luck!

Pete

JP Roberts

Just replace the n75 valve with an n75j, have the MAF checked and then chip
it. Then, and only if not satisfied, go for the new turbo.

JP Roberts

"Mr DJ" <hitman247@hotmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:d8d2bb5684d1858af67df911ae8a71fa@news.teranew s.com...
> hi there - ive bought my audi a4 1997 1.8T quattro about 6 months or so
ago
> and have realised that power for the engine is completely lacking
recently.
> now i have babied this car as best i can. syntectic old, premium gas, new
> spark plugs, new air filter, engine flush - and ive only had the car for 6
> months. ive also recently changed the timing belt - not that it sould
> matter - but just giving the pro's in the ng some background.
>
> ive got about 116000km on it and was thinking of geting a new turbo. the
> area i live in is quite hilly, and the car has absolutely no torque from
> 2000rpm to 3000rpm. now im not sure if the engine is suppd to pick up on
> this and shift - its an automatic - but the gears are tall and the stupid
> transmission just will not shift when required - without some coazing in
the
> form of laying off the gas and praying.
>
> my mehanic says this is normal. the car idles fine, drives fine, etc etc -
> just no power. now im not sure if replacing the transmission fluid will be
> enuf - tho i realllllly doubt this is the case since even highway driving
> lacks punch. so i was hoping to buy an upgraded turbo and replace the POS
> one i have now.
>
> my question is ive seen the following turbo from neuspeed -
>
>
http://www.ndimports.com/catalog/eng...ct_group=turbo
_upgrade&action=step_two&title=Turbo%20Upgrades
>
> the 1799$US is too steep for me - but i was wondering if there are other
> units or manufacturers out there that are more reasonable. the car is an
> automatic and im not exactly on the racing scene - just was hoping to get
to
> the point where ppl on the road dont feel they gotta keep going around me
> cus i got the car floored and it aint going anywhere.
>
> if anyone has any ideas let me know. im sure there are others with the b5
> platform that have faced similar situations.
>
> thanx again
>
>