The new A6, the realtime impressions
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The new A6, the realtime impressions
Hi folks,
yesterday I was invited to the presentation of the new A6 at my
dealer.
In europe the A6 is generally presented these days and Austria is no
exception.
When I saw the new body the first time on pictures I was disappointed
about the grille. No, not disappointed, I was startled. The back
appeared to be nice but the front was odd.
Now, you folks who saw the pictures, know what I mean.
Finally I saw it in realtime and I instantly was converted. This car
is a beauty.
The rear end is even better than I thought and the front is amazing.
It does not at all look clumsy or odd or heavy. The grille fits _very_
nicely between those headlights and the line of the car is just
fantastic.
Now for the interior:
The car had the 3.0l TDI engine (225 HP) and they had two of them
standing there de facto fully loaded. You could sit inside and feel
around, the batteries were actually connected so one could check the
displays et al.
What I instantly liked were the seats. Leatherseats with excellent
side support. I saw with enlightment that they reintroduced the
extendable support for your upper legs. (Although, while pulling it
out I hurt my finger .
The parking brake is now electrical, so no lever, just a tiny flip
up/down switch.
Seating comfort is great and the increased legroom is very nice. I'm
186 cm tall (roughly 6'1) and if I sit comfortably in the front for
driving and then change to the rearseat behind the drivers seat there
is enough legroom for someone like me for a long trip.
Feel and touch is very nice and firm.
The MMI (Multi Media Interface) is handy, but I did not have the time
to play around a lot with it.
However, what set me back a little that it is in fact impossible to
add an aftermarket radio to the car. I asked the head of the austrian
Audi sales and they confirmed that it is not planned that this is
possible. That means that you either have an Audi radio/navigation
etc. or none (if that's possible anyway.
There is just no DIN slot anymore available to insert a radio or in
dash CD or whatever.
And worse, you can hardly upgrade the system you bought in the
beginning to a better one (unless it's audi). And the better ones have
the larger displays. So all in all it might be a bit hard to change
anything there. Better buy everything right from the start.
The salesman also told me that the MMI electronics is fully integrated
into the cars electronics so messing around with it could mean messing
around with drive electronics et all. Not somehting one wants to do
lightheartedly.
But I'm sure the aftermarket industry will have their own developments
out soon
The Cruise Control is still on a (now separate) stick behind the
steering wheel. I.e. not on the wheel as with the BMW's. I regret
that, but test driving the A4 I got used to it fairly quickly.
All in all I must say I liked the interior and the feeling of room,
yet at the same time of close surrounding like a glove. Hard to
describe.
I could not drive the car (the test cars will be available beginning
of may) but I definitley plan to.
Oh and the Avant will be released by spring next year. By end of this
year the car will see a third diesel engine with 2.7 liters and 177
HP.
Regards
Wolfgang
--
* Audi A6 Avant TDI *
* reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
yesterday I was invited to the presentation of the new A6 at my
dealer.
In europe the A6 is generally presented these days and Austria is no
exception.
When I saw the new body the first time on pictures I was disappointed
about the grille. No, not disappointed, I was startled. The back
appeared to be nice but the front was odd.
Now, you folks who saw the pictures, know what I mean.
Finally I saw it in realtime and I instantly was converted. This car
is a beauty.
The rear end is even better than I thought and the front is amazing.
It does not at all look clumsy or odd or heavy. The grille fits _very_
nicely between those headlights and the line of the car is just
fantastic.
Now for the interior:
The car had the 3.0l TDI engine (225 HP) and they had two of them
standing there de facto fully loaded. You could sit inside and feel
around, the batteries were actually connected so one could check the
displays et al.
What I instantly liked were the seats. Leatherseats with excellent
side support. I saw with enlightment that they reintroduced the
extendable support for your upper legs. (Although, while pulling it
out I hurt my finger .
The parking brake is now electrical, so no lever, just a tiny flip
up/down switch.
Seating comfort is great and the increased legroom is very nice. I'm
186 cm tall (roughly 6'1) and if I sit comfortably in the front for
driving and then change to the rearseat behind the drivers seat there
is enough legroom for someone like me for a long trip.
Feel and touch is very nice and firm.
The MMI (Multi Media Interface) is handy, but I did not have the time
to play around a lot with it.
However, what set me back a little that it is in fact impossible to
add an aftermarket radio to the car. I asked the head of the austrian
Audi sales and they confirmed that it is not planned that this is
possible. That means that you either have an Audi radio/navigation
etc. or none (if that's possible anyway.
There is just no DIN slot anymore available to insert a radio or in
dash CD or whatever.
