Timing Belt Change
#11
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Re: Timing Belt Change
So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
quattro?
My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
version.
"Simon" <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > On 2004-08-23, Simon <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Can you share any insights on APU, AEB, etc engines. What are the
> > > variations on the basic 1.8T engine. There seem to be about 7 or 8
> > > different codes for the A4 1.8T between 1995 and 2001.
> > >
> >
> > The APU engine is listed to be similar (same part numbers) with engines
> > ADR/AEB/APT/ARG/ARK/ANB/AJL. There is however one thing to notice:
> > somewhere between 97-98 the construction has changed so that you might
> > have 152 tooth belt with old tensioner construction or 153 tooth
> > belt with newer (improved). In either cases, get the new 153 tooth
> > version with all the necesary rollers and tensioner (I think the old
> > version is not sold anymore). I had in my 1999 APU the 153 tooth version
> > from the factory.
>
> Hi Petri,
>
> Thanks for the info. My car was manuafactured in September 2000 so I
> guess it came with the new belt.
>
> Simon
quattro?
My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
version.
"Simon" <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cb5d0053.0408231241.4629e062@posting.google.c om...
> Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<TUdWc.6$g76.0@read3.inet.fi>...
> > On 2004-08-23, Simon <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Can you share any insights on APU, AEB, etc engines. What are the
> > > variations on the basic 1.8T engine. There seem to be about 7 or 8
> > > different codes for the A4 1.8T between 1995 and 2001.
> > >
> >
> > The APU engine is listed to be similar (same part numbers) with engines
> > ADR/AEB/APT/ARG/ARK/ANB/AJL. There is however one thing to notice:
> > somewhere between 97-98 the construction has changed so that you might
> > have 152 tooth belt with old tensioner construction or 153 tooth
> > belt with newer (improved). In either cases, get the new 153 tooth
> > version with all the necesary rollers and tensioner (I think the old
> > version is not sold anymore). I had in my 1999 APU the 153 tooth version
> > from the factory.
>
> Hi Petri,
>
> Thanks for the info. My car was manuafactured in September 2000 so I
> guess it came with the new belt.
>
> Simon
#12
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Re: Timing Belt Change
On 2004-08-24, David <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote:
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> version.
Here in Finland the recommended interval is 90000 km. Quite a cap
between these two intervals . I replaced mine before 90000 and
there was no sign of wear in belt. My speculation is that the
tensioner is the most common cause of failure. The recommended interval
in Finland might be explained by the strain of winter time.
--
Petri Rehtonen
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> version.
Here in Finland the recommended interval is 90000 km. Quite a cap
between these two intervals . I replaced mine before 90000 and
there was no sign of wear in belt. My speculation is that the
tensioner is the most common cause of failure. The recommended interval
in Finland might be explained by the strain of winter time.
--
Petri Rehtonen
#13
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Re: Timing Belt Change
On 2004-08-24, David <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote:
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> version.
Here in Finland the recommended interval is 90000 km. Quite a cap
between these two intervals . I replaced mine before 90000 and
there was no sign of wear in belt. My speculation is that the
tensioner is the most common cause of failure. The recommended interval
in Finland might be explained by the strain of winter time.
--
Petri Rehtonen
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> version.
Here in Finland the recommended interval is 90000 km. Quite a cap
between these two intervals . I replaced mine before 90000 and
there was no sign of wear in belt. My speculation is that the
tensioner is the most common cause of failure. The recommended interval
in Finland might be explained by the strain of winter time.
--
Petri Rehtonen
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Re: Timing Belt Change
David wrote:
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000
> 1.8t quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that
> this is with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports
> of early failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner.
> Unfortunately, no one ever states whether the model had the old
> tensioner or the new "improved version.
Hopefully you mean 120.000 _kilometers and not miles!?
If you wait with the belt ´till 120.000 _miles_, then there will most surely
be nothing to change ;o(
--
Gio
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000
> 1.8t quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that
> this is with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports
> of early failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner.
> Unfortunately, no one ever states whether the model had the old
> tensioner or the new "improved version.
Hopefully you mean 120.000 _kilometers and not miles!?
If you wait with the belt ´till 120.000 _miles_, then there will most surely
be nothing to change ;o(
--
Gio
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Re: Timing Belt Change
David wrote:
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000
> 1.8t quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that
> this is with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports
> of early failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner.
> Unfortunately, no one ever states whether the model had the old
> tensioner or the new "improved version.
Hopefully you mean 120.000 _kilometers and not miles!?
If you wait with the belt ´till 120.000 _miles_, then there will most surely
be nothing to change ;o(
--
Gio
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000
> 1.8t quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that
> this is with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports
> of early failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner.
> Unfortunately, no one ever states whether the model had the old
> tensioner or the new "improved version.
Hopefully you mean 120.000 _kilometers and not miles!?
