RS3 in the USA?
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Re: RS3 in the USA?
In article <20031223161340.14410.00001465@mb-m28.aol.com>, Steve Grauman
<oneactor1@aol.com> writes
>The MKV A3 *will* be sold in North America, it's just on delay at the moment.
>It's also being said that they will sell the 3.2 VR6 powered, 280Hp S3 in the
>U.S. as well, although I'm not sure if that's been confirmed yet. Wether or not
>an RS3 will be sold here is totally up in the air, as I'm still hearing that
>Audi isn't even sure if they're going to build it yet. Expect it to have
>another more powerful version of the 3.2, with a minimum of 300Hp and possibly
>turbochargers. The 3.2 is going to become the staple of the VW/Audi lineup,
>with versions of it being sold in the Golf, Passat, A3/S3, TT, and maybe even
>in the Jetta. Expect the 3.2TT currently being sold to make a jump in power
>sometime in the next 12 to 14 months, as a 260 to 280Hp version is in the works
>for the MKV based R32.
One car mag here in the UK said the new S3 would be V8 powered, but
frankly I doubt it somehow. Everyone I've mentioned this to has laughed
at it, and even if they were going to produce a V8 powered derivative,
surely that would be the RS3, not the S3.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/preview...y.php?id=41903
(third paragraph)
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Toby
<oneactor1@aol.com> writes
>The MKV A3 *will* be sold in North America, it's just on delay at the moment.
>It's also being said that they will sell the 3.2 VR6 powered, 280Hp S3 in the
>U.S. as well, although I'm not sure if that's been confirmed yet. Wether or not
>an RS3 will be sold here is totally up in the air, as I'm still hearing that
>Audi isn't even sure if they're going to build it yet. Expect it to have
>another more powerful version of the 3.2, with a minimum of 300Hp and possibly
>turbochargers. The 3.2 is going to become the staple of the VW/Audi lineup,
>with versions of it being sold in the Golf, Passat, A3/S3, TT, and maybe even
>in the Jetta. Expect the 3.2TT currently being sold to make a jump in power
>sometime in the next 12 to 14 months, as a 260 to 280Hp version is in the works
>for the MKV based R32.
One car mag here in the UK said the new S3 would be V8 powered, but
frankly I doubt it somehow. Everyone I've mentioned this to has laughed
at it, and even if they were going to produce a V8 powered derivative,
surely that would be the RS3, not the S3.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/preview...y.php?id=41903
(third paragraph)
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Toby
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<< One car mag here in the UK said the new S3 would be V8 powered, but
frankly I doubt it somehow. >>
My main doubt of it lays simply in the fact that the only V8 Audi currently
makes simply won't fit into an MKV Golf chassis. I still have an old issue of
CAR (another English publication) containing a 2 page article about a highly
modified MKIV Golf 2-door that the factory squeezed a 4.0 litre W8 into, but
the difficulty of installation, excessive added weight over the nose, and
sky-high cost prohibited it from being built. In addition to all this, Audi
would never let a Golf based model supercede the S4, and of the Golf based
models they make, I'm fairly sure they want the TT to keep top rung, above any
A3/S3 variants.
<< Everyone I've mentioned this to has laughed
at it >>
The logistics of it simply seem impossible. I'm willing to admit I'm wrong when
evidence is presented, but I know-not of any possible way to shoehorn the 4.2
into a Golf based vehicle.
<< and even if they were going to produce a V8 powered derivative,
surely that would be the RS3, not the S3. >>
I agree. The 3.2 VR6 could easily produce over 300Hp with the aid of
turbochargers. Only in an RS3 variant and only if Audi went *crazy* with it's
power output would they opt for an 8 cylinder powerplant.
frankly I doubt it somehow. >>
My main doubt of it lays simply in the fact that the only V8 Audi currently
makes simply won't fit into an MKV Golf chassis. I still have an old issue of
CAR (another English publication) containing a 2 page article about a highly
modified MKIV Golf 2-door that the factory squeezed a 4.0 litre W8 into, but
the difficulty of installation, excessive added weight over the nose, and
sky-high cost prohibited it from being built. In addition to all this, Audi
would never let a Golf based model supercede the S4, and of the Golf based
models they make, I'm fairly sure they want the TT to keep top rung, above any
A3/S3 variants.
