David Skelton

"Mark" <i@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:36:57 +0000, G-man uk <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
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>>Benjamin Gawert wrote:
>>
>>> * M.:
>>>> In the USA, Audi sells many of its cars with rear fog lights. Since
>>>> there are no regulations or training on the proper use of rear fog
>>>> lights in the USA, it is common to be blinded by a Audi rear fog light
>>>> at night time when visibility is totally clear.
>>>
>>> Do you think this is limited to the US? Even here in Europe, where most
>>> countries mandate that rear foglights are only switched on if visibility
>>> is below a certain distance (usually around 50m), clueless morons switch
>>> on their rear fog lights even when there is no trace of fog. You would
>>> think that since it is regulated and teached ad driving school that
>>> people know how to use it but no.
>>
>>I have noticed an increasing number of drivers in the UK now put their
>>front fog lights on (in addition to the main headlamps) just because
>>it's dark (or maybe they think it is 'cool').
>
> I've also noticed that an increasing number of drivers in the UK are
> using their main headlights when the weather is slightly dull and when
> visibility is fine. I've even been flashed several times (I guess)
> for not having my lights on when they are not needed.
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My 2 cents:

I find it quite handy to know that the driver of a car is advertising his /
her selfishness, ignorance, self-importance, arrogance and total disregard
for road law, and the visibility of other road users. Never mind the wasting
of fuel being used to power the 110 watts (+ electrical losses).

I usually let them pass, as they usually drive far too close behind anyway.
They do not seem to realise that they, too, are one insignificant individual
amongst 6,824,795,583 and counting insignificant individual humans living on
planet Earth.

David

Steve Daniels

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:29:18 -0800 (PST), against all advice,
something compelled "M." <matt.cracker@gmail.com>, to say:

> In the USA, Audi sells many of its cars with rear fog lights.



Are they to let people know you are there? Other than that, I
see no use for them.

Benjamin Gawert

* Steve Daniels:

>> In the USA, Audi sells many of its cars with rear fog lights.
>
> Are they to let people know you are there? Other than that, I
> see no use for them.

They are indeed very useful when visibility drops below 50m as due to
their brightness they help you to be seen much sooner from cars
approaching from behind (which mean the guy behind you won't ram into
your trunk).

However, not all areas suffer from regular low visibility, so the
real-world usefulness differs depending on where you live.

Benjamin

Steve Daniels

On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:09:22 +0000, against all advice, something
compelled Benjamin Gawert <bgawert@gmx.de>, to say:

> * Steve Daniels:
>
> >> In the USA, Audi sells many of its cars with rear fog lights.
> >
> > Are they to let people know you are there? Other than that, I
> > see no use for them.
>
> They are indeed very useful when visibility drops below 50m as due to
> their brightness they help you to be seen much sooner from cars
> approaching from behind (which mean the guy behind you won't ram into
> your trunk).


Yep, that's the only thing I could think of. What color are
they? I think white would be most disconcerting.

A bright flashing pink might be good. It would serve the "HERE I
AM!" purpose, yet be so ugly no one would use them unnecessarily.

laurentien

This is also common thoughout Europe and the Middle East, although
there are strict laws about their use.
The police officers are not going to be strict enough about it.

A lot of unconsiderate people drive their very expensive cars with the
fog lights on.
This is just stupid behavior from people who consider a car like a
power symbol.

They are the same people that use mobile phones while driving, until
they kill a cyclist
that "was not supposed to be there..."

Anyway, these rear and front fog lights should be mandatory on every
car since many areas are subject to fog
and they surely help improve safety. But the best safe way is to force
trucks out of the road when fog is around.

LHR

On Nov 11, 6:29 pm, "M." <matt.crac...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In the USA, Audi sells many of its cars with rear fog lights. Since
> there are no regulations or training on the proper use of rear fog
> lights in the USA, it is common to be blinded by a Audi rear fog light
> at night time when visibility is totally clear.
>
> I just want to say that I hate all clueless Audi drivers because of
> this.
>
> I bleed BMW blaue. Which allows me to pass your Audi *** and stop the
> blindness.
>
> Have a nice day.

Benjamin Gawert

* Steve Daniels:

>> They are indeed very useful when visibility drops below 50m as due to
>> their brightness they help you to be seen much sooner from cars
>> approaching from behind (which mean the guy behind you won't ram into
>> your trunk).
>
>
> Yep, that's the only thing I could think of. What color are
> they? I think white would be most disconcerting.

They are bright red.

> A bright flashing pink might be good. It would serve the "HERE I
> AM!" purpose, yet be so ugly no one would use them unnecessarily.

As in most countries the conditions were the use of fog lights is
allowed/required also contain a speed limit it would make sense to
couple the switch with a speed limiter of 50km/h. So the drivers would
only use them when necessary.

Benjamin