And worse, you can hardly upgrade the system you bought in the
beginning to a better one (unless it's audi). And the better ones have
the larger displays. So all in all it might be a bit hard to change
anything there. Better buy everything right from the start.
The salesman also told me that the MMI electronics is fully integrated
into the cars electronics so messing around with it could mean messing
around with drive electronics et all. Not somehting one wants to do
lightheartedly.
But I'm sure the aftermarket industry will have their own developments
out soon
The Cruise Control is still on a (now separate) stick behind the
steering wheel. I.e. not on the wheel as with the BMW's. I regret
that, but test driving the A4 I got used to it fairly quickly.
All in all I must say I liked the interior and the feeling of room,
yet at the same time of close surrounding like a glove. Hard to
describe.
I could not drive the car (the test cars will be available beginning
of may) but I definitley plan to.
Oh and the Avant will be released by spring next year. By end of this
year the car will see a third diesel engine with 2.7 liters and 177
HP.
Regards
Wolfgang
--
* Audi A6 Avant TDI *
* reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
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Re: The new A6, the realtime impressions
"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz@a1.net> skrev i melding
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> Finally I saw it in realtime and I instantly was converted. This car
> is a beauty.
> All in all I must say I liked the interior and the feeling of room,
> yet at the same time of close surrounding like a glove. Hard to
> describe.
I could not agree more! A beauty.
news:s2jh80l1489pr0oa926du9386cslfqbhec@4ax.com...
> Finally I saw it in realtime and I instantly was converted. This car
> is a beauty.
> All in all I must say I liked the interior and the feeling of room,
> yet at the same time of close surrounding like a glove. Hard to
> describe.
I could not agree more! A beauty.
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Re: The new A6, the realtime impressions
"Audiman" <jejoerst@online.no> skrev i melding
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> "Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz@a1.net> skrev i melding
> news:s2jh80l1489pr0oa926du9386cslfqbhec@4ax.com...
> > Finally I saw it in realtime and I instantly was converted. This car
> > is a beauty.
I could not agree more! A stunning beauty!
news:Y4Ric.81$id.1406@news2.e.nsc.no...
> "Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz@a1.net> skrev i melding
> news:s2jh80l1489pr0oa926du9386cslfqbhec@4ax.com...
> > Finally I saw it in realtime and I instantly was converted. This car
> > is a beauty.
I could not agree more! A stunning beauty!
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Re: The new A6, the realtime impressions
I have no serious problem with the new exterior (even if the rear looks a
lot like a Saturn LS), but I am appalled by the pictures of the new
dashboard.
"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz@a1.net> wrote in message
news:s2jh80l1489pr0oa926du9386cslfqbhec@4ax.com...
> Hi folks,
>
> yesterday I was invited to the presentation of the new A6 at my
> dealer.
>
> In europe the A6 is generally presented these days and Austria is no
> exception.
>
> When I saw the new body the first time on pictures I was disappointed
> about the grille. No, not disappointed, I was startled. The back
> appeared to be nice but the front was odd.
>
> Now, you folks who saw the pictures, know what I mean.
>
> Finally I saw it in realtime and I instantly was converted. This car
> is a beauty.
>
> The rear end is even better than I thought and the front is amazing.
> It does not at all look clumsy or odd or heavy. The grille fits _very_
> nicely between those headlights and the line of the car is just
> fantastic.
>
> Now for the interior:
>
> The car had the 3.0l TDI engine (225 HP) and they had two of them
> standing there de facto fully loaded. You could sit inside and feel
> around, the batteries were actually connected so one could check the
> displays et al.
>
> What I instantly liked were the seats. Leatherseats with excellent
> side support. I saw with enlightment that they reintroduced the
> extendable support for your upper legs. (Although, while pulling it
> out I hurt my finger .
>
> The parking brake is now electrical, so no lever, just a tiny flip
> up/down switch.
>
> Seating comfort is great and the increased legroom is very nice. I'm
> 186 cm tall (roughly 6'1) and if I sit comfortably in the front for
> driving and then change to the rearseat behind the drivers seat there
> is enough legroom for someone like me for a long trip.
>
> Feel and touch is very nice and firm.
>
> The MMI (Multi Media Interface) is handy, but I did not have the time
> to play around a lot with it.
>
> However, what set me back a little that it is in fact impossible to
> add an aftermarket radio to the car. I asked the head of the austrian
> Audi sales and they confirmed that it is not planned that this is
> possible. That means that you either have an Audi radio/navigation
> etc. or none (if that's possible anyway.
>
> There is just no DIN slot anymore available to insert a radio or in
> dash CD or whatever.