If you wait with the belt ´till 120.000 _miles_, then there will most surely
be nothing to change ;o(
--
Gio
#16
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Re: Timing Belt Change
Hi David, Petri,
Given the damage that can occur spending US $200 to US $400 seems like
a small price to pay. I am not an expert but I can see myself
changing the belt every at 60,000 miles and then every 40,000 from
then on.
Simon
Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<WPEWc.104$O1.21@read3.inet.fi>...
> On 2004-08-24, David <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote:
> > So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> > quattro?
> >
> > My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> > with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> > failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> > ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> > version.
>
> Here in Finland the recommended interval is 90000 km. Quite a cap
> between these two intervals . I replaced mine before 90000 and
> there was no sign of wear in belt. My speculation is that the
> tensioner is the most common cause of failure. The recommended interval
> in Finland might be explained by the strain of winter time.
Given the damage that can occur spending US $200 to US $400 seems like
a small price to pay. I am not an expert but I can see myself
changing the belt every at 60,000 miles and then every 40,000 from
then on.
Simon
Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<WPEWc.104$O1.21@read3.inet.fi>...
> On 2004-08-24, David <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote:
> > So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> > quattro?
> >
> > My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> > with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> > failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> > ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> > version.
>
> Here in Finland the recommended interval is 90000 km. Quite a cap
> between these two intervals . I replaced mine before 90000 and
> there was no sign of wear in belt. My speculation is that the
> tensioner is the most common cause of failure. The recommended interval
> in Finland might be explained by the strain of winter time.
#17
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Re: Timing Belt Change
Hi David, Petri,
Given the damage that can occur spending US $200 to US $400 seems like
a small price to pay. I am not an expert but I can see myself
changing the belt every at 60,000 miles and then every 40,000 from
then on.
Simon
Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<WPEWc.104$O1.21@read3.inet.fi>...
> On 2004-08-24, David <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote:
> > So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> > quattro?
> >
> > My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> > with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> > failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> > ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> > version.
>
> Here in Finland the recommended interval is 90000 km. Quite a cap
> between these two intervals . I replaced mine before 90000 and
> there was no sign of wear in belt. My speculation is that the
> tensioner is the most common cause of failure. The recommended interval
> in Finland might be explained by the strain of winter time.
Given the damage that can occur spending US $200 to US $400 seems like
a small price to pay. I am not an expert but I can see myself
changing the belt every at 60,000 miles and then every 40,000 from
then on.
Simon
Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<WPEWc.104$O1.21@read3.inet.fi>...
> On 2004-08-24, David <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote:
> > So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> > quattro?
> >
> > My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> > with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> > failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> > ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> > version.
>
> Here in Finland the recommended interval is 90000 km. Quite a cap
> between these two intervals . I replaced mine before 90000 and
> there was no sign of wear in belt. My speculation is that the
> tensioner is the most common cause of failure. The recommended interval
> in Finland might be explained by the strain of winter time.
#18
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Re: Timing Belt Change
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:55:09 -0400, "David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote:
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> version.
I think you must have misread (or mistyped) this -- that figure would surely
be KILOMETERS, not miles.
> "Simon" <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:cb5d0053.0408231241.4629e062@posting.google.c om...
> > Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<TUdWc.6$g76.0@read3.inet.fi>...
> > > On 2004-08-23, Simon <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Can you share any insights on APU, AEB, etc engines. What are the
> > > > variations on the basic 1.8T engine. There seem to be about 7 or 8
> > > > different codes for the A4 1.8T between 1995 and 2001.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The APU engine is listed to be similar (same part numbers) with engines
> > > ADR/AEB/APT/ARG/ARK/ANB/AJL. There is however one thing to notice:
> > > somewhere between 97-98 the construction has changed so that you might
> > > have 152 tooth belt with old tensioner construction or 153 tooth
> > > belt with newer (improved). In either cases, get the new 153 tooth
> > > version with all the necesary rollers and tensioner (I think the old
> > > version is not sold anymore). I had in my 1999 APU the 153 tooth version
> > > from the factory.
> >
> > Hi Petri,
> >
> > Thanks for the info. My car was manuafactured in September 2000 so I
> > guess it came with the new belt.
> >
> > Simon
>
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> version.
I think you must have misread (or mistyped) this -- that figure would surely
be KILOMETERS, not miles.
> "Simon" <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:cb5d0053.0408231241.4629e062@posting.google.c om...
> > Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<TUdWc.6$g76.0@read3.inet.fi>...
> > > On 2004-08-23, Simon <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Can you share any insights on APU, AEB, etc engines. What are the
> > > > variations on the basic 1.8T engine. There seem to be about 7 or 8
> > > > different codes for the A4 1.8T between 1995 and 2001.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The APU engine is listed to be similar (same part numbers) with engines
> > > ADR/AEB/APT/ARG/ARK/ANB/AJL. There is however one thing to notice:
> > > somewhere between 97-98 the construction has changed so that you might
> > > have 152 tooth belt with old tensioner construction or 153 tooth
> > > belt with newer (improved). In either cases, get the new 153 tooth
> > > version with all the necesary rollers and tensioner (I think the old
> > > version is not sold anymore). I had in my 1999 APU the 153 tooth version
> > > from the factory.
