Pirelli tires wearing on outside edges
11-07-2003, 08:37 PM
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Pirelli tires wearing on outside edges
Our 2002 A6 with 21K has both front ties wearing the outside edge. It was in
for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering wheel
vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires are
well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated the
tires for us.
for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering wheel
vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires are
well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated the
tires for us.
11-10-2003, 03:03 PM
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Re: Pirelli tires wearing on outside edges
What you need is to have your steering aligned before fitting any new tyres
on.
My two cents,
JP
"Mike B." <mike@nowhere.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Our 2002 A6 with 21K has both front ties wearing the outside edge. It was
in
> for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering
wheel
> vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires
are
> well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
> Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
> The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated
the
> tires for us.
>
on.
My two cents,
JP
"Mike B." <mike@nowhere.com> escribió en el mensaje
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> Our 2002 A6 with 21K has both front ties wearing the outside edge. It was
in
> for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering
wheel
> vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires
are
> well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
> Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
> The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated
the
> tires for us.
>
11-10-2003, 05:44 PM
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Re: Pirelli tires wearing on outside edges
Yea, I would have the alignment checked. Sound like the front is toed
in.
Gene
"Mike B." <mike@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Our 2002 A6 with 21K has both front ties wearing the outside edge. It was
in
> for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering
wheel
> vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires
are
> well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
> Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
> The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated
the
> tires for us.
>
11-10-2003, 05:57 PM
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Re: Pirelli tires wearing on outside edges
"Mike B." <mike@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Our 2002 A6 with 21K has both front ties wearing the outside edge. It was
in
> for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering
wheel
> vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires
are
> well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
> Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
> The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated
the
> tires for us.
If it were 121k, then I'd take a look at wheel bearings and slackness in
tie-rods etc.
At such a relatively low mileage, I'd take a look at poor tyre [tire]
balancing and tracking.
Assuming that it's never been kerbed in its life, of course. (If it has,
then there's the chance of bent stub axles, damaged wheels, damaged
bearings, bent wishbones, and "the whole nine yards")
Either way, you would appear to have a severe alignment problem.. the trick
is in finding the precise cause ;o)
--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
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> Our 2002 A6 with 21K has both front ties wearing the outside edge. It was
in
> for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering
wheel
> vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires
are
> well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
> Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
> The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated
the
> tires for us.
If it were 121k, then I'd take a look at wheel bearings and slackness in
tie-rods etc.
At such a relatively low mileage, I'd take a look at poor tyre [tire]
balancing and tracking.
Assuming that it's never been kerbed in its life, of course. (If it has,
then there's the chance of bent stub axles, damaged wheels, damaged
bearings, bent wishbones, and "the whole nine yards")
Either way, you would appear to have a severe alignment problem.. the trick
is in finding the precise cause ;o)
--
Hairy One Kenobi
Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
reflect the opinions of the highly-opinionated person expressing the opinion
in the first place. So there!
11-13-2003, 06:24 AM
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Re: Pirelli tires wearing on outside edges
Hi,
Sounds like tracking to me too. If it is a Quattro, make sure you
find someone who has all of the right gear. You need to track toe
in/out at the front and back, as well as camber and a few other
things. If the right kit is not used, you'll end up with even worse
problems.
I find that as I drive my A6Q hard, I always wreck the outer edges of
the tyres because it suffers from horrible understeer, so I
automatically get my tyres rotated side-to-side every 2 months.
Hope this helps
Ashley
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:03:13 +0100, "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>What you need is to have your steering aligned before fitting any new tyres
>on.
>
>My two cents,
>
>JP
>
>"Mike B." <mike@nowhere.com> escribió en el mensaje
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>> Our 2002 A6 with 21K has both front ties wearing the outside edge. It was
>in
>> for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering
>wheel
>> vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires
>are
>> well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
>> Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
>> The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated
>the
>> tires for us.
>>
>
>************************************************* ****
>Ashley Shepherd
>email to ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net
>************************************************* ****
Sounds like tracking to me too. If it is a Quattro, make sure you
find someone who has all of the right gear. You need to track toe
in/out at the front and back, as well as camber and a few other
things. If the right kit is not used, you'll end up with even worse
problems.
I find that as I drive my A6Q hard, I always wreck the outer edges of
the tyres because it suffers from horrible understeer, so I
automatically get my tyres rotated side-to-side every 2 months.
