TT 3.2
#61
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Re: TT 3.2
"Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "LeakiestWink" wrote
>> In the UK, we don't use *summer tyres*, we use all-seasons
>> tyres, 'cause we tend to get a lot of that wet stuff.
>
> And since when is "summer" considered dry pavement only?
> Summer tires are meant to handle wet pavement as well.
>
> Pete
Exactly - they are actually "all seasons" tyres. It wasn't me
who bought the "summer" tyre issue into the melting pot, it was
others.
Rgds
#62
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Re: TT 3.2
> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>
> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for something
> like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for rallying), UK tyres
> are supplied as an all seasons tyre and NOT a summer only tyre. Just
> because they don't have the words "all seasons" written on the sidewall,
> it doesn't mean they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and Snow", as
> indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>
> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry to know
> what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If you have any
> doubts, phone directly any of the UK official tyre importers or companies,
> and speak to their technical department. In all my experience, they are
> (usually) only too glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and
> surprisingly, they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
> competitors too.
The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new) and
replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre" section of their
catalogues? It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
>
> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for something
> like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for rallying), UK tyres
> are supplied as an all seasons tyre and NOT a summer only tyre. Just
> because they don't have the words "all seasons" written on the sidewall,
> it doesn't mean they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and Snow", as
> indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>
> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry to know
> what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If you have any
> doubts, phone directly any of the UK official tyre importers or companies,
> and speak to their technical department. In all my experience, they are
> (usually) only too glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and
> surprisingly, they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
> competitors too.
The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new) and
replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre" section of their
catalogues? It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
#63
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Re: TT 3.2
> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>
> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for something
> like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for rallying), UK tyres
> are supplied as an all seasons tyre and NOT a summer only tyre. Just
> because they don't have the words "all seasons" written on the sidewall,
> it doesn't mean they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and Snow", as
> indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>
> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry to know
> what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If you have any
> doubts, phone directly any of the UK official tyre importers or companies,
> and speak to their technical department. In all my experience, they are
> (usually) only too glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and
> surprisingly, they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
> competitors too.
The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new) and
replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre" section of their
catalogues? It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
>
> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for something
> like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for rallying), UK tyres
> are supplied as an all seasons tyre and NOT a summer only tyre. Just
> because they don't have the words "all seasons" written on the sidewall,
> it doesn't mean they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and Snow", as
> indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>
> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry to know
> what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If you have any
> doubts, phone directly any of the UK official tyre importers or companies,
> and speak to their technical department. In all my experience, they are
> (usually) only too glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and
> surprisingly, they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
> competitors too.
The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new) and
replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre" section of their
catalogues? It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
#64
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Re: TT 3.2
> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>
> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for something
> like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for rallying), UK tyres
> are supplied as an all seasons tyre and NOT a summer only tyre. Just
> because they don't have the words "all seasons" written on the sidewall,
> it doesn't mean they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and Snow", as
> indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>
> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry to know
> what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If you have any
> doubts, phone directly any of the UK official tyre importers or companies,
> and speak to their technical department. In all my experience, they are
> (usually) only too glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and
> surprisingly, they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
> competitors too.
The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new) and
replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre" section of their
catalogues? It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
>
> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for something
> like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for rallying), UK tyres
> are supplied as an all seasons tyre and NOT a summer only tyre. Just
> because they don't have the words "all seasons" written on the sidewall,
> it doesn't mean they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and Snow", as
> indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>
> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry to know
> what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If you have any
> doubts, phone directly any of the UK official tyre importers or companies,
> and speak to their technical department. In all my experience, they are
> (usually) only too glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and
> surprisingly, they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
> competitors too.
The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new) and
replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre" section of their
catalogues? It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
#65
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Re: TT 3.2
> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>
> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for something
> like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for rallying), UK tyres
> are supplied as an all seasons tyre and NOT a summer only tyre. Just
> because they don't have the words "all seasons" written on the sidewall,
> it doesn't mean they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and Snow", as
> indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>
> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry to know
> what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If you have any
> doubts, phone directly any of the UK official tyre importers or companies,
> and speak to their technical department. In all my experience, they are
> (usually) only too glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and
> surprisingly, they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
> competitors too.
