Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:25:59 -0500, "Pete" <escape2music@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>LOL! Haven't heard that one before. :)

d;o) Typo, but it truly does sux if you're trying to get it loose.

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

<tockeyhockey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170617736.183559.290190@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> i know this sounds crazy, but it there any chance that driving with
> the ESP engaged reduces fuel efficiency?
>
> my fuel numbers are down since we've had ice and snow and i've been
> more apt to drive with ESP engaged.
>
> am i just seeing things? or is this possible?

If ESP brakes it costs fuel. Thats what you're asking? Only of you keep
speed momentum because of higher engine torque.

A.

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

<tockeyhockey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170617736.183559.290190@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> i know this sounds crazy, but it there any chance that driving with
> the ESP engaged reduces fuel efficiency?
>
> my fuel numbers are down since we've had ice and snow and i've been
> more apt to drive with ESP engaged.
>
> am i just seeing things? or is this possible?

If ESP brakes it costs fuel. Thats what you're asking? Only of you keep
speed momentum because of higher engine torque.

A.

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

<tockeyhockey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170617736.183559.290190@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> i know this sounds crazy, but it there any chance that driving with
> the ESP engaged reduces fuel efficiency?
>
> my fuel numbers are down since we've had ice and snow and i've been
> more apt to drive with ESP engaged.
>
> am i just seeing things? or is this possible?

If ESP brakes it costs fuel. Thats what you're asking? Only of you keep
speed momentum because of higher engine torque.

A.

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

<tockeyhockey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170617736.183559.290190@h3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> i know this sounds crazy, but it there any chance that driving with
> the ESP engaged reduces fuel efficiency?
>
> my fuel numbers are down since we've had ice and snow and i've been
> more apt to drive with ESP engaged.
>
> am i just seeing things? or is this possible?

If ESP brakes it costs fuel. Thats what you're asking? Only of you keep
speed momentum because of higher engine torque.

A.

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

On Feb 4, 2:49 pm, "Pete" <escape2mu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <tockeyhoc...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >i know this sounds crazy, but it there any chance that driving with
> > the ESP engaged reduces fuel efficiency?
>
> > my fuel numbers are down since we've had ice and snow and i've been
> > more apt to drive with ESP engaged.
>
> > am i just seeing things? or is this possible?
>
> I don't see a connection. Is it possible that the reduced mpg you're
> observing has to do with overall lower ambient temps (engine takes
> longer to warm up, and until it does, it is less efficient) and/or the
> use of winter gas?
>
> Also, what do you mean by "i've been more apt to drive with ESP
> engaged"? The ESP is engaged by default and requires you to push the
> button to defeat it (and when it is defeated, an icon will light up on
> your dashboard). Are you saying that when there is no ice and snow, you
> press that ESP button every time you start the car? Just curious. I
> used to shut mine off most of the time too, as I felt the ESP was
> bogging the car down in 1st gear in my b5 a4 1.8tq.
>
> Pete

holy crap. i am an idiot. i have been assuming that i needed to turn
it on by pressing the button. so you're saying i've been turning it
off when the icon comes up on the dashboard?

i guess i should have read the owners manual more thoroughly.

ok, so now the question is: is it possible to get lower mileage by
turning the ESP off? :-)

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

On Feb 4, 2:49 pm, "Pete" <escape2mu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <tockeyhoc...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >i know this sounds crazy, but it there any chance that driving with
> > the ESP engaged reduces fuel efficiency?
>
> > my fuel numbers are down since we've had ice and snow and i've been
> > more apt to drive with ESP engaged.
>
> > am i just seeing things? or is this possible?
>
> I don't see a connection. Is it possible that the reduced mpg you're
> observing has to do with overall lower ambient temps (engine takes
> longer to warm up, and until it does, it is less efficient) and/or the
> use of winter gas?
>
> Also, what do you mean by "i've been more apt to drive with ESP
> engaged"? The ESP is engaged by default and requires you to push the
> button to defeat it (and when it is defeated, an icon will light up on
> your dashboard). Are you saying that when there is no ice and snow, you
> press that ESP button every time you start the car? Just curious. I
> used to shut mine off most of the time too, as I felt the ESP was
> bogging the car down in 1st gear in my b5 a4 1.8tq.
>
> Pete

holy crap. i am an idiot. i have been assuming that i needed to turn
it on by pressing the button. so you're saying i've been turning it
off when the icon comes up on the dashboard?