Hope this helps
Ashley
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 22:03:13 +0100, "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>What you need is to have your steering aligned before fitting any new tyres
>on.
>
>My two cents,
>
>JP
>
>"Mike B." <mike@nowhere.com> escribió en el mensaje
>news:6GYqb.16088$Oo4.10697@newsread1.news.atl.ear thlink.net...
>> Our 2002 A6 with 21K has both front ties wearing the outside edge. It was
>in
>> for oil change and a few other things. Braking vibration and steering
>wheel
>> vibration were a few of the other problems. The dealer claims our tires
>are
>> well worn and in need of 4 new tires at $780.
>> Anyone have this problem? These are original Pirelli tires.
>> The tires look like they are flaking at the edges. Not that the rotated
>the
>> tires for us.
>>
>
>************************************************* ****
>Ashley Shepherd
>email to ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net
>************************************************* ****
11-13-2003, 11:24 AM
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Re: Pirelli tires wearing on outside edges
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:24:39 +0000, Ashley Shepherd
<ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net> wrote:
>I find that as I drive my A6Q hard, I always wreck the outer edges of
>the tyres because it suffers from horrible understeer, so I
>automatically get my tyres rotated side-to-side every 2 months.
You actually uunmount and remount the tiress from the rims every two
months? (That is the only type of tire rotation that will move the
outside edges to the inside. Leaving the tires on the rim and doing a
side-to-side rotation leaves you with the same outside edge, but the
tire is rotating the opposite direction)
Scott
<ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net> wrote:
>I find that as I drive my A6Q hard, I always wreck the outer edges of
>the tyres because it suffers from horrible understeer, so I
>automatically get my tyres rotated side-to-side every 2 months.
You actually uunmount and remount the tiress from the rims every two
months? (That is the only type of tire rotation that will move the
outside edges to the inside. Leaving the tires on the rim and doing a
side-to-side rotation leaves you with the same outside edge, but the
tire is rotating the opposite direction)
Scott
11-14-2003, 04:37 AM
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Re: Pirelli tires wearing on outside edges
Yes I do, it is the only way to make my tyres last more than 2 months.
I have also altered the tyre configuration. I run the old style
Goodyear F1 tyres on the rear, and the new style on the front. I have
found that the new F1's have about 5-10% more grip, and it has helped
to dial out some of the understeer, and increases my chances of
getting the rear-end to slide out a bit, thus making it "more fun to
drive"!?
I have also replaced the standard, useless, Audi brakes with Tarox.
These match the extra grip at the front, meaning braking is more
positive (especially in the wet, they actually work now).
Ashley
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:24:35 -0800, Scott <spam784@spam.spam> wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:24:39 +0000, Ashley Shepherd
><ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>I find that as I drive my A6Q hard, I always wreck the outer edges of
>>the tyres because it suffers from horrible understeer, so I
>>automatically get my tyres rotated side-to-side every 2 months.
>
>You actually uunmount and remount the tiress from the rims every two
>months? (That is the only type of tire rotation that will move the
>outside edges to the inside. Leaving the tires on the rim and doing a
>side-to-side rotation leaves you with the same outside edge, but the
>tire is rotating the opposite direction)
>
>Scott
>************************************************* ****
>Ashley Shepherd
>email to ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net
>************************************************* ****
I have also altered the tyre configuration. I run the old style
Goodyear F1 tyres on the rear, and the new style on the front. I have
found that the new F1's have about 5-10% more grip, and it has helped
to dial out some of the understeer, and increases my chances of
getting the rear-end to slide out a bit, thus making it "more fun to
drive"!?
I have also replaced the standard, useless, Audi brakes with Tarox.
These match the extra grip at the front, meaning braking is more
positive (especially in the wet, they actually work now).
Ashley
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 09:24:35 -0800, Scott <spam784@spam.spam> wrote:
>On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:24:39 +0000, Ashley Shepherd
><ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>I find that as I drive my A6Q hard, I always wreck the outer edges of
>>the tyres because it suffers from horrible understeer, so I
>>automatically get my tyres rotated side-to-side every 2 months.
>
>You actually uunmount and remount the tiress from the rims every two
>months? (That is the only type of tire rotation that will move the
>outside edges to the inside. Leaving the tires on the rim and doing a
>side-to-side rotation leaves you with the same outside edge, but the
>tire is rotating the opposite direction)
>
>Scott
>************************************************* ****
>Ashley Shepherd
>email to ashley.shepherd_minusthespam_@virgin.net
>************************************************* ****
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