>
> And worse, you can hardly upgrade the system you bought in the
> beginning to a better one (unless it's audi). And the better ones have
> the larger displays. So all in all it might be a bit hard to change
> anything there. Better buy everything right from the start.
>
> The salesman also told me that the MMI electronics is fully integrated
> into the cars electronics so messing around with it could mean messing
> around with drive electronics et all. Not somehting one wants to do
> lightheartedly.
>
> But I'm sure the aftermarket industry will have their own developments
> out soon
>
> The Cruise Control is still on a (now separate) stick behind the
> steering wheel. I.e. not on the wheel as with the BMW's. I regret
> that, but test driving the A4 I got used to it fairly quickly.
>
> All in all I must say I liked the interior and the feeling of room,
> yet at the same time of close surrounding like a glove. Hard to
> describe.
>
> I could not drive the car (the test cars will be available beginning
> of may) but I definitley plan to.
>
> Oh and the Avant will be released by spring next year. By end of this
> year the car will see a third diesel engine with 2.7 liters and 177
> HP.
>
> Regards
>
> Wolfgang
> --
> * Audi A6 Avant TDI *
> * reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
lot like a Saturn LS), but I am appalled by the pictures of the new
dashboard.
"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz@a1.net> wrote in message
news:s2jh80l1489pr0oa926du9386cslfqbhec@4ax.com...
> Hi folks,
>
> yesterday I was invited to the presentation of the new A6 at my
> dealer.
>
> In europe the A6 is generally presented these days and Austria is no
> exception.
>
> When I saw the new body the first time on pictures I was disappointed
> about the grille. No, not disappointed, I was startled. The back
> appeared to be nice but the front was odd.
>
> Now, you folks who saw the pictures, know what I mean.
>
> Finally I saw it in realtime and I instantly was converted. This car
> is a beauty.
>
> The rear end is even better than I thought and the front is amazing.
> It does not at all look clumsy or odd or heavy. The grille fits _very_
> nicely between those headlights and the line of the car is just
> fantastic.
>
> Now for the interior:
>
> The car had the 3.0l TDI engine (225 HP) and they had two of them
> standing there de facto fully loaded. You could sit inside and feel
> around, the batteries were actually connected so one could check the
> displays et al.
>
> What I instantly liked were the seats. Leatherseats with excellent
> side support. I saw with enlightment that they reintroduced the
> extendable support for your upper legs. (Although, while pulling it
> out I hurt my finger .
>
> The parking brake is now electrical, so no lever, just a tiny flip
> up/down switch.
>
> Seating comfort is great and the increased legroom is very nice. I'm
> 186 cm tall (roughly 6'1) and if I sit comfortably in the front for
> driving and then change to the rearseat behind the drivers seat there
> is enough legroom for someone like me for a long trip.
>
> Feel and touch is very nice and firm.
>
> The MMI (Multi Media Interface) is handy, but I did not have the time
> to play around a lot with it.
>
> However, what set me back a little that it is in fact impossible to
> add an aftermarket radio to the car. I asked the head of the austrian
> Audi sales and they confirmed that it is not planned that this is
> possible. That means that you either have an Audi radio/navigation
> etc. or none (if that's possible anyway.
>
> There is just no DIN slot anymore available to insert a radio or in
> dash CD or whatever.
>
> And worse, you can hardly upgrade the system you bought in the
> beginning to a better one (unless it's audi). And the better ones have
> the larger displays. So all in all it might be a bit hard to change
> anything there. Better buy everything right from the start.
>
> The salesman also told me that the MMI electronics is fully integrated
> into the cars electronics so messing around with it could mean messing
> around with drive electronics et all. Not somehting one wants to do
> lightheartedly.
>
> But I'm sure the aftermarket industry will have their own developments
> out soon
>
> The Cruise Control is still on a (now separate) stick behind the
> steering wheel. I.e. not on the wheel as with the BMW's. I regret
> that, but test driving the A4 I got used to it fairly quickly.
>
> All in all I must say I liked the interior and the feeling of room,
> yet at the same time of close surrounding like a glove. Hard to
> describe.
>
> I could not drive the car (the test cars will be available beginning
> of may) but I definitley plan to.
>
> Oh and the Avant will be released by spring next year. By end of this
> year the car will see a third diesel engine with 2.7 liters and 177
> HP.
>
> Regards
>
> Wolfgang
> --
> * Audi A6 Avant TDI *
> * reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
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Re: The new A6, the realtime impressions
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 13:04:59 -0400, "Saintor"
<saintor1@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>I have no serious problem with the new exterior (even if the rear looks a
>lot like a Saturn LS), but I am appalled by the pictures of the new
>dashboard.
