Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 E engines
07-09-2007, 08:43 AM
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Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 E engines
Do you happen to have a car made recently (up to 5 years ) by VAG
(Audi VW, Skoda and Seat) fitted with either a 1.9 L TDi, 2.0 TDi or
2.0 E engine ? Then read this carefully.
The water pump design was changed by VAG to save some money in a way
that could be catastrophic to your engine. It is a volumetric pump so
the propeller or fan material is now made of plastic and it is mounted
on the shaft through a friction fit.
Any engineer knows that a friction fit between a plastic fan and a
steel is not bound to last long. We have obserrved that juste after
three years, several pumps start to slip leading to a variety of
symptoms that are not pointing necessarily to the pump progressive
failure.
VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
Having an Audi 80 with a 1.9 TDi which is just a fantastic car with a
great engine, I feel that VAG should never make this kind of stupid
design error just in order to save a bit of money. Moreover, I would
even not accept that error from my students.
(Audi VW, Skoda and Seat) fitted with either a 1.9 L TDi, 2.0 TDi or
2.0 E engine ? Then read this carefully.
The water pump design was changed by VAG to save some money in a way
that could be catastrophic to your engine. It is a volumetric pump so
the propeller or fan material is now made of plastic and it is mounted
on the shaft through a friction fit.
Any engineer knows that a friction fit between a plastic fan and a
steel is not bound to last long. We have obserrved that juste after
three years, several pumps start to slip leading to a variety of
symptoms that are not pointing necessarily to the pump progressive
failure.
VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
Having an Audi 80 with a 1.9 TDi which is just a fantastic car with a
great engine, I feel that VAG should never make this kind of stupid
design error just in order to save a bit of money. Moreover, I would
even not accept that error from my students.
07-09-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
laurentien wrote:
> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.
> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.
07-09-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
laurentien wrote:
> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.
> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.
07-09-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
laurentien wrote:
> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.
> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.
07-09-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
laurentien wrote:
> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.
> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
though it's common on the 1.8T.
07-09-2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
Chris Bartram wrote:
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.
Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.
Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
07-09-2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
Chris Bartram wrote:
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.
Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.
Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
07-09-2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
Chris Bartram wrote:
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.
Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.
Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
07-09-2007, 03:25 PM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
Chris Bartram wrote:
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.
Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
> laurentien wrote:
>
>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>
>
>
> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
> though it's common on the 1.8T.
Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
07-10-2007, 04:23 AM
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Re: Problem with water pump on recent 1.9 TDi, 2.0 TDi and 2.0 Eengines
G-man uk wrote:
> Chris Bartram wrote:
>
>> laurentien wrote:
>>
>>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
>> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
>> though it's common on the 1.8T.
>
>
> Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
> impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
>
All,
Can someone tell us from which model year the 1,8T pump came fitted with
the metal impeller? I have a 2001 A4 1,8TS (older 8D chassis) and am
trying to figure out which impeller I have.
/Robert
> Chris Bartram wrote:
>
>> laurentien wrote:
>>
>>> VAG has done a terrible design error and they should be ask to change
>>> their axis with a grooved one which will then be strong enough.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's old news. The pump *has* been changed for one with a metal
>> impeller. I've never heard of this problem with TDI engines either-
>> though it's common on the 1.8T.
>
>
> Also the basic non turbo 1.8. I had the problem with the plastic
> impeller and Audi replaced it FOC for a new water pump with metal impeller.
>
All,
Can someone tell us from which model year the 1,8T pump came fitted with
the metal impeller? I have a 2001 A4 1,8TS (older 8D chassis) and am
trying to figure out which impeller I have.
/Robert