<< Everyone I've mentioned this to has laughed
at it >>
The logistics of it simply seem impossible. I'm willing to admit I'm wrong when
evidence is presented, but I know-not of any possible way to shoehorn the 4.2
into a Golf based vehicle.
<< and even if they were going to produce a V8 powered derivative,
surely that would be the RS3, not the S3. >>
I agree. The 3.2 VR6 could easily produce over 300Hp with the aid of
turbochargers. Only in an RS3 variant and only if Audi went *crazy* with it's
power output would they opt for an 8 cylinder powerplant.
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> My main doubt of it lays simply in the fact that the only V8 Audi currently
> makes simply won't fit into an MKV Golf chassis.
Especially when one considers the transversal engine position in the
A3
I have heard however, of the V6 2.5 TDI coming to the golf V platform
in the future, combined with DSG and Quattro, that would be a really
cool sleeper car
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Dave
> makes simply won't fit into an MKV Golf chassis.
Especially when one considers the transversal engine position in the
A3
I have heard however, of the V6 2.5 TDI coming to the golf V platform
in the future, combined with DSG and Quattro, that would be a really
cool sleeper car
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Dave
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<< I have heard however, of the V6 2.5 TDI coming to the golf V >>
It would certainly *fit* which solves the debacle. =)
Sadly, we're Diesel deprived here in the U.S., if we get a TDi in the A3 it'll
probably be the same 2.0 4-cylinder now in the Passat. Chances are though, we
just won't get a Diesel variant of the A3.
It would certainly *fit* which solves the debacle. =)
Sadly, we're Diesel deprived here in the U.S., if we get a TDi in the A3 it'll
probably be the same 2.0 4-cylinder now in the Passat. Chances are though, we
just won't get a Diesel variant of the A3.
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In article <20031231024549.15336.00002240@mb-m04.aol.com>, Steve Grauman
<oneactor1@aol.com> writes
><< I have heard however, of the V6 2.5 TDI coming to the golf V >>
>
>It would certainly *fit* which solves the debacle. =)
>Sadly, we're Diesel deprived here in the U.S., if we get a TDi in the A3 it'll
>probably be the same 2.0 4-cylinder now in the Passat. Chances are though, we
>just won't get a Diesel variant of the A3.
Out of interest, with petrol prices so cheap over there, why would you
want a diesel?
--
Toby
<oneactor1@aol.com> writes
><< I have heard however, of the V6 2.5 TDI coming to the golf V >>
>
>It would certainly *fit* which solves the debacle. =)
>Sadly, we're Diesel deprived here in the U.S., if we get a TDi in the A3 it'll
>probably be the same 2.0 4-cylinder now in the Passat. Chances are though, we
>just won't get a Diesel variant of the A3.
Out of interest, with petrol prices so cheap over there, why would you
want a diesel?
--
Toby
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"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message news:<8MIcKUAddp8$EwTd@iconia.org.uk>...
> In article <20031231024549.15336.00002240@mb-m04.aol.com>, Steve Grauman
> <oneactor1@aol.com> writes
> ><< I have heard however, of the V6 2.5 TDI coming to the golf V >>
> >
> >It would certainly *fit* which solves the debacle. =)
> >Sadly, we're Diesel deprived here in the U.S., if we get a TDi in the A3 it'll
> >probably be the same 2.0 4-cylinder now in the Passat. Chances are though, we
> >just won't get a Diesel variant of the A3.
>
> Out of interest, with petrol prices so cheap over there, why would you
> want a diesel?
Due to the fuel mileage differences, diesel is even cheaper on a per
mile basis. The good fuel mileage also gives great range on a tank of
fuel. The lower revs at speed make for a very quiet highway ride
(nice, in the land of highways) and the low-end torque is nice around
town. The simplicity of the ignitionless (well, standard sparkplug,
coil, etc.) motor, and the vast availablity of fuel. In addition,
it's possible to run the motors on vegetable oil, for those with that
bent.
