To the owners of A6
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Re: To the owners of A6
It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car. Especially
when the same model offers a tiptronic.
This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
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"Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
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>> KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
>>
>> > >Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
>> > >glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
>> > >wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
>> > >the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
>> > >all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
>> > >link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
>>
>> > Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
>> > someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
>> > two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
>> > that car and find a different Audi.
>>
>> 2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare, at
>> least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
>> unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
>>
>
>
> Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
> real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
> from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
> can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
> Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
> were a stick without having to worry about replacing
> clutches.
>
>
>
> dk
>
>
when the same model offers a tiptronic.
This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
--
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"Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
> news:i46dnbaUYIcgDFXcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
>> KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
>>
>> > >Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
>> > >glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
>> > >wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
>> > >the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
>> > >all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
>> > >link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
>>
>> > Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
>> > someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
>> > two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
>> > that car and find a different Audi.
>>
>> 2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare, at
>> least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
>> unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
>>
>
>
> Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
> real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
> from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
> can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
> Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
> were a stick without having to worry about replacing
> clutches.
>
>
>
> dk
>
>
#52
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Re: To the owners of A6
It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car. Especially
when the same model offers a tiptronic.
This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
--
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Looking for cheap Austin Mini, Wagon, Clubman, Mokes and other variants for
sale in the USA.
"Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
> news:i46dnbaUYIcgDFXcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
>> KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
>>
>> > >Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
>> > >glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
>> > >wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
>> > >the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
>> > >all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
>> > >link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
>>
>> > Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
>> > someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
>> > two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
>> > that car and find a different Audi.
>>
>> 2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare, at
>> least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
>> unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
>>
>
>
> Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
> real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
> from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
> can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
> Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
> were a stick without having to worry about replacing
> clutches.
>
>
>
> dk
>
>
when the same model offers a tiptronic.
This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
--
_________________________________
http://austinmini.ositech.net
Looking for cheap Austin Mini, Wagon, Clubman, Mokes and other variants for
sale in the USA.
"Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:41ca60fb$1@news.meer.net...
>
>
> "KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
> news:i46dnbaUYIcgDFXcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
>> KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
>>
>> > >Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
>> > >glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
>> > >wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
>> > >the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
>> > >all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
>> > >link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
>>
>> > Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
>> > someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but these
>> > two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass on
>> > that car and find a different Audi.
>>
>> 2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare, at
>> least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
>> unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
>>
>
>
> Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
> real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
> from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
> can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
> Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
> were a stick without having to worry about replacing
> clutches.
>
>
>
> dk
>
>
#53
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Re: To the owners of A6
"AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote...
<< It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX. >>
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
Peter Smith
<< It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX. >>
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
Peter Smith
#54
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Re: To the owners of A6
"AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote...
<< It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX. >>
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
Peter Smith
<< It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX. >>
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
Peter Smith
#55
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Re: To the owners of A6
"AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote...
<< It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX. >>
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
Peter Smith
<< It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car...This is
why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX. >>
It befuddles me that anybody could use the words "luxury car" and "WRX" in
the same sentence, in the manner in which you have.
Peter Smith
#56
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Re: To the owners of A6
As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
as they are a definite safety hazard.
dk
"AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote in message
news:n2Byd.5424$h.2302@trnddc04...
> It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car. Especially
> when the same model offers a tiptronic.
>
> This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
>
> --
> _________________________________
> http://austinmini.ositech.net
> Looking for cheap Austin Mini, Wagon, Clubman, Mokes and other variants
for
> sale in the USA.
>
> "Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:41ca60fb$1@news.meer.net...
> >
> >
> > "KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
> > news:i46dnbaUYIcgDFXcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
> >> KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
> >> > >glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
> >> > >wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
> >> > >the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
> >> > >all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
> >> > >link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
> >>
> >> > Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
> >> > someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but
these
> >> > two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass
on
> >> > that car and find a different Audi.
> >>
> >> 2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare,
at
> >> least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
> >> unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
> > real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
> > from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
> > can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
> > Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
> > were a stick without having to worry about replacing
> > clutches.
> >
> >
> >
> > dk
> >
> >
>
>
#57
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Re: To the owners of A6
As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
as they are a definite safety hazard.
dk
"AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote in message
news:n2Byd.5424$h.2302@trnddc04...
> It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car. Especially
> when the same model offers a tiptronic.
>
> This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
>
> --
> _________________________________
> http://austinmini.ositech.net
> Looking for cheap Austin Mini, Wagon, Clubman, Mokes and other variants
for
> sale in the USA.
>
> "Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:41ca60fb$1@news.meer.net...
> >
> >
> > "KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
> > news:i46dnbaUYIcgDFXcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
> >> KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
> >> > >glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
> >> > >wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
> >> > >the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
> >> > >all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
> >> > >link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
> >>
> >> > Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
> >> > someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but
these
> >> > two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass
on
> >> > that car and find a different Audi.