The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new) and
replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre" section of their
catalogues? It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
>
> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for something
> like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for rallying), UK tyres
> are supplied as an all seasons tyre and NOT a summer only tyre. Just
> because they don't have the words "all seasons" written on the sidewall,
> it doesn't mean they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and Snow", as
> indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>
> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry to know
> what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If you have any
> doubts, phone directly any of the UK official tyre importers or companies,
> and speak to their technical department. In all my experience, they are
> (usually) only too glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and
> surprisingly, they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
> competitors too.
The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new) and
replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre" section of their
catalogues? It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
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Re: TT 3.2
"Dave" <dave@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>>
>> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for
>> something like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for
>> rallying), UK tyres are supplied as an all seasons tyre and
>> NOT a summer only tyre. Just because they don't have the
>> words "all seasons" written on the sidewall, it doesn't mean
>> they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
>> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and
>> Snow", as indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>>
>> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry
>> to know what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If
>> you have any doubts, phone directly any of the UK official
>> tyre importers or companies, and speak to their technical
>> department. In all my experience, they are (usually) only too
>> glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and surprisingly,
>> they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
>> competitors too.
>
> The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new)
> and replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre"
> section of their catalogues?
Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class
as a "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)?
Please provide a URL for this so called catalogue!
> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
> call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q,
National, Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
news:H7poh.56066$n36.40451@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>>
>> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for
>> something like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for
>> rallying), UK tyres are supplied as an all seasons tyre and
>> NOT a summer only tyre. Just because they don't have the
>> words "all seasons" written on the sidewall, it doesn't mean
>> they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
>> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and
>> Snow", as indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>>
>> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry
>> to know what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If
>> you have any doubts, phone directly any of the UK official
>> tyre importers or companies, and speak to their technical
>> department. In all my experience, they are (usually) only too
>> glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and surprisingly,
>> they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
>> competitors too.
>
> The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new)
> and replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre"
> section of their catalogues?
Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class
as a "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)?
Please provide a URL for this so called catalogue!
> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
> call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q,
National, Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
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Re: TT 3.2
"Dave" <dave@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>>
>> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for
>> something like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for
>> rallying), UK tyres are supplied as an all seasons tyre and
>> NOT a summer only tyre. Just because they don't have the
>> words "all seasons" written on the sidewall, it doesn't mean
>> they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
>> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and
>> Snow", as indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>>
>> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry
>> to know what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If
>> you have any doubts, phone directly any of the UK official
>> tyre importers or companies, and speak to their technical
>> department. In all my experience, they are (usually) only too
>> glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and surprisingly,
>> they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
>> competitors too.
>
> The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new)
> and replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre"
> section of their catalogues?
Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class
as a "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)?
Please provide a URL for this so called catalogue!
> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
> call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q,
National, Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
news:H7poh.56066$n36.40451@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>>
>> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for
>> something like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for
>> rallying), UK tyres are supplied as an all seasons tyre and
>> NOT a summer only tyre. Just because they don't have the
>> words "all seasons" written on the sidewall, it doesn't mean
>> they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
>> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and
>> Snow", as indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>>
>> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry
>> to know what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If
>> you have any doubts, phone directly any of the UK official
>> tyre importers or companies, and speak to their technical
>> department. In all my experience, they are (usually) only too
>> glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and surprisingly,
>> they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
>> competitors too.
>
> The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new)
> and replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre"
> section of their catalogues?
Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class
as a "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)?
Please provide a URL for this so called catalogue!
> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
> call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q,
National, Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
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Re: TT 3.2
"Dave" <dave@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>>
>> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for
>> something like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for
>> rallying), UK tyres are supplied as an all seasons tyre and
>> NOT a summer only tyre. Just because they don't have the
>> words "all seasons" written on the sidewall, it doesn't mean
>> they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
>> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and
>> Snow", as indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>>
>> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry
>> to know what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If
>> you have any doubts, phone directly any of the UK official
>> tyre importers or companies, and speak to their technical
>> department. In all my experience, they are (usually) only too
>> glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and surprisingly,
>> they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
>> competitors too.
>
> The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new)
> and replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre"
> section of their catalogues?
Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class
as a "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)?
Please provide a URL for this so called catalogue!
> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
> call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q,
National, Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
news:H7poh.56066$n36.40451@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>>
>> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for
>> something like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for
>> rallying), UK tyres are supplied as an all seasons tyre and
>> NOT a summer only tyre. Just because they don't have the
>> words "all seasons" written on the sidewall, it doesn't mean
>> they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
>> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and
>> Snow", as indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>>
>> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry
>> to know what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If
>> you have any doubts, phone directly any of the UK official
>> tyre importers or companies, and speak to their technical
>> department. In all my experience, they are (usually) only too
>> glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and surprisingly,
>> they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
>> competitors too.
