Need feedback on purchase plans
10-07-2003, 11:23 PM
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Need feedback on purchase plans
We currently have a '91 Audi 200 and plan on purchasing a new car tomorrow.
I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a used
2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
We have loved our '91 Audi since the day we first drove it - and still love
it - but it's come to a point that it seems to be more expensive to maintain
it than to buy a new one. I'm looking at the Honda's so I can be relieved
for a few years of high maintenance costs. I want my wife to drive a
reliable low operating expense car for a few years.
But... There's just something about the Audi's that is in our blood.
So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over a
used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
I'm all ears.
I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a used
2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
We have loved our '91 Audi since the day we first drove it - and still love
it - but it's come to a point that it seems to be more expensive to maintain
it than to buy a new one. I'm looking at the Honda's so I can be relieved
for a few years of high maintenance costs. I want my wife to drive a
reliable low operating expense car for a few years.
But... There's just something about the Audi's that is in our blood.
So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over a
used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
I'm all ears.
10-07-2003, 11:30 PM
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Re: Need feedback on purchase plans
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:23:03 -0700, "CadFactor" <cadfactor@tv.com> wrote:
>We currently have a '91 Audi 200 and plan on purchasing a new car tomorrow.
>I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a used
>2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
>
>We have loved our '91 Audi since the day we first drove it - and still love
>it - but it's come to a point that it seems to be more expensive to maintain
>it than to buy a new one. I'm looking at the Honda's so I can be relieved
>for a few years of high maintenance costs. I want my wife to drive a
>reliable low operating expense car for a few years.
>
>But... There's just something about the Audi's that is in our blood.
>
>So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over a
>used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
>
>I'm all ears.
Does Audi have a CPO program? Perhaps you can snag a certified/previously
owned A6 with a couple of years of fault coverage from a dealer?
>We currently have a '91 Audi 200 and plan on purchasing a new car tomorrow.
>I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a used
>2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
>
>We have loved our '91 Audi since the day we first drove it - and still love
>it - but it's come to a point that it seems to be more expensive to maintain
>it than to buy a new one. I'm looking at the Honda's so I can be relieved
>for a few years of high maintenance costs. I want my wife to drive a
>reliable low operating expense car for a few years.
>
>But... There's just something about the Audi's that is in our blood.
>
>So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over a
>used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
>
>I'm all ears.
Does Audi have a CPO program? Perhaps you can snag a certified/previously
owned A6 with a couple of years of fault coverage from a dealer?
10-08-2003, 12:07 AM
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Re: Need feedback on purchase plans
Yes, there are certified cars and yes they will come with the remainder of
the factory warranty. This is in the plan if I go with the Audi.
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Does Audi have a CPO program? Perhaps you can snag a certified/previously
| owned A6 with a couple of years of fault coverage from a dealer?
the factory warranty. This is in the plan if I go with the Audi.
"daytripper" <day_trippr@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Does Audi have a CPO program? Perhaps you can snag a certified/previously
| owned A6 with a couple of years of fault coverage from a dealer?
10-08-2003, 12:28 AM
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Re: Need feedback on purchase plans
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:23:03 -0700, "CadFactor" <cadfactor@tv.com>
wrote:
>So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over a
>used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
Have you or your wife actually driven a Honda yet?
Don't get me wrong, they're good cars, reliable as hell. I've always
had Japanese cars, and I have yet to be unhappy with one. Still, it's
a whole different experience.
Before we bought our A4, my wife was driving an inherited Buick. It
was the only car she'd ever had, and had driven it all through
college. When we started looking at cars, we looked at Hondas,
because she had always wanted one.
(well, that was her second choice, actually. She wanted a Saturn, but
I have a strict "no GM products" policy. It's in the prenup.
Anyway...)
When she actually drove a Civic, she couldn't stand it. It was "too
light", in her words. She didn't like the way it felt on the road.
She drove a different model, and had pretty much the same opinion.
Coming from that big ol' Buick, she felt more comfortable in a car
that felt more substantial. We looked at VWs first, but we couldn't
find a Jetta VR6 automatic. After bouncing around for awhile, she
took an Audi for a ride. We bought it the next day.
So, in case you haven't done it yet, actually driving a Honda is the
first thing that you should do. It might change your mind about what
you're looking for.
The Nissan sedans I've been in seem to ride pretty nicely, and they're
(generally speaking) reliable. If you rule out the Honda but still
want to look at other options, check one of them out.
wrote:
>So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over a
>used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
Have you or your wife actually driven a Honda yet?
Don't get me wrong, they're good cars, reliable as hell. I've always
had Japanese cars, and I have yet to be unhappy with one. Still, it's
a whole different experience.
Before we bought our A4, my wife was driving an inherited Buick. It
was the only car she'd ever had, and had driven it all through
college. When we started looking at cars, we looked at Hondas,
because she had always wanted one.
