Turbo failure?
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Re: Turbo failure?
"Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
> for the repair or buying a new car.
>
> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
> with turbo failures, are these:
>
> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
> potential destructive power?
> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
> prospect.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Eric
And on a side note, if you car is chipped, now might be a good time to
splash out on a K04 upgrade turbo, both will cost less then the dealer, if
you went the Garret T25 route you would need injectors and a new Cooler but
all in would prob be less than the dealer is quoting for a new K03.
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Re: Turbo failure?
"Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
> for the repair or buying a new car.
>
> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
> with turbo failures, are these:
>
> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
> potential destructive power?
> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
> prospect.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Eric
And on a side note, if you car is chipped, now might be a good time to
splash out on a K04 upgrade turbo, both will cost less then the dealer, if
you went the Garret T25 route you would need injectors and a new Cooler but
all in would prob be less than the dealer is quoting for a new K03.
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Re: Turbo failure?
"Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
> for the repair or buying a new car.
>
> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
> with turbo failures, are these:
>
> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
> potential destructive power?
> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
> prospect.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Eric
And on a side note, if you car is chipped, now might be a good time to
splash out on a K04 upgrade turbo, both will cost less then the dealer, if
you went the Garret T25 route you would need injectors and a new Cooler but
all in would prob be less than the dealer is quoting for a new K03.
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Re: Turbo failure?
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>> "Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:g96mn116rq98bdrdpo655rko3kip0oof4r@4ax.com...
>>>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
>>> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
>>> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
>>> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
>>> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
>>> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
>>> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
>>> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
>>> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
>>> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
>>> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
>>> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
>>> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
>>> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
>>> for the repair or buying a new car.
>>>
>>> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
>>> with turbo failures, are these:
>>>
>>> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
>>> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
>>> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
>>> potential destructive power?
>>> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
>>> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
>>> prospect.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Eric
>>
>> I am not an expert on Turbos but I think they are telling you porkies, if
>> the turbo wheel was to shatter the worst it could do would be wreck the
>> intercooler, the air produced from the turbo goes through 1 or 2 coolers
>> before it goes back into the engine, this works like a radiator but for
>> air, the hot air is pushed through the cooler which lowers the temp and
>> pushes it back into the engine.
>>
>> 1 IC on the 150/163bhp A4 and 2 x IC's on the 190bhp
> It's not pushed 'back' into the engine.
> It's pushed into the engine and there it can cause a lot of damage into
> the cylinders.
>
> Ronald
>
>
Would you like to explain how ?
And it is recycled air taken from the exhaust so it is pushed back into the
engine.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/turbo-plumbing.gif
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Re: Turbo failure?
"R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
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>> "Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:g96mn116rq98bdrdpo655rko3kip0oof4r@4ax.com...
>>>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
>>> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
>>> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
>>> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
>>> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
>>> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
>>> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
>>> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
>>> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
>>> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
>>> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
>>> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
>>> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
>>> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
>>> for the repair or buying a new car.
>>>
>>> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
>>> with turbo failures, are these:
>>>
>>> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
>>> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
>>> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
>>> potential destructive power?
>>> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
>>> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
>>> prospect.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Eric
>>
>> I am not an expert on Turbos but I think they are telling you porkies, if
>> the turbo wheel was to shatter the worst it could do would be wreck the
>> intercooler, the air produced from the turbo goes through 1 or 2 coolers
>> before it goes back into the engine, this works like a radiator but for
>> air, the hot air is pushed through the cooler which lowers the temp and
>> pushes it back into the engine.
>>
>> 1 IC on the 150/163bhp A4 and 2 x IC's on the 190bhp
> It's not pushed 'back' into the engine.
> It's pushed into the engine and there it can cause a lot of damage into
> the cylinders.
>
> Ronald
>
>
Would you like to explain how ?
And it is recycled air taken from the exhaust so it is pushed back into the
engine.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/turbo-plumbing.gif
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"R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
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>> "Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:g96mn116rq98bdrdpo655rko3kip0oof4r@4ax.com...