>
> The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new)
> and replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre"
> section of their catalogues?
Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class
as a "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)?
Please provide a URL for this so called catalogue!
> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
> call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q,
National, Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
#69
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Re: TT 3.2
"Dave" <dave@nobody.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>>
>> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for
>> something like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for
>> rallying), UK tyres are supplied as an all seasons tyre and
>> NOT a summer only tyre. Just because they don't have the
>> words "all seasons" written on the sidewall, it doesn't mean
>> they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
>> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and
>> Snow", as indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>>
>> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry
>> to know what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If
>> you have any doubts, phone directly any of the UK official
>> tyre importers or companies, and speak to their technical
>> department. In all my experience, they are (usually) only too
>> glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and surprisingly,
>> they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
>> competitors too.
>
> The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new)
> and replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre"
> section of their catalogues?
Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class
as a "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)?
Please provide a URL for this so called catalogue!
> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
> call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q,
National, Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
news:H7poh.56066$n36.40451@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> I'm afraid *you* are wrong.
>>
>> Unless you have a very specific, non-standard requirement (for
>> something like a road-legal dry weather track-day tyre, or for
>> rallying), UK tyres are supplied as an all seasons tyre and
>> NOT a summer only tyre. Just because they don't have the
>> words "all seasons" written on the sidewall, it doesn't mean
>> they are not all seasons. In the UK we can get so called
>> *winter* tyres, but their correct designation is "Mud and
>> Snow", as indicated by "M&S" on the sidewall.
>>
>> I have worked with, and had close links with the tyre industry
>> to know what I'm talking about on this particular subject. If
>> you have any doubts, phone directly any of the UK official
>> tyre importers or companies, and speak to their technical
>> department. In all my experience, they are (usually) only too
>> glad to offer detailed help and assistance, and surprisingly,
>> they are also highly knowledgeable on products from their
>> competitors too.
>
> The why is it that all the tyres fitted to my cars (from new)
> and replacements I have bought have come from the "summer tyre"
> section of their catalogues?
Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class
as a "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)?
Please provide a URL for this so called catalogue!
> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would
> call an "all-season tyre" in the UK.
Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q,
National, Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
#70
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Re: TT 3.2
> Are you running slicks? What makes and type of tyre do you class as a
> "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)? Please provide a
> URL for this so called catalogue!
>
>> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would call an
>> "all-season tyre" in the UK.
>
> Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q, National,
> Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
I have just fitted a set of Good Year Excellence to my A4. Good Year website
has these as summer tyres. When shopping for tyres, Michelin Pilot Sport is
classed as a summer tyre by Michelin, Bridgestone RE050 is classed as a
summer tyre by Bridgestone. We had Continental SportContact 2s fitted to the
A4. Conti do call it an all-season tyre but it would be crap in snow so the
designation is misleading.
We used Bridgestone RE720s on our Bora - Bridgestone class it as a summer
tyre.
Feel free to browse any of the manufacturers websites. I'm not making this
up
As has already been stated, a summer tyre is not a slick as it still needs
to handle wet roads. Summer tyres give poorer performance in COLD conditions
e.g. < 5C than Winter tyres. They also give very poor performance in snow
due to their tread pattern designs.
> "summer" tyre which you have fitted (now or in the past)? Please provide a
> URL for this so called catalogue!
>
>> It's actually quite hard to buy what the tyre companies would call an
>> "all-season tyre" in the UK.
>
> Maybe you should try somewhere like ATS, Kwik-Fit (spit), Hi-Q, National,
> Black Circles, MyTyres, Stapletons, for starters.
I have just fitted a set of Good Year Excellence to my A4. Good Year website
has these as summer tyres. When shopping for tyres, Michelin Pilot Sport is
classed as a summer tyre by Michelin, Bridgestone RE050 is classed as a
summer tyre by Bridgestone. We had Continental SportContact 2s fitted to the
A4. Conti do call it an all-season tyre but it would be crap in snow so the
designation is misleading.
We used Bridgestone RE720s on our Bora - Bridgestone class it as a summer
tyre.
Feel free to browse any of the manufacturers websites. I'm not making this
up
As has already been stated, a summer tyre is not a slick as it still needs
to handle wet roads. Summer tyres give poorer performance in COLD conditions
e.g. < 5C than Winter tyres. They also give very poor performance in snow
due to their tread pattern designs.