(well, that was her second choice, actually. She wanted a Saturn, but
I have a strict "no GM products" policy. It's in the prenup.
Anyway...)
When she actually drove a Civic, she couldn't stand it. It was "too
light", in her words. She didn't like the way it felt on the road.
She drove a different model, and had pretty much the same opinion.
Coming from that big ol' Buick, she felt more comfortable in a car
that felt more substantial. We looked at VWs first, but we couldn't
find a Jetta VR6 automatic. After bouncing around for awhile, she
took an Audi for a ride. We bought it the next day.
So, in case you haven't done it yet, actually driving a Honda is the
first thing that you should do. It might change your mind about what
you're looking for.
The Nissan sedans I've been in seem to ride pretty nicely, and they're
(generally speaking) reliable. If you rule out the Honda but still
want to look at other options, check one of them out.
10-08-2003, 04:31 AM
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Re: Need feedback on purchase plans
"CadFactor" <cadfactor@tv.com> wrote in message
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> We currently have a '91 Audi 200 and plan on purchasing a new car
tomorrow.
> I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a
used
> 2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
>
> We have loved our '91 Audi since the day we first drove it - and still
love
> it - but it's come to a point that it seems to be more expensive to
maintain
> it than to buy a new one. I'm looking at the Honda's so I can be relieved
> for a few years of high maintenance costs. I want my wife to drive a
> reliable low operating expense car for a few years.
>
> But... There's just something about the Audi's that is in our blood.
>
> So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over
a
> used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
>
> I'm all ears.
>
>
You have already answered your own question, once an Audi Driver always an
Audi driver, you will always be saying to yourself " I wonder what the A6
would have been like"
Do the right thing
Ron
10-08-2003, 08:49 AM
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Pronto - you're a smart guy.
Yes, I wrote this request after coming home from our test drive. Logically,
I was all set to go for the Honda - Cost, Style, Interior finish (prior to
this had only seen them at an auto show). The test drive went fine. I'm
sure we can be "satisfied" with the Honda's ride for a few years until the
economy recovers fully. The 3.0 V6 isn't sluggish, but it sure isn't a
Turbo like the 200 we have. It seems to be about 1/2 the weight of our
current Audi - but that's not completely bad - is it?
When we bought our '91 Audi, it was similar to your experience. We were all
set to buy a Lexus. Drove the Audi and fell in love with the handling. We
are going to go look at the A6's this morning - I suspect we'll be hooked by
it also.
The reason I plan on buying a car TODAY is that my wife needs to drive on
Friday to pick up our daughter from school for her birthday this weekend -
then drive her back to school on Sunday. The 200 is simply making me
nervous to send the wife on a long drive like this twice in the weekend.
(She doesn't like driving my Suburban or else I would send her in that).
I think maybe I should delay this a week or so and rent an Accord for the
weekend trip? Yeah, that aught to do it.
"Pronto Breakneck" <no_address@example.com> wrote in message
news:uc77ov82elvj1usdh189pkjit1tbmnqp1e@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:23:03 -0700, "CadFactor" <cadfactor@tv.com>
| wrote:
| >So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda
over a
| >used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
|
| Have you or your wife actually driven a Honda yet?
|
| Don't get me wrong, they're good cars, reliable as hell. I've always
| had Japanese cars, and I have yet to be unhappy with one. Still, it's
| a whole different experience.
|
| Before we bought our A4, my wife was driving an inherited Buick. It
| was the only car she'd ever had, and had driven it all through
| college. When we started looking at cars, we looked at Hondas,
| because she had always wanted one.
|
| (well, that was her second choice, actually. She wanted a Saturn, but
| I have a strict "no GM products" policy. It's in the prenup.
| Anyway...)
|
| When she actually drove a Civic, she couldn't stand it. It was "too
| light", in her words. She didn't like the way it felt on the road.
| She drove a different model, and had pretty much the same opinion.
|
| Coming from that big ol' Buick, she felt more comfortable in a car
| that felt more substantial. We looked at VWs first, but we couldn't
| find a Jetta VR6 automatic. After bouncing around for awhile, she
| took an Audi for a ride. We bought it the next day.
|
| So, in case you haven't done it yet, actually driving a Honda is the
| first thing that you should do. It might change your mind about what
| you're looking for.
|
| The Nissan sedans I've been in seem to ride pretty nicely, and they're
| (generally speaking) reliable. If you rule out the Honda but still
| want to look at other options, check one of them out.
|
|
Yes, I wrote this request after coming home from our test drive. Logically,
I was all set to go for the Honda - Cost, Style, Interior finish (prior to
this had only seen them at an auto show). The test drive went fine. I'm
sure we can be "satisfied" with the Honda's ride for a few years until the
economy recovers fully. The 3.0 V6 isn't sluggish, but it sure isn't a
Turbo like the 200 we have. It seems to be about 1/2 the weight of our
current Audi - but that's not completely bad - is it?
