oil used in 2003 A4
11-09-2004, 10:14 PM
#11
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
>Well, that's interesting. AFAIK, all dealers are now supposed to use one of
>the oils that were referenced in AoA statement provided by BillyRay,
>regardless if you choose to change it every 10K or every 5K or every 1K
>miles, or whatever. You do understand that Audi will only pay for the 10K
>changes, so if you want it done more often, you'll have to pay for it
>yourself.
>
the dealer in Colorado Springs still uses Castrol GTX (conventional)
oil with 10K changes (at least for my 2.8L V6). I always pay the
extra and get synthetic (they offer Belgian Castrol Syntec 5W40).
>Since you don't have a turbo, I'd say 10K mile changes with synthetic oil
>are fine, or at least once a year, whichever comes first.
>
>AFAIK, the car comes filled with Castrol SLX 0w-30 (full synth.) from the
>factory.
>
that is also my understanding.
>the oils that were referenced in AoA statement provided by BillyRay,
>regardless if you choose to change it every 10K or every 5K or every 1K
>miles, or whatever. You do understand that Audi will only pay for the 10K
>changes, so if you want it done more often, you'll have to pay for it
>yourself.
>
the dealer in Colorado Springs still uses Castrol GTX (conventional)
oil with 10K changes (at least for my 2.8L V6). I always pay the
extra and get synthetic (they offer Belgian Castrol Syntec 5W40).
>Since you don't have a turbo, I'd say 10K mile changes with synthetic oil
>are fine, or at least once a year, whichever comes first.
>
>AFAIK, the car comes filled with Castrol SLX 0w-30 (full synth.) from the
>factory.
>
that is also my understanding.
11-10-2004, 12:19 PM
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
Is this model related or just an user option ?
If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > 10k-mile oil?
>
> In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > 10k-mile oil?
>
> In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
11-10-2004, 12:19 PM
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
Is this model related or just an user option ?
If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > 10k-mile oil?
>
> In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > 10k-mile oil?
>
> In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
11-10-2004, 12:44 PM
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
"Jorge Fonyat" wrote
> I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
12 months in service is not new by any means, IMO. Oxidation takes
place while the oil is in the engine, whether you use it or not. If you
do mostly short trips, vapor condensation may also be present.
If you only do 3K miles a year, you might consider switching to a less
expensive mineral or synthetic-blend oil to save money, but I'd still
change it at least once a year.
Cheers,
Pete
11-10-2004, 12:44 PM
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
"Jorge Fonyat" wrote
> I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
12 months in service is not new by any means, IMO. Oxidation takes
place while the oil is in the engine, whether you use it or not. If you
do mostly short trips, vapor condensation may also be present.
If you only do 3K miles a year, you might consider switching to a less
expensive mineral or synthetic-blend oil to save money, but I'd still
change it at least once a year.
Cheers,
Pete
11-10-2004, 12:54 PM
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
In message <d5fcf53a.0411101019.613aa799@posting.google.com >
fonyat@attglobal.net (Jorge Fonyat) wrote:
> Is this model related or just an user option ?
AFAIAA, it applies to all models across the Audi range, except for the
RS6. Cars come from the factory filled with long-life oil and it is
then up to the owner whether they want fixed or variable servicing
intervals. However, this only started in 2000 - I don't know whether
earlier cars can be moved to the variable service interval regime.
My feeling is that if you opted to fill your car with the higher spec
oil, then it would be perfectly okay to go two years between changes.
The appropriate oil spec is VW 503.00 (or VW 503.01 - intended for the
RS4 and 1.8T over 180bhp). I'm not sure what brands are most commonly
available in the USA but, for instance, Valvoline Synpower XL meets the
lower spec and Synpower MXL the higher spec.
> If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
> interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
> This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
>
> Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> > In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> > Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > > 10k-mile oil?
> >
> > In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> > interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> > is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> > the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> > for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
fonyat@attglobal.net (Jorge Fonyat) wrote:
> Is this model related or just an user option ?
AFAIAA, it applies to all models across the Audi range, except for the
RS6. Cars come from the factory filled with long-life oil and it is
then up to the owner whether they want fixed or variable servicing
intervals. However, this only started in 2000 - I don't know whether
earlier cars can be moved to the variable service interval regime.
My feeling is that if you opted to fill your car with the higher spec
oil, then it would be perfectly okay to go two years between changes.
