Premature timing belt failures
#61
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
On 8 Dec 2005 09:42:15 -0800, edavis@terawave.com wrote:
>I found this article listed in this group:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...d39993f41cdb09
>
>Although the posting was from 2003, I'd like to inform everyone that
>this problem is still very much an issue today.
>
>I own a 2001 Audi TT Roadster and just experienced belt failure at 73K
>miles. Despite the fact that I have maintained the vehicle per Audi's
>spec's at the dealership, they are taking no responsibility whatsoever.
>The owner's manual for my car requires replacement at 80K miles.
>
>>From the research I've done, it seems clear that Audi knows about this
>problem and is not acknowledging it. Looking back, I find it strange
>that my service advisor reccomended that I should "think about
>replacing my belt" even though he did not say there were any signs that
>it would suddenly fail. I'm seeing this repeated all over various
>postings on the web.
>
>I have talked with a number of shops that specialize in Audi's and the
>common knowledge in this community is that Audi belts fail early. I've
>also found a number of informative sources on the matter and would
>appreciate it if anyone out there who knows more could reply to this
>group, especially related to the class action case.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Eric Davis
>
>Link to a news article in the Boston Globe (posted 7-17-2005) about a
>class action lawsuit that Audi settled related to early belt failures:
>http://www.boston.com/business/artic...gine_of_change
>
>Link to a helpful shop in LA that has experience with these failures:
>http://stuttgartauto.com/Stuttgart%2...tive%20Inc.htm
I have an 87 Audi 5000s.
The original timing belt broke after 17 years.
My fault, should have replaced it sooner!
>I found this article listed in this group:
>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...d39993f41cdb09
>
>Although the posting was from 2003, I'd like to inform everyone that
>this problem is still very much an issue today.
>
>I own a 2001 Audi TT Roadster and just experienced belt failure at 73K
>miles. Despite the fact that I have maintained the vehicle per Audi's
>spec's at the dealership, they are taking no responsibility whatsoever.
>The owner's manual for my car requires replacement at 80K miles.
>
>>From the research I've done, it seems clear that Audi knows about this
>problem and is not acknowledging it. Looking back, I find it strange
>that my service advisor reccomended that I should "think about
>replacing my belt" even though he did not say there were any signs that
>it would suddenly fail. I'm seeing this repeated all over various
>postings on the web.
>
>I have talked with a number of shops that specialize in Audi's and the
>common knowledge in this community is that Audi belts fail early. I've
>also found a number of informative sources on the matter and would
>appreciate it if anyone out there who knows more could reply to this
>group, especially related to the class action case.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Eric Davis
>
>Link to a news article in the Boston Globe (posted 7-17-2005) about a
>class action lawsuit that Audi settled related to early belt failures:
>http://www.boston.com/business/artic...gine_of_change
>
>Link to a helpful shop in LA that has experience with these failures:
>http://stuttgartauto.com/Stuttgart%2...tive%20Inc.htm
I have an 87 Audi 5000s.
The original timing belt broke after 17 years.
My fault, should have replaced it sooner!
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
edavis@terawave.com wrote:
> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>
> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
> years 98-00.
>
> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>
[snippage]
I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
And please let me know how your negotiations
proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
'major surgery'.
cheers for the offer
Lloyd Bogart
> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>
> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
> years 98-00.
>
> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>
[snippage]
I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
And please let me know how your negotiations
proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
'major surgery'.
cheers for the offer
Lloyd Bogart
#63
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
edavis@terawave.com wrote:
> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>
> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
> years 98-00.
>
> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>
[snippage]
I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
And please let me know how your negotiations
proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
'major surgery'.
cheers for the offer
Lloyd Bogart
> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>
> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
> years 98-00.
>
> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>
[snippage]
I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
And please let me know how your negotiations
proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
'major surgery'.
cheers for the offer
Lloyd Bogart
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
edavis@terawave.com wrote:
> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>
> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
> years 98-00.