> >>
> >> 2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare,
at
> >> least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
> >> unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
> > real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
> > from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
> > can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
> > Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
> > were a stick without having to worry about replacing
> > clutches.
> >
> >
> >
> > dk
> >
> >
>
>
#58
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Re: To the owners of A6
As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
as they are a definite safety hazard.
dk
"AustinMini.OsiTech.Net" <QuickSilver@OsiTech.Net(remove)> wrote in message
news:n2Byd.5424$h.2302@trnddc04...
> It befuddles me why anyone will want a stick shift luxury car. Especially
> when the same model offers a tiptronic.
>
> This is why I ended up with an Audi and not a WRX.
>
> --
> _________________________________
> http://austinmini.ositech.net
> Looking for cheap Austin Mini, Wagon, Clubman, Mokes and other variants
for
> sale in the USA.
>
> "Dan Koren" <dankoren@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:41ca60fb$1@news.meer.net...
> >
> >
> > "KIP" <not@foruse.org> wrote in message
> > news:i46dnbaUYIcgDFXcRVn-sg@rcn.net...
> >> KLS <xymergy@suds.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 12:05:53 -0600, KIP <not@foruse.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >Me and my wife test drove a 2001 A6 2.7T 6M and found a couple of
> >> > >glitches which I would like to share with the group. The steering
> >> > >wheel does not provide a reasonable response even in turns, and
> >> > >the gas pedal is so light that you do not feel any resistance at
> >> > >all. As far as I know it is a 'drive-by-wire' system, not a direct
> >> > >link, and it might be a cause of the problem.
> >>
> >> > Subaru is a lot cheaper than Audi, so do consider it (advice from
> >> > someone with a 1999 Legacy Outback and a 1998 Audi A4 2.8Q), but
these
> >> > two features of the car you drove are not normal for an Audi. Pass
on
> >> > that car and find a different Audi.
> >>
> >> 2001 A6s are coming off lease, and those with a stick shift are rare,
at
> >> least in my area. Only two of them are near by. Not too many choices
> >> unfortunately. I'll try to look onto another one later this week.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Then ask yourself whether having a stick-shift is a
> > real requirement, or just a prejudice or superstition
> > from another time. There isn't anything a stick-shift
> > can do that an automatic cannot -- especially one like
> > Audi's Tiptronic, which you can always drive as if it
> > were a stick without having to worry about replacing
> > clutches.
> >
> >
> >
> > dk
> >
> >
>
>
#59
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Re: To the owners of A6
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:42:17 -0500, Dan Koren wrote:
>
> As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
> change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
> clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
> shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
> also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
> completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
> Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
>
> Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
> as they are a definite safety hazard.
>
I just wish the A6 tiptronic offered something closer
to the 0.2 second tip shift in the higher end Euro
sport cars. Seems like most the time our cars are
closer to 3-5 times slower than that. Other brands
measure and brag about their tip shift times. I
haven't seen those numbers in any A6/8 brochure. But
then the typical Audi customer is probably more
concerned about the smoothness of the shift rather than
the rate.
>
> As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
> change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
> clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
> shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
> also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
> completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
> Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
>
> Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
> as they are a definite safety hazard.
>
I just wish the A6 tiptronic offered something closer
to the 0.2 second tip shift in the higher end Euro
sport cars. Seems like most the time our cars are
closer to 3-5 times slower than that. Other brands
measure and brag about their tip shift times. I
haven't seen those numbers in any A6/8 brochure. But
then the typical Audi customer is probably more
concerned about the smoothness of the shift rather than
the rate.
#60
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Re: To the owners of A6
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 14:42:17 -0500, Dan Koren wrote:
>
> As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
> change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
> clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
> shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
> also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
> completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
> Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
>
> Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
> as they are a definite safety hazard.
>
I just wish the A6 tiptronic offered something closer
to the 0.2 second tip shift in the higher end Euro
sport cars. Seems like most the time our cars are
closer to 3-5 times slower than that. Other brands
measure and brag about their tip shift times. I
haven't seen those numbers in any A6/8 brochure. But
then the typical Audi customer is probably more
concerned about the smoothness of the shift rather than
the rate.
>
> As you may have noticed, mindsets take a lot longer to
> change than technology. 50 years ago, automatics were
> clunkier, heavier and less fuel efficient than stick
> shifts, not to mention less responsive. They were
> also less reliable. Nowadays, things have reversed
> completely. Even race cars use automatics nowadays.
> Race drivers cannot shift as quickly as an automatic.
>
> Some people however still cling to their prejudices.
>
> Personally, I'd like to see stick-shifts outlawed
> as they are a definite safety hazard.
>
I just wish the A6 tiptronic offered something closer
to the 0.2 second tip shift in the higher end Euro
sport cars. Seems like most the time our cars are
closer to 3-5 times slower than that. Other brands
measure and brag about their tip shift times. I
haven't seen those numbers in any A6/8 brochure. But
then the typical Audi customer is probably more
concerned about the smoothness of the shift rather than
the rate.