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laurentien 07-09-2007 08:43 AM

Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 E engines
 
Do you happen to have a car made recently (up to 5 years ) by VAG
(Audi VW, Skoda and Seat) fitted with either a 1.9 L TDi, 2.0 TDi or
2.0 E engine ? Then read this carefully.

The water pump design was changed by VAG to save some money in a way
that could be catastrophic to your engine. It is a volumetric pump so
the propeller or fan material is now made of plastic and it is mounted
on the shaft through a friction fit.

Any engineer knows that a friction fit between a plastic fan and a
steel is not bound to last long. We have obserrved that juste after
three years, several pumps start to slip leading to a variety of
symptoms that are not pointing necessarily to the pump progressive
failure.

VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.

Having an Audi 80 with a 1.9 TDi which is just a fantastic car with a
great engine, I feel that VAG should never make this kind of stupid
design error just in order to save a bit of money. Moreover, I would
even not accept that error from my students.


Chris Bartram 07-09-2007 02:16 PM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
laurentien wrote:

> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.



That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.

Chris Bartram 07-09-2007 02:16 PM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
laurentien wrote:

> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.



That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.

Chris Bartram 07-09-2007 02:16 PM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
laurentien wrote:

> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.



That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.

Chris Bartram 07-09-2007 02:16 PM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
laurentien wrote:

> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.



That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.

G-man uk 07-09-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
Chris Bartram wrote:
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.

>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.


Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.


G-man uk 07-09-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
Chris Bartram wrote:
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.

>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.


Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.


G-man uk 07-09-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
Chris Bartram wrote:
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.

>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.


Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.


G-man uk 07-09-2007 03:25 PM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
Chris Bartram wrote:
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.

>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.


Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.


Robert 07-10-2007 04:23 AM

Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
 
G-man uk wrote:
> Chris Bartram wrote:
>
>> laurentien wrote:
>>
>>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
>> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
>> though it's common on the 1.8T.

>
>
> Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
> impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
>


All,

Can someone tell us from which model year the 1,8T pump came fitted with
the metal impeller? I have a 2001 A4 1,8TS (older 8D chassis) and am
trying to figure out which impeller I have.

/Robert



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