>
> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>
[snippage]
I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
And please let me know how your negotiations
proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
'major surgery'.
cheers for the offer
Lloyd Bogart
> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>
> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
> years 98-00.
>
> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>
[snippage]
I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
And please let me know how your negotiations
proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
'major surgery'.
cheers for the offer
Lloyd Bogart
#65
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
edavis@terawave.com wrote:
> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>
> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
> years 98-00.
>
> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>
[snippage]
I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
And please let me know how your negotiations
proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
'major surgery'.
cheers for the offer
Lloyd Bogart
> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>
> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
> years 98-00.
>
> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>
[snippage]
I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
And please let me know how your negotiations
proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
'major surgery'.
cheers for the offer
Lloyd Bogart
#66
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
>> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>>
>> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
>> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
>> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
>> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
>> years 98-00.
>>
>> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
>> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
>> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
>> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
>> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>>
>
>I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
>
>And please let me know how your negotiations
>proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
>(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
>a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
>'major surgery'.
>
I had mine replaced on my 2001 Audi A4 (2.8L V6) with 72,000 miles and
I have to tell you, the belt looked to be in excellent shape, as did
the water pump, tensioner and related parts.
The tech indicated the belt/associated parts could have easily gone
much longer. He actually showed me each part and where they usually
see a lot of wear.
I am not sure it would have made it to 105,000 miles (the Audi
recomended interval), but it certainly had more life beyond 72,000
miles!
But, I didn't want to take any chances, so I spent the $800 to have it
all replaced (rather than $4000 for a new engine!).
>>
>> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
>> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
>> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
>> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
>> years 98-00.
>>
>> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
>> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
>> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
>> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
>> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>>
>
>I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
>
>And please let me know how your negotiations
>proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
>(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
>a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
>'major surgery'.
>
I had mine replaced on my 2001 Audi A4 (2.8L V6) with 72,000 miles and
I have to tell you, the belt looked to be in excellent shape, as did
the water pump, tensioner and related parts.
The tech indicated the belt/associated parts could have easily gone
much longer. He actually showed me each part and where they usually
see a lot of wear.
I am not sure it would have made it to 105,000 miles (the Audi
recomended interval), but it certainly had more life beyond 72,000
miles!
But, I didn't want to take any chances, so I spent the $800 to have it
all replaced (rather than $4000 for a new engine!).
#67
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
>> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>>
>> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
>> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
>> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
>> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
>> years 98-00.
>>
>> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
>> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
>> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
>> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
>> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>>
>
>I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
>
>And please let me know how your negotiations
>proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
>(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
>a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
>'major surgery'.
>
I had mine replaced on my 2001 Audi A4 (2.8L V6) with 72,000 miles and
I have to tell you, the belt looked to be in excellent shape, as did
the water pump, tensioner and related parts.
The tech indicated the belt/associated parts could have easily gone
much longer. He actually showed me each part and where they usually
see a lot of wear.
I am not sure it would have made it to 105,000 miles (the Audi
recomended interval), but it certainly had more life beyond 72,000
miles!
But, I didn't want to take any chances, so I spent the $800 to have it
all replaced (rather than $4000 for a new engine!).
>>
>> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
>> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
>> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
>> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
>> years 98-00.
>>
>> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
>> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
>> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
>> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
>> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>>
>
>I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
>
>And please let me know how your negotiations
>proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
>(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
>a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
>'major surgery'.
>
I had mine replaced on my 2001 Audi A4 (2.8L V6) with 72,000 miles and
I have to tell you, the belt looked to be in excellent shape, as did
the water pump, tensioner and related parts.
The tech indicated the belt/associated parts could have easily gone
much longer. He actually showed me each part and where they usually
see a lot of wear.
I am not sure it would have made it to 105,000 miles (the Audi
recomended interval), but it certainly had more life beyond 72,000
miles!
But, I didn't want to take any chances, so I spent the $800 to have it
all replaced (rather than $4000 for a new engine!).