The appropriate oil spec is VW 503.00 (or VW 503.01 - intended for the
RS4 and 1.8T over 180bhp). I'm not sure what brands are most commonly
available in the USA but, for instance, Valvoline Synpower XL meets the
lower spec and Synpower MXL the higher spec.
> If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
> interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
> This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
>
> Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> > In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> > Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > > 10k-mile oil?
> >
> > In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> > interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> > is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> > the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> > for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
11-10-2004, 12:54 PM
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
In message <d5fcf53a.0411101019.613aa799@posting.google.com >
fonyat@attglobal.net (Jorge Fonyat) wrote:
> Is this model related or just an user option ?
AFAIAA, it applies to all models across the Audi range, except for the
RS6. Cars come from the factory filled with long-life oil and it is
then up to the owner whether they want fixed or variable servicing
intervals. However, this only started in 2000 - I don't know whether
earlier cars can be moved to the variable service interval regime.
My feeling is that if you opted to fill your car with the higher spec
oil, then it would be perfectly okay to go two years between changes.
The appropriate oil spec is VW 503.00 (or VW 503.01 - intended for the
RS4 and 1.8T over 180bhp). I'm not sure what brands are most commonly
available in the USA but, for instance, Valvoline Synpower XL meets the
lower spec and Synpower MXL the higher spec.
> If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
> interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
> This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
>
> Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> > In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> > Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > > 10k-mile oil?
> >
> > In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> > interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> > is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> > the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> > for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
fonyat@attglobal.net (Jorge Fonyat) wrote:
> Is this model related or just an user option ?
AFAIAA, it applies to all models across the Audi range, except for the
RS6. Cars come from the factory filled with long-life oil and it is
then up to the owner whether they want fixed or variable servicing
intervals. However, this only started in 2000 - I don't know whether
earlier cars can be moved to the variable service interval regime.
My feeling is that if you opted to fill your car with the higher spec
oil, then it would be perfectly okay to go two years between changes.
The appropriate oil spec is VW 503.00 (or VW 503.01 - intended for the
RS4 and 1.8T over 180bhp). I'm not sure what brands are most commonly
available in the USA but, for instance, Valvoline Synpower XL meets the
lower spec and Synpower MXL the higher spec.
> If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
> interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
> This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
>
> Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> > In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> > Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > > 10k-mile oil?
> >
> > In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> > interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> > is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> > the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> > for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
11-11-2004, 04:54 PM
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
Pete and Peter,
Thanks for your points.
In fact I have no room to use a more basic oil. Audi in Brazil only
accepts 100% synthetics. (they say it is due to the sludge problem)
So, the only variable that is in my control is the time interval.
And, Pete, yes, I do a lot of short commuting. Besides, temperatures
here are like in Florida.
Best Regards, Jorge
Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<1b68c80b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <d5fcf53a.0411101019.613aa799@posting.google.com >
> fonyat@attglobal.net (Jorge Fonyat) wrote:
>
> > Is this model related or just an user option ?
>
> AFAIAA, it applies to all models across the Audi range, except for the
> RS6. Cars come from the factory filled with long-life oil and it is
> then up to the owner whether they want fixed or variable servicing
> intervals. However, this only started in 2000 - I don't know whether
> earlier cars can be moved to the variable service interval regime.
>
> My feeling is that if you opted to fill your car with the higher spec
> oil, then it would be perfectly okay to go two years between changes.
> The appropriate oil spec is VW 503.00 (or VW 503.01 - intended for the
> RS4 and 1.8T over 180bhp). I'm not sure what brands are most commonly
> available in the USA but, for instance, Valvoline Synpower XL meets the
> lower spec and Synpower MXL the higher spec.
>
> > If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
> > interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
> > This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> > VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> > Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
> >
> > Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> > > In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> > > Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > > > 10k-mile oil?
> > >
> > > In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> > > interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> > > is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> > > the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> > > for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
Thanks for your points.
In fact I have no room to use a more basic oil. Audi in Brazil only
accepts 100% synthetics. (they say it is due to the sludge problem)
So, the only variable that is in my control is the time interval.
And, Pete, yes, I do a lot of short commuting. Besides, temperatures
here are like in Florida.
Best Regards, Jorge
Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<1b68c80b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <d5fcf53a.0411101019.613aa799@posting.google.com >
> fonyat@attglobal.net (Jorge Fonyat) wrote:
>
> > Is this model related or just an user option ?
>
> AFAIAA, it applies to all models across the Audi range, except for the
> RS6. Cars come from the factory filled with long-life oil and it is
> then up to the owner whether they want fixed or variable servicing
> intervals. However, this only started in 2000 - I don't know whether
> earlier cars can be moved to the variable service interval regime.