Add to all that the TDI tech, which is nice for mostly removing the
clatter and smoke of previous VAG diesels, and you have a near-perfect
motor for most of what folks use cars for. Somebody else will have to
fill in the stuff that I missed.
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Jonesy
> In article <20031231024549.15336.00002240@mb-m04.aol.com>, Steve Grauman
> <oneactor1@aol.com> writes
> ><< I have heard however, of the V6 2.5 TDI coming to the golf V >>
> >
> >It would certainly *fit* which solves the debacle. =)
> >Sadly, we're Diesel deprived here in the U.S., if we get a TDi in the A3 it'll
> >probably be the same 2.0 4-cylinder now in the Passat. Chances are though, we
> >just won't get a Diesel variant of the A3.
>
> Out of interest, with petrol prices so cheap over there, why would you
> want a diesel?
Due to the fuel mileage differences, diesel is even cheaper on a per
mile basis. The good fuel mileage also gives great range on a tank of
fuel. The lower revs at speed make for a very quiet highway ride
(nice, in the land of highways) and the low-end torque is nice around
town. The simplicity of the ignitionless (well, standard sparkplug,
coil, etc.) motor, and the vast availablity of fuel. In addition,
it's possible to run the motors on vegetable oil, for those with that
bent.
Add to all that the TDI tech, which is nice for mostly removing the
clatter and smoke of previous VAG diesels, and you have a near-perfect
motor for most of what folks use cars for. Somebody else will have to
fill in the stuff that I missed.
--
Jonesy
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"Jonesy" <beelzebubba@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
news:<8MIcKUAddp8$EwTd@iconia.org.uk>...
> > In article <20031231024549.15336.00002240@mb-m04.aol.com>, Steve Grauman
> > <oneactor1@aol.com> writes
> > ><< I have heard however, of the V6 2.5 TDI coming to the golf V >>
> > >
> > >It would certainly *fit* which solves the debacle. =)
> > >Sadly, we're Diesel deprived here in the U.S., if we get a TDi in the
A3 it'll
> > >probably be the same 2.0 4-cylinder now in the Passat. Chances are
though, we
> > >just won't get a Diesel variant of the A3.
> >
> > Out of interest, with petrol prices so cheap over there, why would you
> > want a diesel?
>
> Due to the fuel mileage differences, diesel is even cheaper on a per
> mile basis. The good fuel mileage also gives great range on a tank of
> fuel. The lower revs at speed make for a very quiet highway ride
> (nice, in the land of highways) and the low-end torque is nice around
> town. The simplicity of the ignitionless (well, standard sparkplug,
> coil, etc.) motor, and the vast availablity of fuel. In addition,
> it's possible to run the motors on vegetable oil, for those with that
> bent.
>
> Add to all that the TDI tech, which is nice for mostly removing the
> clatter and smoke of previous VAG diesels, and you have a near-perfect
> motor for most of what folks use cars for. Somebody else will have to
> fill in the stuff that I missed.
> --
> Jonesy
You filled in more than I could have. I'd love to see more diesel cars
around here. In fact, I think the next car in the family will probably be a
Jetta TDI.
Romy,
1998.5 A4Q 2.8
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<< Somebody else will have to
fill in the stuff that I missed. >>
I think you nailed it Jonesy. Diesels are quieter, more fuel effiecent, and
make their power lower in the rev range. They won't give you incredible
accleration, but for anything from day to day around town driving to long
highway cruizing, they offer what many would consider a superior alternitive to
standard gas-burning engines.
fill in the stuff that I missed. >>
I think you nailed it Jonesy. Diesels are quieter, more fuel effiecent, and
make their power lower in the rev range. They won't give you incredible
accleration, but for anything from day to day around town driving to long
highway cruizing, they offer what many would consider a superior alternitive to
standard gas-burning engines.