> >
> > Hi Petri,
> >
> > Thanks for the info. My car was manuafactured in September 2000 so I
> > guess it came with the new belt.
> >
> > Simon
>
#19
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Re: Timing Belt Change
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 05:55:09 -0400, "David" <cutlerd@comcast.net> wrote:
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> version.
I think you must have misread (or mistyped) this -- that figure would surely
be KILOMETERS, not miles.
> "Simon" <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:cb5d0053.0408231241.4629e062@posting.google.c om...
> > Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<TUdWc.6$g76.0@read3.inet.fi>...
> > > On 2004-08-23, Simon <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Can you share any insights on APU, AEB, etc engines. What are the
> > > > variations on the basic 1.8T engine. There seem to be about 7 or 8
> > > > different codes for the A4 1.8T between 1995 and 2001.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The APU engine is listed to be similar (same part numbers) with engines
> > > ADR/AEB/APT/ARG/ARK/ANB/AJL. There is however one thing to notice:
> > > somewhere between 97-98 the construction has changed so that you might
> > > have 152 tooth belt with old tensioner construction or 153 tooth
> > > belt with newer (improved). In either cases, get the new 153 tooth
> > > version with all the necesary rollers and tensioner (I think the old
> > > version is not sold anymore). I had in my 1999 APU the 153 tooth version
> > > from the factory.
> >
> > Hi Petri,
> >
> > Thanks for the info. My car was manuafactured in September 2000 so I
> > guess it came with the new belt.
> >
> > Simon
>
> So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000 1.8t
> quattro?
>
> My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that this is
> with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports of early
> failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner. Unfortunately, no one
> ever states whether the model had the old tensioner or the new "improved
> version.
I think you must have misread (or mistyped) this -- that figure would surely
be KILOMETERS, not miles.
> "Simon" <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:cb5d0053.0408231241.4629e062@posting.google.c om...
> > Petri Rehtonen <rehto@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<TUdWc.6$g76.0@read3.inet.fi>...
> > > On 2004-08-23, Simon <shfraser@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Can you share any insights on APU, AEB, etc engines. What are the
> > > > variations on the basic 1.8T engine. There seem to be about 7 or 8
> > > > different codes for the A4 1.8T between 1995 and 2001.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The APU engine is listed to be similar (same part numbers) with engines
> > > ADR/AEB/APT/ARG/ARK/ANB/AJL. There is however one thing to notice:
> > > somewhere between 97-98 the construction has changed so that you might
> > > have 152 tooth belt with old tensioner construction or 153 tooth
> > > belt with newer (improved). In either cases, get the new 153 tooth
> > > version with all the necesary rollers and tensioner (I think the old
> > > version is not sold anymore). I had in my 1999 APU the 153 tooth version
> > > from the factory.
> >
> > Hi Petri,
> >
> > Thanks for the info. My car was manuafactured in September 2000 so I
> > guess it came with the new belt.
> >
> > Simon
>
#20
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Re: Timing Belt Change
No, the manual it says 120,000 miles, not kilometers.!!!
I kid you not.
My last car, a V6 Toyota Camry (non-interference engine) suggested checking
the belt every 60,000 miles. There was no suggested replacement interval.
I replaced the first belt at 120,000 miles, and after driving the car
another 200,000 miles the belt is still intact. Of course, I'd never take
this kind of chance with an interference engine.
"Jesper Giovanni" <gio@antispam.ig.dk> wrote in message
news:2p0o30Ff6jscU1@uni-berlin.de...
> David wrote:
> > So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000
> > 1.8t quattro?
> >
> > My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that
> > this is with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports
> > of early failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner.
> > Unfortunately, no one ever states whether the model had the old
> > tensioner or the new "improved version.
>
> Hopefully you mean 120.000 _kilometers and not miles!?
> If you wait with the belt ´till 120.000 _miles_, then there will most
surely
> be nothing to change ;o(
>
>
> --
> Gio
>
>
I kid you not.
My last car, a V6 Toyota Camry (non-interference engine) suggested checking
the belt every 60,000 miles. There was no suggested replacement interval.
I replaced the first belt at 120,000 miles, and after driving the car
another 200,000 miles the belt is still intact. Of course, I'd never take
this kind of chance with an interference engine.
"Jesper Giovanni" <gio@antispam.ig.dk> wrote in message
news:2p0o30Ff6jscU1@uni-berlin.de...
> David wrote:
> > So what is the appropriate time to replace the timing belt on a 2000
> > 1.8t quattro?
> >
> > My manual suggests replacing at 120,000 miles. I'm assuming that
> > this is with the improved tensioner. However, I keep seeing reports
> > of early failure, probably/possibly due to the old tensioner.
> > Unfortunately, no one ever states whether the model had the old
> > tensioner or the new "improved version.
>
> Hopefully you mean 120.000 _kilometers and not miles!?
> If you wait with the belt ´till 120.000 _miles_, then there will most
surely
> be nothing to change ;o(
>
>
> --
> Gio
>
>