Infinity G35 v BMW 330 i/xi v Audi A4 v ? Passat
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"cp" wrote
> You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
> autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
thing.
Cheers,
Pete
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Re: Infinity G35 v BMW 330 i/xi v Audi A4 v ? Passat
"cp" wrote
> You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
> autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
thing.
Cheers,
Pete
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Re: Infinity G35 v BMW 330 i/xi v Audi A4 v ? Passat
"cp" wrote
> You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
> autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
thing.
Cheers,
Pete
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Pete wrote:
> "cp" wrote
>
>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
>>autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
>
>
> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
> thing.
Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
--
Mike Smith
> "cp" wrote
>
>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
>>autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
>
>
> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
> thing.
Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
--
Mike Smith
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Pete wrote:
> "cp" wrote
>
>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
>>autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
>
>
> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
> thing.
Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
--
Mike Smith
> "cp" wrote
>
>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
>>autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
>
>
> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
> thing.
Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
--
Mike Smith
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Pete wrote:
> "cp" wrote
>
>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
>>autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
>
>
> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
> thing.
Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
--
Mike Smith
> "cp" wrote
>
>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal
>>autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their power?
>
>
> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of
> thing.
Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
--
Mike Smith
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Re: Infinity G35 v BMW 330 i/xi v Audi A4 v ? Passat
>> "cp" wrote
>>
>>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their
>>>power?
>>
>>
>> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of thing.
>
> Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
Real driving is 160mph on the Autobahn for an hour or two.
>>
>>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their
>>>power?
>>
>>
>> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of thing.
>
> Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
Real driving is 160mph on the Autobahn for an hour or two.
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>> "cp" wrote
>>
>>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their
>>>power?
>>
>>
>> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of thing.
>
> Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
Real driving is 160mph on the Autobahn for an hour or two.
>>
>>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their
>>>power?
>>
>>
>> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of thing.
>
> Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
Real driving is 160mph on the Autobahn for an hour or two.
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>> "cp" wrote
>>
>>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their
>>>power?
>>
>>
>> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of thing.
>
> Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
Real driving is 160mph on the Autobahn for an hour or two.
>>
>>>You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their
>>>power?
>>
>>
>> Well, there are quite a few race tracks around, if he's into this kind of thing.
>
> Indeed - there's one between every pair of stoplights. (Just kidding.)
Real driving is 160mph on the Autobahn for an hour or two.
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Re: Infinity G35 v BMW 330 i/xi v Audi A4 v ? Passat
Power is not the same as top end...
cp wrote:
> You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their
> power? Audi 3.0 and the G35 underpowered? That's some funny ideas coming from a country with a 65mph speed limit and jail for those
> caught at over 100mph.
>
> cp
>
> <rabarrett@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1106428634.325862.127920@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I'm trying to decide among these cars. Any help will be appreciated.
>>Below are my thoughts so far (after test driving all three at least
>>twice). Any other cards I should consider?
>>
>>All three I'm only considering only in manual transmission.
>>
>>(1) I really like the power and tight suspension of the G35, but
>>dislike it's fit and finish (looks cheap, buttons and ***** are a
>>little tacky, and the headliner is the same cheap one as the one on my
>>Grand Am rental). Also, the stereo isn't good either, I'm not
>>impressed with the "Bose" system, and I'm not sure if I could easily
>>replace it without the interior looking even worse, speakers fitting
>>poorly or some other problem. When you turn it up (and I don't mean so
>>that you can't hear people talk) it starts to sound bad (noticeable
>>distortion) quickly.
>>
>>(2) The Audi 3.0 Quatro seems like a nice compromise. I give up a
>>significant bit of power and some of the tight suspension (even on the
>>sports package), but the fit and finish is the best of the three, the
>>stereo is really good, and I gain the all-wheel drive. It feels solid,
>>it sounds good, it drives really well, and I'd feel really safe in it.
>>I'm upset it doesn't have a real NAV system yet.
>>
>>(3) So far I've only test driven the xi (see note below). I expected
>>to be impressed and I was really disappointed (as compared to the
>>Infinity). The BMI is also pricey, but maybe I'll decide it's worth
>>it. I don't want to actually pay much over $35k (after dealing), but
>>then the i will be cheaper than the xi anyway, if I decide to go with
>>it. Still, it appears they're becoming hard to find (they've stopped
>>making them and the next ones come out May-July). I'm still not sure
>>why people say that the 330 ride (well, I'm actually still thinking of
>>the xi ride, since I haven't driven an i yet) is better than the G35
>>because it seems softer. It definitely rocks more on turns and if you
>>just jerk the car to the left and right quickly. The steering also
>>isn't as tight as the G35. I wonder if people just like a softer ride
>>than I do. It would be helpful to hear someone even just say, "Yeah,
>>you seem to like a tighter ride than I do. I like the luxuary ride v.
>>sports ride balance of the 330, but I realize I don't feel the road as
>>much as in a G35." I like to feel the road because it gives me
>>confidence I know just how the car is reacting to the road. I also
>>like good feedback in the steering wheel. I also like a little more
>>power than the 330 has.
>>
>>One further complication--NAV:
>>I also would really like a factory navagation system. Audi won't have
>>one until May (I'd consider waiting, but my last car was totalled--not
>>my fault--and I don't know of a good short-term solution to just
>>renting a car each week. Anyone know of a good way to rent a car for 5
>>months?).