When we bought our '91 Audi, it was similar to your experience. We were all
set to buy a Lexus. Drove the Audi and fell in love with the handling. We
are going to go look at the A6's this morning - I suspect we'll be hooked by
it also.
The reason I plan on buying a car TODAY is that my wife needs to drive on
Friday to pick up our daughter from school for her birthday this weekend -
then drive her back to school on Sunday. The 200 is simply making me
nervous to send the wife on a long drive like this twice in the weekend.
(She doesn't like driving my Suburban or else I would send her in that).
I think maybe I should delay this a week or so and rent an Accord for the
weekend trip? Yeah, that aught to do it.
"Pronto Breakneck" <no_address@example.com> wrote in message
news:uc77ov82elvj1usdh189pkjit1tbmnqp1e@4ax.com...
| On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:23:03 -0700, "CadFactor" <cadfactor@tv.com>
| wrote:
| >So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda
over a
| >used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
|
| Have you or your wife actually driven a Honda yet?
|
| Don't get me wrong, they're good cars, reliable as hell. I've always
| had Japanese cars, and I have yet to be unhappy with one. Still, it's
| a whole different experience.
|
| Before we bought our A4, my wife was driving an inherited Buick. It
| was the only car she'd ever had, and had driven it all through
| college. When we started looking at cars, we looked at Hondas,
| because she had always wanted one.
|
| (well, that was her second choice, actually. She wanted a Saturn, but
| I have a strict "no GM products" policy. It's in the prenup.
| Anyway...)
|
| When she actually drove a Civic, she couldn't stand it. It was "too
| light", in her words. She didn't like the way it felt on the road.
| She drove a different model, and had pretty much the same opinion.
|
| Coming from that big ol' Buick, she felt more comfortable in a car
| that felt more substantial. We looked at VWs first, but we couldn't
| find a Jetta VR6 automatic. After bouncing around for awhile, she
| took an Audi for a ride. We bought it the next day.
|
| So, in case you haven't done it yet, actually driving a Honda is the
| first thing that you should do. It might change your mind about what
| you're looking for.
|
| The Nissan sedans I've been in seem to ride pretty nicely, and they're
| (generally speaking) reliable. If you rule out the Honda but still
| want to look at other options, check one of them out.
|
|
10-08-2003, 08:53 AM
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"Ronny" <Ron@ron.com> wrote in message news:bm0lls$4v2$1|
| You have already answered your own question, once an Audi Driver always an
| Audi driver, you will always be saying to yourself " I wonder what the A6
| would have been like"
|
| Do the right thing
|
| Ron
|
Grrrrrr. Reliability - repair costs - reliability...
Logic vs emotion.... why can't they go hand in hand?
No feedback on reliability for the A6 guys? Please convince me that they
are more reliable than in the early 90's.
10-08-2003, 11:26 AM
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"CadFactor" <cadfactor@tv.com> wrote in message news:<vo748ujubhqtc5@corp.supernews.com>...
> We currently have a '91 Audi 200 and plan on purchasing a new car tomorrow.
> I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a used
> 2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
>
> We have loved our '91 Audi since the day we first drove it - and still love
> it - but it's come to a point that it seems to be more expensive to maintain
> it than to buy a new one. I'm looking at the Honda's so I can be relieved
> for a few years of high maintenance costs. I want my wife to drive a
> reliable low operating expense car for a few years.
>
> But... There's just something about the Audi's that is in our blood.
>
> So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over a
> used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
>
> I'm all ears.
If reliability is your #1 concern, take the Honda.
Myself? I can't stand Hondas. They suck in every imaginable way
EXCEPT cost of ownership. Life is too short to drive a car you hate.
Get a good example of the A6, with all the maintenance/repair records.
If it means that much to you, buy an extended warranty (even though
they often don't return the money spent on them) for peace-of-mind.
Drive it until the little niggles show up, then sell. Rinse, lather,
repeat.
Spider
> We currently have a '91 Audi 200 and plan on purchasing a new car tomorrow.
> I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a used
> 2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
>
> We have loved our '91 Audi since the day we first drove it - and still love
> it - but it's come to a point that it seems to be more expensive to maintain
> it than to buy a new one. I'm looking at the Honda's so I can be relieved
> for a few years of high maintenance costs. I want my wife to drive a
> reliable low operating expense car for a few years.
>
> But... There's just something about the Audi's that is in our blood.
>
> So, tell me your thoughts. Am I foolish to be looking at a new Honda over a
> used A6? Will we always regret not going for the A6?
>
> I'm all ears.
If reliability is your #1 concern, take the Honda.