#68
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
>> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>>
>> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
>> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
>> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
>> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
>> years 98-00.
>>
>> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
>> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
>> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
>> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
>> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>>
>
>I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
>
>And please let me know how your negotiations
>proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
>(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
>a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
>'major surgery'.
>
I had mine replaced on my 2001 Audi A4 (2.8L V6) with 72,000 miles and
I have to tell you, the belt looked to be in excellent shape, as did
the water pump, tensioner and related parts.
The tech indicated the belt/associated parts could have easily gone
much longer. He actually showed me each part and where they usually
see a lot of wear.
I am not sure it would have made it to 105,000 miles (the Audi
recomended interval), but it certainly had more life beyond 72,000
miles!
But, I didn't want to take any chances, so I spent the $800 to have it
all replaced (rather than $4000 for a new engine!).
>>
>> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
>> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
>> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
>> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
>> years 98-00.
>>
>> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
>> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
>> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
>> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
>> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>>
>
>I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
>
>And please let me know how your negotiations
>proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
>(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
>a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
>'major surgery'.
>
I had mine replaced on my 2001 Audi A4 (2.8L V6) with 72,000 miles and
I have to tell you, the belt looked to be in excellent shape, as did
the water pump, tensioner and related parts.
The tech indicated the belt/associated parts could have easily gone
much longer. He actually showed me each part and where they usually
see a lot of wear.
I am not sure it would have made it to 105,000 miles (the Audi
recomended interval), but it certainly had more life beyond 72,000
miles!
But, I didn't want to take any chances, so I spent the $800 to have it
all replaced (rather than $4000 for a new engine!).
#69
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Re: Premature timing belt failures
>> A quick update on the timing belt thing...
>>
>> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
>> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
>> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
>> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
>> years 98-00.
>>
>> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
>> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
>> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
>> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
>> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>>
>
>I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
>
>And please let me know how your negotiations
>proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
>(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
>a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
>'major surgery'.
>
I had mine replaced on my 2001 Audi A4 (2.8L V6) with 72,000 miles and
I have to tell you, the belt looked to be in excellent shape, as did
the water pump, tensioner and related parts.
The tech indicated the belt/associated parts could have easily gone
much longer. He actually showed me each part and where they usually
see a lot of wear.
I am not sure it would have made it to 105,000 miles (the Audi
recomended interval), but it certainly had more life beyond 72,000
miles!
But, I didn't want to take any chances, so I spent the $800 to have it
all replaced (rather than $4000 for a new engine!).
>>
>> I received a copy of the New Jersey class action settlement, which I'll
>> be glad to send to anyone who desires it. (Just e-mail me directly at
>> edavis@terawave.com). The bottom line is that Audi agreed to pay
>> claims, etc to the defined settlement class which is A4 owners from
>> years 98-00.
>>
>> Although I'm not part of the settlement class, I do have the same base
>> engine 1.8L w/ TC, so I brought this to the attention of the dealer as
>> well as Audi of America and the *best* treament I received from them
>> was a credit for the cost of the timing belt repalcement (~$1500). I'll
>> still be pursuing compensation from Audi of America for the balance.
>>
>
>I'd be grateful for a copy of the suit, thanks.
>
>And please let me know how your negotiations
>proceed. I'm looking at 60K mi. on my 2000 A4,
>(actually made late 1999) and will need to make
>a decision this Spring on how to proceed with this
>'major surgery'.
>
I had mine replaced on my 2001 Audi A4 (2.8L V6) with 72,000 miles and
I have to tell you, the belt looked to be in excellent shape, as did
the water pump, tensioner and related parts.
The tech indicated the belt/associated parts could have easily gone
much longer. He actually showed me each part and where they usually
see a lot of wear.
I am not sure it would have made it to 105,000 miles (the Audi
recomended interval), but it certainly had more life beyond 72,000
miles!
But, I didn't want to take any chances, so I spent the $800 to have it
all replaced (rather than $4000 for a new engine!).
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