>>I haven't seen BMW's NAV system yet, but I fear that will make it even
>>harder to find a 330.
>>Infinity already has a reasonably nice NAV system.
>>(Note: I really liked the Acura TL's NAV system, but the ride is way
>>too soft for my taste.)
>>
>>My dream would be the G35 engine and feel with Audi fit and finish with
>>the Acura NAV system.
>>
>>I wondered if there might be a difference between the xi and i on
>>handling. The Audi salesman I spoke with seemed very knowledgeable and
>>was willing to discuss my understanding of the 330xi versus the G35
>>(and didn't even seem to mind we weren't talking about the Audi and
>>that I might have written it off). He said he thought the xi might
>>drive differently and suggested I drive an i. When I mentioned it to
>>the BMW dealer over the phone, he told me point blank that I was wrong,
>>that he knows the cars very well and they drive exactly the same. I'll
>>have to drive one.
>>
>>My last car was also a VW Passat V6. I loved it,
>>but missed having more power. It was a nice combo of great road feel,
>>excellent interior, and good power. I wish they made it with a
>>tighter suspension (so it didn't rock so much on turns) and a more
>>powerful engine (or even just turbo).
>>
>>Thanks for your advice,
>>
>>Rick
>>
>
>
>
cp wrote:
> You mention power a lot; assuming you're in the US, do you have a personal autobahn that you can take these cars on and use their
> power? Audi 3.0 and the G35 underpowered? That's some funny ideas coming from a country with a 65mph speed limit and jail for those
> caught at over 100mph.
>
> cp
>
> <rabarrett@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1106428634.325862.127920@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>I'm trying to decide among these cars. Any help will be appreciated.
>>Below are my thoughts so far (after test driving all three at least
>>twice). Any other cards I should consider?
>>
>>All three I'm only considering only in manual transmission.
>>
>>(1) I really like the power and tight suspension of the G35, but
>>dislike it's fit and finish (looks cheap, buttons and ***** are a
>>little tacky, and the headliner is the same cheap one as the one on my
>>Grand Am rental). Also, the stereo isn't good either, I'm not
>>impressed with the "Bose" system, and I'm not sure if I could easily
>>replace it without the interior looking even worse, speakers fitting
>>poorly or some other problem. When you turn it up (and I don't mean so
>>that you can't hear people talk) it starts to sound bad (noticeable
>>distortion) quickly.
>>
>>(2) The Audi 3.0 Quatro seems like a nice compromise. I give up a
>>significant bit of power and some of the tight suspension (even on the
>>sports package), but the fit and finish is the best of the three, the
>>stereo is really good, and I gain the all-wheel drive. It feels solid,
>>it sounds good, it drives really well, and I'd feel really safe in it.
>>I'm upset it doesn't have a real NAV system yet.
>>
>>(3) So far I've only test driven the xi (see note below). I expected
>>to be impressed and I was really disappointed (as compared to the
>>Infinity). The BMI is also pricey, but maybe I'll decide it's worth
>>it. I don't want to actually pay much over $35k (after dealing), but
>>then the i will be cheaper than the xi anyway, if I decide to go with
>>it. Still, it appears they're becoming hard to find (they've stopped
>>making them and the next ones come out May-July). I'm still not sure
>>why people say that the 330 ride (well, I'm actually still thinking of
>>the xi ride, since I haven't driven an i yet) is better than the G35
>>because it seems softer. It definitely rocks more on turns and if you
>>just jerk the car to the left and right quickly. The steering also
>>isn't as tight as the G35. I wonder if people just like a softer ride
>>than I do. It would be helpful to hear someone even just say, "Yeah,
>>you seem to like a tighter ride than I do. I like the luxuary ride v.
>>sports ride balance of the 330, but I realize I don't feel the road as
>>much as in a G35." I like to feel the road because it gives me
>>confidence I know just how the car is reacting to the road. I also
>>like good feedback in the steering wheel. I also like a little more
>>power than the 330 has.
>>
>>One further complication--NAV:
>>I also would really like a factory navagation system. Audi won't have
>>one until May (I'd consider waiting, but my last car was totalled--not
>>my fault--and I don't know of a good short-term solution to just
>>renting a car each week. Anyone know of a good way to rent a car for 5
>>months?).
>>I haven't seen BMW's NAV system yet, but I fear that will make it even
>>harder to find a 330.
>>Infinity already has a reasonably nice NAV system.
>>(Note: I really liked the Acura TL's NAV system, but the ride is way
>>too soft for my taste.)
>>
>>My dream would be the G35 engine and feel with Audi fit and finish with
>>the Acura NAV system.
>>
>>I wondered if there might be a difference between the xi and i on
>>handling. The Audi salesman I spoke with seemed very knowledgeable and
>>was willing to discuss my understanding of the 330xi versus the G35
>>(and didn't even seem to mind we weren't talking about the Audi and
>>that I might have written it off). He said he thought the xi might
>>drive differently and suggested I drive an i. When I mentioned it to
>>the BMW dealer over the phone, he told me point blank that I was wrong,
>>that he knows the cars very well and they drive exactly the same. I'll
>>have to drive one.
>>
>>My last car was also a VW Passat V6. I loved it,
>>but missed having more power. It was a nice combo of great road feel,
>>excellent interior, and good power. I wish they made it with a
>>tighter suspension (so it didn't rock so much on turns) and a more
>>powerful engine (or even just turbo).
>>
>>Thanks for your advice,
>>
>>Rick
>>
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