ruined my life
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Re: ruined my life
Jay Somerset writes:
>What you quoted was close enough to "straight arm" to cause stress. Even
>with wrists resting on top of the wheel, arms will still be extended too
>much for many people. I stand by my advice.
You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no steering
will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
(Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
It works!
Dave
RS6
>What you quoted was close enough to "straight arm" to cause stress. Even
>with wrists resting on top of the wheel, arms will still be extended too
>much for many people. I stand by my advice.
You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no steering
will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
(Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
It works!
Dave
RS6
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Re: ruined my life
Jay Somerset writes:
>What you quoted was close enough to "straight arm" to cause stress. Even
>with wrists resting on top of the wheel, arms will still be extended too
>much for many people. I stand by my advice.
You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no steering
will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
(Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
It works!
Dave
RS6
>What you quoted was close enough to "straight arm" to cause stress. Even
>with wrists resting on top of the wheel, arms will still be extended too
>much for many people. I stand by my advice.
You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no steering
will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
(Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
It works!
Dave
RS6
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Re: ruined my life
Dave,
"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
I guess your almost there but you should have started with:
Sit in the chair and press the clutch (or brake i.c.o. automatic car).
Adjust the chair position in such way that if the clutch is fully pressed,
the knee is stil bend a little and not fully streched. Next contiue with
adjustment of the steeringwheel and or back of the chair with the
measurement you have described.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get
comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your
wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE:
*This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the
top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready
to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the
top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you
are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of
the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need
more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no
steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also,
if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina,
Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry
Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
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"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
I guess your almost there but you should have started with:
Sit in the chair and press the clutch (or brake i.c.o. automatic car).
Adjust the chair position in such way that if the clutch is fully pressed,
the knee is stil bend a little and not fully streched. Next contiue with
adjustment of the steeringwheel and or back of the chair with the
measurement you have described.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get
comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your
wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE:
*This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the
top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready
to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the
top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you
are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of
the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need
more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no
steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also,
if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina,
Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry
Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: ruined my life
Dave,
"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
I guess your almost there but you should have started with:
Sit in the chair and press the clutch (or brake i.c.o. automatic car).
Adjust the chair position in such way that if the clutch is fully pressed,
the knee is stil bend a little and not fully streched. Next contiue with
adjustment of the steeringwheel and or back of the chair with the
measurement you have described.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get
comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your
wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE:
*This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the
top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready
to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the
top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you
are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of
the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need
more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no
steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also,
if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina,
Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry
Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>
>
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"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
I guess your almost there but you should have started with:
Sit in the chair and press the clutch (or brake i.c.o. automatic car).
Adjust the chair position in such way that if the clutch is fully pressed,
the knee is stil bend a little and not fully streched. Next contiue with
adjustment of the steeringwheel and or back of the chair with the
measurement you have described.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get
comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your
wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE:
*This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the
top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready
to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the
top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you
are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of
the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need
more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no
steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also,
if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina,
Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry
Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>
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Re: ruined my life
Dave,
"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
I guess your almost there but you should have started with:
Sit in the chair and press the clutch (or brake i.c.o. automatic car).
Adjust the chair position in such way that if the clutch is fully pressed,
the knee is stil bend a little and not fully streched. Next contiue with
adjustment of the steeringwheel and or back of the chair with the
measurement you have described.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get
comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your
wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE:
*This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the
top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready
to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the
top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you
are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of
the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need
more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no
steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also,
if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina,
Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry
Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
"Dave LaCourse" <davplac@aol.comPirate> wrote in message
I guess your almost there but you should have started with:
Sit in the chair and press the clutch (or brake i.c.o. automatic car).
Adjust the chair position in such way that if the clutch is fully pressed,
the knee is stil bend a little and not fully streched. Next contiue with
adjustment of the steeringwheel and or back of the chair with the
measurement you have described.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get
comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your
wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE:
*This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the
top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready
to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the
top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you
are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of
the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need
more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no
steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also,
if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina,
Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry
Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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#59
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Re: ruined my life
On 31 Jan 2005 02:29:35 GMT, davplac@aol.comPirate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:
> Jay Somerset writes:
>
> >What you quoted was close enough to "straight arm" to cause stress. Even
> >with wrists resting on top of the wheel, arms will still be extended too
> >much for many people. I stand by my advice.
>
> You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
> your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
I'm not an idiot. Obviously, the "wrists on top of the wheel" was to set
distance -- no one drives that way.
