Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
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Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote:
> On every car (err ... both) that I've done any cluster
> repair work on, the hardest part has been to remove the
> cluster in a manner that allows replacement after effecting
> the repair!
Shouldn't be a problem with an Audi - I can take the cluster out of my
RS6 and put it back again in less than ten minutes. Unclip one cover
plate, remove two screws, withdraw cluster, unplug three connectors. As
a Haynes manual would say, 'Refitting is a reversal of the removal
procedure'.
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Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote:
> On every car (err ... both) that I've done any cluster
> repair work on, the hardest part has been to remove the
> cluster in a manner that allows replacement after effecting
> the repair!
Shouldn't be a problem with an Audi - I can take the cluster out of my
RS6 and put it back again in less than ten minutes. Unclip one cover
plate, remove two screws, withdraw cluster, unplug three connectors. As
a Haynes manual would say, 'Refitting is a reversal of the removal
procedure'.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
#52
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
In message <429512EE.4000409@iee.org>
Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote:
> On every car (err ... both) that I've done any cluster
> repair work on, the hardest part has been to remove the
> cluster in a manner that allows replacement after effecting
> the repair!
Shouldn't be a problem with an Audi - I can take the cluster out of my
RS6 and put it back again in less than ten minutes. Unclip one cover
plate, remove two screws, withdraw cluster, unplug three connectors. As
a Haynes manual would say, 'Refitting is a reversal of the removal
procedure'.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote:
> On every car (err ... both) that I've done any cluster
> repair work on, the hardest part has been to remove the
> cluster in a manner that allows replacement after effecting
> the repair!
Shouldn't be a problem with an Audi - I can take the cluster out of my
RS6 and put it back again in less than ten minutes. Unclip one cover
plate, remove two screws, withdraw cluster, unplug three connectors. As
a Haynes manual would say, 'Refitting is a reversal of the removal
procedure'.
--
Peter Bell (Note Spamtrap - To reply, replace 'invalid' with 'bellfamily')
#53
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
"Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote in message
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> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
> the odometer stopped being visible.
I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it up
I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on one
layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did find
one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is against
AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli) an Italian
company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
DT
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> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
> the odometer stopped being visible.
I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it up
I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on one
layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did find
one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is against
AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli) an Italian
company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
DT
#54
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
"Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote in message
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> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
> the odometer stopped being visible.
I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it up
I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on one
layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did find
one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is against
AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli) an Italian
company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
DT
news:429512EE.4000409@iee.org...
> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
> the odometer stopped being visible.
I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it up
I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on one
layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did find
one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is against
AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli) an Italian
company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
DT
#55
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
"Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote in message
news:429512EE.4000409@iee.org...
> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
> the odometer stopped being visible.
I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it up
I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on one
layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did find
one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is against
AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli) an Italian
company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
DT
news:429512EE.4000409@iee.org...
> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
> the odometer stopped being visible.
I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it up
I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on one
layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did find
one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is against
AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli) an Italian
company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
DT
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
"Grimly Curmudgeon" <grimlycurmudgeon683@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Don Turner"
> <leavemealone@nospam.com> saying something like:
Barstow is _not_ the edge of the desert!!
BTW, Antarctica is a desert, believe it or not.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...4658.Es.r.html
[snip]
> --
>
> Dave
> SE6a
#57
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
"Grimly Curmudgeon" <grimlycurmudgeon683@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Don Turner"
> <leavemealone@nospam.com> saying something like:
Barstow is _not_ the edge of the desert!!
BTW, Antarctica is a desert, believe it or not.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...4658.Es.r.html
[snip]
> --
>
> Dave
> SE6a
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
"Grimly Curmudgeon" <grimlycurmudgeon683@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7c4a91la8bpmo8h8gosli31jq1dhao1nlo@4ax.com...
> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Don Turner"
> <leavemealone@nospam.com> saying something like:
Barstow is _not_ the edge of the desert!!
BTW, Antarctica is a desert, believe it or not.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...4658.Es.r.html
[snip]
> --
>
> Dave
> SE6a
#59
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
That's typical of modern dealers. They should be called module replacers or
something. They can't repair anything and have no understanding of there own
product.
SFC
"Don Turner" <leavemealone@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
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> "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote in message
> news:429512EE.4000409@iee.org...
>
>> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
>> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
>> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
>> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
>> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
>> the odometer stopped being visible.
>
> I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it
> up I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on
> one layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
>
> As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
> snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
> they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did
> find one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is
> against AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli)
> an Italian company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
>
> DT
>
>
>
something. They can't repair anything and have no understanding of there own
product.
SFC
"Don Turner" <leavemealone@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:42962285$0$24496$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote in message
> news:429512EE.4000409@iee.org...
>
>> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
>> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
>> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
>> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
>> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
>> the odometer stopped being visible.
>
> I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it
> up I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on
> one layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
>
> As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
> snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
> they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did
> find one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is
> against AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli)
> an Italian company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
>
> DT
>
>
>
#60
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Re: Instrument cluster repairs (UK)
That's typical of modern dealers. They should be called module replacers or
something. They can't repair anything and have no understanding of there own
product.
SFC
"Don Turner" <leavemealone@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:42962285$0$24496$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote in message
> news:429512EE.4000409@iee.org...
>
>> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
>> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
>> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
>> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
>> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
>> the odometer stopped being visible.
>
> I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it
> up I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on
> one layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
>
> As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
> snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
> they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did
> find one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is
> against AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli)
> an Italian company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
>
> DT
>
>
>
something. They can't repair anything and have no understanding of there own
product.
SFC
"Don Turner" <leavemealone@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:42962285$0$24496$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> "Antonio Carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> wrote in message
> news:429512EE.4000409@iee.org...
>
>> I would think that getting the cluster out, playing
>> with it on the bench and putting it back would be a
>> good couple of hours work. So you will not see much
>> change out of £100. Even on my Vectra the dealer
>> wanted something near that (including VAT) when
>> the odometer stopped being visible.
>
> I can get the cluster quite easily.. and I have. However when I open it
> up I am faced with literally hundreds of solder joints and that is just on
> one layer. There are 2 circuit boards stacked one a-top the other ;-(.
>
> As for Audi dealers, they are renowned for their unhelpfulness and
> snottiness. I called up to enquire about a repair.. the response is that
> they only replace (£800 + VAT and fitting/coding). Furthermore if I did
> find one in a scrappie they would not code it to my car because that is
> against AUDI UK policy. The cluster is made by Jaeger (Magnetti Marelli)
> an Italian company so I contacted their technical dept and so far zilch..
>
> DT
>
>
>