Hmm.. Honestly, looking at it, it did not bring up any bad
impressions. It's split left and right of the central info display but
that's nothing I would consider ugly.
But as always, tastes do differ.
YMMV
Wolfgang
<saintor1@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>I have no serious problem with the new exterior (even if the rear looks a
>lot like a Saturn LS), but I am appalled by the pictures of the new
>dashboard.
Hmm.. Honestly, looking at it, it did not bring up any bad
impressions. It's split left and right of the central info display but
that's nothing I would consider ugly.
But as always, tastes do differ.
YMMV
Wolfgang
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Re: The new A6, the realtime impressions
> Wolfgang
> --
> * Audi A6 Avant TDI *
> * reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
Just curious - which model A6 Avant TDI have you got? I've got an old shape
5-cylinder 140bhp one and I love it to bits.
Peter
> --
> * Audi A6 Avant TDI *
> * reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
Just curious - which model A6 Avant TDI have you got? I've got an old shape
5-cylinder 140bhp one and I love it to bits.
Peter
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Re: The new A6, the realtime impressions
Wolfgang Pawlinetz wrote:
> Hmm.. Honestly, looking at it, it did not bring up any bad
> impressions. It's split left and right of the central info display but
> that's nothing I would consider ugly.
I don't like the interiour either, not because it's bad, but because it
looks old. It's almost a copy from BMW's old-3-series dashboard, same
kind of alignment and almost same kind of curves, just bit more polished
wood.
I've seen it, it might have looked nice 1995, but it looks old and dum
now. I like a lot more the way Audi has it in old-A6, A4, new-A3. No
splitting.
And what's with that wheel? That's the ugliest I've ever seen. If they
couldn't come up with a nice good design, then they could have just used
the old one, it looks more elegant.
- Yak
> Hmm.. Honestly, looking at it, it did not bring up any bad
> impressions. It's split left and right of the central info display but
> that's nothing I would consider ugly.
I don't like the interiour either, not because it's bad, but because it
looks old. It's almost a copy from BMW's old-3-series dashboard, same
kind of alignment and almost same kind of curves, just bit more polished
wood.
I've seen it, it might have looked nice 1995, but it looks old and dum
now. I like a lot more the way Audi has it in old-A6, A4, new-A3. No
splitting.
And what's with that wheel? That's the ugliest I've ever seen. If they
couldn't come up with a nice good design, then they could have just used
the old one, it looks more elegant.
- Yak
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Re: The new A6, the realtime impressions
On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:11:27 +0100, "AstraVanMan"
<Off@WithThanks.com> wrote:
>Just curious - which model A6 Avant TDI have you got?
The 150 HP V6 1999.
>I've got an old shape
>5-cylinder 140bhp one and I love it to bits.
I can imagine. That one has the nicest dash ever (with the long sweep
to the right) and the 5 cylinder is super quiet.
Good car. Stick with it
>Peter
Regards
Wolfgang
--
* Audi A6 Avant TDI *
* reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
<Off@WithThanks.com> wrote:
>Just curious - which model A6 Avant TDI have you got?
The 150 HP V6 1999.
>I've got an old shape
>5-cylinder 140bhp one and I love it to bits.
I can imagine. That one has the nicest dash ever (with the long sweep
to the right) and the 5 cylinder is super quiet.
Good car. Stick with it
>Peter
Regards
Wolfgang
--
* Audi A6 Avant TDI *
* reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
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Re: The new A6, the realtime impressions
On 25 Apr 2004 23:24:30 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:
>>Just curious - which model A6 Avant TDI have you got? I've got an old shape
>>5-cylinder 140bhp one and I love it to bits.
>
>There was a 5-cylinder TDi A6 in Europe?
Yes. A 140 HP diesel engine with 5 cylinder. IMO the best diesel at
that time. Far superior to the BMW's 524.
It was later used in Volvos for a certain time.(if I'm not totally
wrong).
Very quiet engine, smooth, strong. Had some oil leaks but that was
something known and could be maintained properly.
Regards
Wolfgang
--
* Audi A6 Avant TDI *
* reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *
>>Just curious - which model A6 Avant TDI have you got? I've got an old shape
>>5-cylinder 140bhp one and I love it to bits.
>
>There was a 5-cylinder TDi A6 in Europe?
Yes. A 140 HP diesel engine with 5 cylinder. IMO the best diesel at
that time. Far superior to the BMW's 524.
It was later used in Volvos for a certain time.(if I'm not totally
wrong).
Very quiet engine, smooth, strong. Had some oil leaks but that was
something known and could be maintained properly.
Regards
Wolfgang
--
* Audi A6 Avant TDI *
* reply to wolfgang dot pawlinetz at chello dot at *