>
> My feeling is that if you opted to fill your car with the higher spec
> oil, then it would be perfectly okay to go two years between changes.
> The appropriate oil spec is VW 503.00 (or VW 503.01 - intended for the
> RS4 and 1.8T over 180bhp). I'm not sure what brands are most commonly
> available in the USA but, for instance, Valvoline Synpower XL meets the
> lower spec and Synpower MXL the higher spec.
>
> > If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
> > interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
> > This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> > VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> > Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
> >
> > Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> > > In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> > > Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > > > 10k-mile oil?
> > >
> > > In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> > > interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> > > is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> > > the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> > > for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
11-11-2004, 04:54 PM
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Re: oil used in 2003 A4
Pete and Peter,
Thanks for your points.
In fact I have no room to use a more basic oil. Audi in Brazil only
accepts 100% synthetics. (they say it is due to the sludge problem)
So, the only variable that is in my control is the time interval.
And, Pete, yes, I do a lot of short commuting. Besides, temperatures
here are like in Florida.
Best Regards, Jorge
Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<1b68c80b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <d5fcf53a.0411101019.613aa799@posting.google.com >
> fonyat@attglobal.net (Jorge Fonyat) wrote:
>
> > Is this model related or just an user option ?
>
> AFAIAA, it applies to all models across the Audi range, except for the
> RS6. Cars come from the factory filled with long-life oil and it is
> then up to the owner whether they want fixed or variable servicing
> intervals. However, this only started in 2000 - I don't know whether
> earlier cars can be moved to the variable service interval regime.
>
> My feeling is that if you opted to fill your car with the higher spec
> oil, then it would be perfectly okay to go two years between changes.
> The appropriate oil spec is VW 503.00 (or VW 503.01 - intended for the
> RS4 and 1.8T over 180bhp). I'm not sure what brands are most commonly
> available in the USA but, for instance, Valvoline Synpower XL meets the
> lower spec and Synpower MXL the higher spec.
>
> > If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
> > interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
> > This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> > VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> > Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
> >
> > Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> > > In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> > > Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > > > 10k-mile oil?
> > >
> > > In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> > > interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> > > is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> > > the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> > > for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
Thanks for your points.
In fact I have no room to use a more basic oil. Audi in Brazil only
accepts 100% synthetics. (they say it is due to the sludge problem)
So, the only variable that is in my control is the time interval.
And, Pete, yes, I do a lot of short commuting. Besides, temperatures
here are like in Florida.
Best Regards, Jorge
Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message news:<1b68c80b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> In message <d5fcf53a.0411101019.613aa799@posting.google.com >
> fonyat@attglobal.net (Jorge Fonyat) wrote:
>
> > Is this model related or just an user option ?
>
> AFAIAA, it applies to all models across the Audi range, except for the
> RS6. Cars come from the factory filled with long-life oil and it is
> then up to the owner whether they want fixed or variable servicing
> intervals. However, this only started in 2000 - I don't know whether
> earlier cars can be moved to the variable service interval regime.
>
> My feeling is that if you opted to fill your car with the higher spec
> oil, then it would be perfectly okay to go two years between changes.
> The appropriate oil spec is VW 503.00 (or VW 503.01 - intended for the
> RS4 and 1.8T over 180bhp). I'm not sure what brands are most commonly
> available in the USA but, for instance, Valvoline Synpower XL meets the
> lower spec and Synpower MXL the higher spec.
>
> > If it is an user option it means that the "never more than 1 year"
> > interval between oil changes (regardless mileage) has been doubled.
> > This is fundamental to me, as I run just 3,000 miles/year and feel
> > VERY discomfortable in changing almost new synthec every 12 months.
> > Jorge (A4 1996 2.8 12V)
> >
> > Peter Bell <peter@invalid.org.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<d12c0e0b4d.peter@iyonix.earley.fourcom.com>. ..
> > > In message <5LYjd.384135$D%.144428@attbi_s51>
> > > Bob Navarro <rwnavarro2@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > > What oil is used from the factory, and do they really use a different
> > > > 10k-mile oil?
> > >
> > > In the UK (and the rest of Europe?), there are options of standard fixed
> > > interval servicing and variable interval servicing. The fixed interval
> > > is normally 1 year/10,000 miles (and more miles for a diesel engine),
> > > the variable interval can be anything up to 2 years/20,000 miles (30,000
> > > for a diesel). Different oils are used for the two options.
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