Myself? I can't stand Hondas. They suck in every imaginable way
EXCEPT cost of ownership. Life is too short to drive a car you hate.
Get a good example of the A6, with all the maintenance/repair records.
If it means that much to you, buy an extended warranty (even though
they often don't return the money spent on them) for peace-of-mind.
Drive it until the little niggles show up, then sell. Rinse, lather,
repeat.
Spider
10-08-2003, 05:10 PM
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On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:23:03 -0700, "CadFactor" <cadfactor@tv.com>
wrote:
>We currently have a '91 Audi 200 and plan on purchasing a new car tomorrow.
>I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a used
>2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
>
I have been a Honda driver (actually Honda/Acura) since 1988 and in
2001, I traded and got a new A4.
Compared to my previous Honda products, I just love the Quattro.
I know this doesn't answer your reliability question. Not that they
are the end-all, but, Consumer Reports gives the 2001 a "check" for
reliability. But, the 1999's got bad marks for electrical, power
equipment, and fuel.
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wrote:
>We currently have a '91 Audi 200 and plan on purchasing a new car tomorrow.
>I'm torn between a new 2004 Accord - or - for roughly the same price a used
>2001'ish A6 2.8Q.
>
I have been a Honda driver (actually Honda/Acura) since 1988 and in
2001, I traded and got a new A4.
Compared to my previous Honda products, I just love the Quattro.
I know this doesn't answer your reliability question. Not that they
are the end-all, but, Consumer Reports gives the 2001 a "check" for
reliability. But, the 1999's got bad marks for electrical, power
equipment, and fuel.
-
--
Curtis Newton
cnewton@remove-me.akaMail.com
http://surf.to/cnewton
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ICQ: 4899169
10-09-2003, 04:49 AM
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"CadFactor" <cadfactor@tv.com> wrote in message
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> Grrrrrr. Reliability - repair costs - reliability...
>
> Logic vs emotion.... why can't they go hand in hand?
>
> No feedback on reliability for the A6 guys? Please convince me that they
> are more reliable than in the early 90's.
>
I purchased my 2000 A6 2.7T used with a CPO warranty. The extended warranty
has paid for itself and I still have18 months to go on it. That siad, 2000
was the first year for the 2.7T and the reliability ratings on it are not as
good as later years.
As far as reliability of modern Audis over 90s Audis I can't comment from
personal experience. I will not think twice before buying my second Audi. I
am firmly convinced they are the among the safest, sportiest, best styled
cars on the road today. I can't wait until my wife tells me she is done with
her 1999 Accord so we can get her in an A4 Avant. A few months ago we test
drove cars for her including the Accord V6, Passat wagon, A4 Avant 1.8T and
Volvo S60. I know the prices are all over the map but the one she liked
least was the Accord - too much road noise and bad material quality to even
be in tha same league with the VW! She liked the A4 hands down over the
rest. To this day she insists she is not a discerning car buyer and insists
that all cars are just basic transportation. Yet, she wants an Audi and not
another Accord.
So, is an Audi as reliable as a Honda? I believe the consensus here is no.
Is Audi reliability improving? I believe the reality is generally yes but
there are still problems out there. Is the driving experience of an Audi
worth the problems? For me, yes. For you?????
Enjoy your purchase.
Aar
news:vo85lvlb8mjk86@corp.supernews.com...
> Grrrrrr. Reliability - repair costs - reliability...
>
> Logic vs emotion.... why can't they go hand in hand?
>
> No feedback on reliability for the A6 guys? Please convince me that they
> are more reliable than in the early 90's.
>
I purchased my 2000 A6 2.7T used with a CPO warranty. The extended warranty
has paid for itself and I still have18 months to go on it. That siad, 2000
was the first year for the 2.7T and the reliability ratings on it are not as
good as later years.
As far as reliability of modern Audis over 90s Audis I can't comment from
personal experience. I will not think twice before buying my second Audi. I
am firmly convinced they are the among the safest, sportiest, best styled
cars on the road today. I can't wait until my wife tells me she is done with
her 1999 Accord so we can get her in an A4 Avant. A few months ago we test
drove cars for her including the Accord V6, Passat wagon, A4 Avant 1.8T and
Volvo S60. I know the prices are all over the map but the one she liked
least was the Accord - too much road noise and bad material quality to even
be in tha same league with the VW! She liked the A4 hands down over the
rest. To this day she insists she is not a discerning car buyer and insists
that all cars are just basic transportation. Yet, she wants an Audi and not
another Accord.
So, is an Audi as reliable as a Honda? I believe the consensus here is no.
Is Audi reliability improving? I believe the reality is generally yes but
there are still problems out there. Is the driving experience of an Audi
worth the problems? For me, yes. For you?????
Enjoy your purchase.
Aar