>>>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
>>> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
>>> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
>>> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
>>> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
>>> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
>>> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
>>> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
>>> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
>>> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
>>> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
>>> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
>>> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
>>> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
>>> for the repair or buying a new car.
>>>
>>> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
>>> with turbo failures, are these:
>>>
>>> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
>>> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
>>> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
>>> potential destructive power?
>>> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
>>> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
>>> prospect.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Eric
>>
>> I am not an expert on Turbos but I think they are telling you porkies, if
>> the turbo wheel was to shatter the worst it could do would be wreck the
>> intercooler, the air produced from the turbo goes through 1 or 2 coolers
>> before it goes back into the engine, this works like a radiator but for
>> air, the hot air is pushed through the cooler which lowers the temp and
>> pushes it back into the engine.
>>
>> 1 IC on the 150/163bhp A4 and 2 x IC's on the 190bhp
> It's not pushed 'back' into the engine.
> It's pushed into the engine and there it can cause a lot of damage into
> the cylinders.
>
> Ronald
>
>
Would you like to explain how ?
And it is recycled air taken from the exhaust so it is pushed back into the
engine.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/turbo-plumbing.gif
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"R@L" <reply@usenet.com> wrote in message
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>> "Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:g96mn116rq98bdrdpo655rko3kip0oof4r@4ax.com...
>>>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
>>> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
>>> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
>>> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
>>> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
>>> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
>>> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
>>> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
>>> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
>>> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
>>> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
>>> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
>>> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
>>> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
>>> for the repair or buying a new car.
>>>
>>> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
>>> with turbo failures, are these:
>>>
>>> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
>>> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
>>> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
>>> potential destructive power?
>>> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
>>> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
>>> prospect.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Eric
>>
>> I am not an expert on Turbos but I think they are telling you porkies, if
>> the turbo wheel was to shatter the worst it could do would be wreck the
>> intercooler, the air produced from the turbo goes through 1 or 2 coolers
>> before it goes back into the engine, this works like a radiator but for
>> air, the hot air is pushed through the cooler which lowers the temp and
>> pushes it back into the engine.
>>
>> 1 IC on the 150/163bhp A4 and 2 x IC's on the 190bhp
> It's not pushed 'back' into the engine.
> It's pushed into the engine and there it can cause a lot of damage into
> the cylinders.
>
> Ronald
>
>
Would you like to explain how ?
And it is recycled air taken from the exhaust so it is pushed back into the
engine.
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/turbo-plumbing.gif
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>>> "Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g96mn116rq98bdrdpo655rko3kip0oof4r@4ax.com...
>>>>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
>>>> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
>>>> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
>>>> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
>>>> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
>>>> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
>>>> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
>>>> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
>>>> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
>>>> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
>>>> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
>>>> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
>>>> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
>>>> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
>>>> for the repair or buying a new car.
>>>>
>>>> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
>>>> with turbo failures, are these:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
>>>> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
>>>> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
>>>> potential destructive power?
>>>> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
>>>> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
>>>> prospect.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Eric
>>>
>>> I am not an expert on Turbos but I think they are telling you porkies,
>>> if the turbo wheel was to shatter the worst it could do would be wreck
>>> the intercooler, the air produced from the turbo goes through 1 or 2
>>> coolers before it goes back into the engine, this works like a radiator
>>> but for air, the hot air is pushed through the cooler which lowers the
>>> temp and pushes it back into the engine.
>>>
>>> 1 IC on the 150/163bhp A4 and 2 x IC's on the 190bhp
>> It's not pushed 'back' into the engine.
>> It's pushed into the engine and there it can cause a lot of damage into
>> the cylinders.
>>
>> Ronald
>>
>>
>
> Would you like to explain how ?
>
> And it is recycled air taken from the exhaust so it is pushed back into
> the engine.
>
> http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/turbo-plumbing.gif
>
Quote form your other post:
Perhaps if your going to criticise peoples advice, look it up first.
Now this one.
Exhaust air is exhausted. Fresh air is pushed into the engine.
Ronald
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>>> "Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g96mn116rq98bdrdpo655rko3kip0oof4r@4ax.com...