You seem to have missed a very important point -- street driving and
performance driving positions have different objectives. Both strive to
maintain good car control, but the performance driving one doesn't care two
hoots for long-term comfort, nor cater to drivers with neck/leg/back
problems.
Of course the position you espouse works -- all I have said was that is not
necessarily optimal for all people.
Cut down a bit on the arrogance and sarcasm -- it might help.
>
> Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Jay.
(remove dashes for legal email address)
> Jay Somerset writes:
>
> >What you quoted was close enough to "straight arm" to cause stress. Even
> >with wrists resting on top of the wheel, arms will still be extended too
> >much for many people. I stand by my advice.
>
> You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
> your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
I'm not an idiot. Obviously, the "wrists on top of the wheel" was to set
distance -- no one drives that way.
You seem to have missed a very important point -- street driving and
performance driving positions have different objectives. Both strive to
maintain good car control, but the performance driving one doesn't care two
hoots for long-term comfort, nor cater to drivers with neck/leg/back
problems.
Of course the position you espouse works -- all I have said was that is not
necessarily optimal for all people.
Cut down a bit on the arrogance and sarcasm -- it might help.
>
> Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Jay.
(remove dashes for legal email address)
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Re: ruined my life
On 31 Jan 2005 02:29:35 GMT, davplac@aol.comPirate (Dave LaCourse) wrote:
> Jay Somerset writes:
>
> >What you quoted was close enough to "straight arm" to cause stress. Even
> >with wrists resting on top of the wheel, arms will still be extended too
> >much for many people. I stand by my advice.
>
> You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
> your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
I'm not an idiot. Obviously, the "wrists on top of the wheel" was to set
distance -- no one drives that way.
You seem to have missed a very important point -- street driving and
performance driving positions have different objectives. Both strive to
maintain good car control, but the performance driving one doesn't care two
hoots for long-term comfort, nor cater to drivers with neck/leg/back
problems.
Of course the position you espouse works -- all I have said was that is not
necessarily optimal for all people.
Cut down a bit on the arrogance and sarcasm -- it might help.
>
> Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
>
> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
>
> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
>
> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
>
> It works!
>
> Dave
> RS6
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Jay Somerset writes:
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> >What you quoted was close enough to "straight arm" to cause stress. Even
> >with wrists resting on top of the wheel, arms will still be extended too
> >much for many people. I stand by my advice.
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> You're reading skills need help, Jay. Nowhere did I say that you should rest
> your wrists on the top of the wheel while driving.
I'm not an idiot. Obviously, the "wrists on top of the wheel" was to set
distance -- no one drives that way.
You seem to have missed a very important point -- street driving and
performance driving positions have different objectives. Both strive to
maintain good car control, but the performance driving one doesn't care two
hoots for long-term comfort, nor cater to drivers with neck/leg/back
problems.
Of course the position you espouse works -- all I have said was that is not
necessarily optimal for all people.
Cut down a bit on the arrogance and sarcasm -- it might help.
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> Let me try again, and I'll try to be more explicit for you.
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> To find the correct (racing or street driving) seating postion, get comfortable
> in your seat. Then, extend your arms over the top of the wheel. Your wrists
> should rest on top of the wheel. This is a *measurement only*!!! NOTE: *This
> is NOT the driving position of the hands!* If your wrists can rest on the top
> of the wheel from your *comfortable* seating position, your arms are ready to
> drive the car. Now, comes the tricky part: remove your wrists from the top of
> the wheel and place your hands at three and nine (Note: Three is for the
> RIGHT hand, while nine is for the LEFT hand.) At this driving postion you are
> not only comfortable but you can steer the car properly. In this *proper*
> seating/steering position, it is possible to make a complete half turn of the
> wheel without lifting your hands from the 3 and 9 position. If you need more
> wheel than that, chances are you are already in a world of and no steering
> will help! (Think brakes at this time, Jay! And screaming too!) Also, if you
> like to shuffle steer, (I don't) this position is ideal.
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> I hope this has cleared up any misunderstanding. <sigh>
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> I've taught this measurement method to just about every police officer in
> Vermont, The Vermont Police Academy, lots in Massachusetts State Troopers
> (Troup E on the Mass Pike), some in Maryland, the RCMP in Regina, Saskatchawan,
> The Marshall Service, any number of body guards (including Henry Kissenger's),
> EMTs, fleet drivers, teens, and just plain old ordinary people.
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> It works!
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> Dave
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