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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> << Somebody else will have to
> fill in the stuff that I missed. >>
>
> I think you nailed it Jonesy. Diesels are quieter
Diesels quieter than petrol engines? Not a chance.
> more fuel effiecent, and make their power lower in the rev range. They
won't give you incredible
> accleration, but for anything from day to day around town driving to long
> highway cruizing, they offer what many would consider a superior
alternitive to
> standard gas-burning engines.
I had a chance to test drive the new A3, both diesel and petrol variants
(2.0TDI vs 3.2V6), while both were undeniably great cars, I was pleasantly
surprised by how good the TDI was. The power range was available more
through the mid range as compared to the entire range as afforded by the V6,
but I still cant make a decision about which of the two to go for.
"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031231205734.21513.00001237@mb-m23.aol.com...
> << Somebody else will have to
> fill in the stuff that I missed. >>
>
> I think you nailed it Jonesy. Diesels are quieter
Diesels quieter than petrol engines? Not a chance.
> more fuel effiecent, and make their power lower in the rev range. They
won't give you incredible
> accleration, but for anything from day to day around town driving to long
> highway cruizing, they offer what many would consider a superior
alternitive to
> standard gas-burning engines.
I had a chance to test drive the new A3, both diesel and petrol variants
(2.0TDI vs 3.2V6), while both were undeniably great cars, I was pleasantly
surprised by how good the TDI was. The power range was available more
through the mid range as compared to the entire range as afforded by the V6,
but I still cant make a decision about which of the two to go for.
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The V10 diesel engine used on the VW Touareg is one decibel quiter (72db)
than the V8 gazoline (73db).
And the V10 is more powerful, if I remember well has at least twice the
torque at almost half the rpm, is far more economical and less poluting than
the V8.
And has far getter in gear acceleration, with slightly better 0-60 miles
acceleration time and higher top speed.
Only drawback is that it costs more buy to buy.
Take care and Happy New Year
Pantelis
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> "Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031231205734.21513.00001237@mb-m23.aol.com...
> > << Somebody else will have to
> > fill in the stuff that I missed. >>
> >
> > I think you nailed it Jonesy. Diesels are quieter
>
> Diesels quieter than petrol engines? Not a chance.
>
> > more fuel effiecent, and make their power lower in the rev range. They
> won't give you incredible
> > accleration, but for anything from day to day around town driving to
long
> > highway cruizing, they offer what many would consider a superior
> alternitive to
> > standard gas-burning engines.
>
> I had a chance to test drive the new A3, both diesel and petrol variants
> (2.0TDI vs 3.2V6), while both were undeniably great cars, I was pleasantly
> surprised by how good the TDI was. The power range was available more
> through the mid range as compared to the entire range as afforded by the
V6,
> but I still cant make a decision about which of the two to go for.
>
>
than the V8 gazoline (73db).
And the V10 is more powerful, if I remember well has at least twice the
torque at almost half the rpm, is far more economical and less poluting than
the V8.
And has far getter in gear acceleration, with slightly better 0-60 miles
acceleration time and higher top speed.
Only drawback is that it costs more buy to buy.
Take care and Happy New Year
Pantelis
"Graham" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031231205734.21513.00001237@mb-m23.aol.com...
> > << Somebody else will have to
> > fill in the stuff that I missed. >>
> >
> > I think you nailed it Jonesy. Diesels are quieter
>
> Diesels quieter than petrol engines? Not a chance.
>
> > more fuel effiecent, and make their power lower in the rev range. They
> won't give you incredible
> > accleration, but for anything from day to day around town driving to
long
> > highway cruizing, they offer what many would consider a superior
> alternitive to
> > standard gas-burning engines.
>
> I had a chance to test drive the new A3, both diesel and petrol variants
> (2.0TDI vs 3.2V6), while both were undeniably great cars, I was pleasantly
> surprised by how good the TDI was. The power range was available more
> through the mid range as compared to the entire range as afforded by the
V6,
> but I still cant make a decision about which of the two to go for.
>
>