>>>>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
>>>> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
>>>> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
>>>> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
>>>> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
>>>> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
>>>> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
>>>> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
>>>> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
>>>> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
>>>> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
>>>> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
>>>> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
>>>> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
>>>> for the repair or buying a new car.
>>>>
>>>> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
>>>> with turbo failures, are these:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
>>>> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
>>>> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
>>>> potential destructive power?
>>>> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
>>>> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
>>>> prospect.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Eric
>>>
>>> I am not an expert on Turbos but I think they are telling you porkies,
>>> if the turbo wheel was to shatter the worst it could do would be wreck
>>> the intercooler, the air produced from the turbo goes through 1 or 2
>>> coolers before it goes back into the engine, this works like a radiator
>>> but for air, the hot air is pushed through the cooler which lowers the
>>> temp and pushes it back into the engine.
>>>
>>> 1 IC on the 150/163bhp A4 and 2 x IC's on the 190bhp
>> It's not pushed 'back' into the engine.
>> It's pushed into the engine and there it can cause a lot of damage into
>> the cylinders.
>>
>> Ronald
>>
>>
>
> Would you like to explain how ?
>
> And it is recycled air taken from the exhaust so it is pushed back into
> the engine.
>
> http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/turbo-plumbing.gif
>
Quote form your other post:
Perhaps if your going to criticise peoples advice, look it up first.
Now this one.
Exhaust air is exhausted. Fresh air is pushed into the engine.
Ronald
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>>> "Eric Grunden" <ch3oh@nospam.nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g96mn116rq98bdrdpo655rko3kip0oof4r@4ax.com...
>>>>I have a 98 A4 TQM with about 125k miles on it. It's got the base
>>>> level Wetterauer chip in it. The other day, while driving, the chip
>>>> popped out of its base. The engine died, and after having it towed to
>>>> the dealer, this problem was discovered and fixed. Easy. However,
>>>> the service tech heard a noise he was unfamiliar with. They showed me
>>>> the noise, which was awful--lots of clunking at low rpm and some
>>>> whining/metal grinding at higher revs. It wasn't a huge noise--you
>>>> had to listen to it for a bit. Anyway, the tech looks it over for
>>>> another day and tells me there's metal in the turbo, and it's going to
>>>> fail at any time. At first the service consultant tells me this isn't
>>>> lethal--the car will lose power but will still be driveable. Later,
>>>> the tech says that if the turbo fails it will do so colossally,
>>>> shredding the engine with shrapnel, thus rendering my car a
>>>> paperweight. Both recommend either shelling out $2000 parts and labor
>>>> for the repair or buying a new car.
>>>>
>>>> My questions then, for any of you wise enough or experienced enough
>>>> with turbo failures, are these:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Does this price sound right for a dealer replacing the turbo?
>>>> 2. Should I get a second opinion (I am going to)?
>>>> 3. Is the failure scenario they report likely and or correct in its
>>>> potential destructive power?
>>>> 4. Can I drive it like a granny and keep the turbo from engaging to
>>>> prolong its life? Buying a car at Christmas time is not a happy
>>>> prospect.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Eric
>>>
>>> I am not an expert on Turbos but I think they are telling you porkies,
>>> if the turbo wheel was to shatter the worst it could do would be wreck
>>> the intercooler, the air produced from the turbo goes through 1 or 2
>>> coolers before it goes back into the engine, this works like a radiator
>>> but for air, the hot air is pushed through the cooler which lowers the
>>> temp and pushes it back into the engine.
>>>
>>> 1 IC on the 150/163bhp A4 and 2 x IC's on the 190bhp
>> It's not pushed 'back' into the engine.
>> It's pushed into the engine and there it can cause a lot of damage into
>> the cylinders.
>>
>> Ronald
>>
>>
>
> Would you like to explain how ?
>
> And it is recycled air taken from the exhaust so it is pushed back into
> the engine.
>
> http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/turbo-plumbing.gif
>
Quote form your other post:
Perhaps if your going to criticise peoples advice, look it up first.
Now this one.
Exhaust air is exhausted. Fresh air is pushed into the engine.
Ronald