i guess i should have read the owners manual more thoroughly.

ok, so now the question is: is it possible to get lower mileage by
turning the ESP off? :-)

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

On Feb 4, 2:49 pm, "Pete" <escape2mu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <tockeyhoc...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >i know this sounds crazy, but it there any chance that driving with
> > the ESP engaged reduces fuel efficiency?
>
> > my fuel numbers are down since we've had ice and snow and i've been
> > more apt to drive with ESP engaged.
>
> > am i just seeing things? or is this possible?
>
> I don't see a connection. Is it possible that the reduced mpg you're
> observing has to do with overall lower ambient temps (engine takes
> longer to warm up, and until it does, it is less efficient) and/or the
> use of winter gas?
>
> Also, what do you mean by "i've been more apt to drive with ESP
> engaged"? The ESP is engaged by default and requires you to push the
> button to defeat it (and when it is defeated, an icon will light up on
> your dashboard). Are you saying that when there is no ice and snow, you
> press that ESP button every time you start the car? Just curious. I
> used to shut mine off most of the time too, as I felt the ESP was
> bogging the car down in 1st gear in my b5 a4 1.8tq.
>
> Pete

holy crap. i am an idiot. i have been assuming that i needed to turn
it on by pressing the button. so you're saying i've been turning it
off when the icon comes up on the dashboard?

i guess i should have read the owners manual more thoroughly.

ok, so now the question is: is it possible to get lower mileage by
turning the ESP off? :-)

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

On Feb 4, 2:49 pm, "Pete" <escape2mu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <tockeyhoc...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >i know this sounds crazy, but it there any chance that driving with
> > the ESP engaged reduces fuel efficiency?
>
> > my fuel numbers are down since we've had ice and snow and i've been
> > more apt to drive with ESP engaged.
>
> > am i just seeing things? or is this possible?
>
> I don't see a connection. Is it possible that the reduced mpg you're
> observing has to do with overall lower ambient temps (engine takes
> longer to warm up, and until it does, it is less efficient) and/or the
> use of winter gas?
>
> Also, what do you mean by "i've been more apt to drive with ESP
> engaged"? The ESP is engaged by default and requires you to push the
> button to defeat it (and when it is defeated, an icon will light up on
> your dashboard). Are you saying that when there is no ice and snow, you
> press that ESP button every time you start the car? Just curious. I
> used to shut mine off most of the time too, as I felt the ESP was
> bogging the car down in 1st gear in my b5 a4 1.8tq.
>
> Pete

holy crap. i am an idiot. i have been assuming that i needed to turn
it on by pressing the button. so you're saying i've been turning it
off when the icon comes up on the dashboard?

i guess i should have read the owners manual more thoroughly.

ok, so now the question is: is it possible to get lower mileage by
turning the ESP off? :-)

Re: ESP and fuel efficiency
 

On 5 Feb 2007 14:34:03 -0800, "tockeyhockey@gmail.com"
<tockeyhockey@gmail.com> wrote:

>holy crap. i am an idiot. i have been assuming that i needed to turn
>it on by pressing the button. so you're saying i've been turning it
>off when the icon comes up on the dashboard?
>
>i guess i should have read the owners manual more thoroughly.
>
>ok, so now the question is: is it possible to get lower mileage by
>turning the ESP off? :-)

Get in your car. Turn it on. Drive. Stop worrying about 2 mpg
change in the winter time. It's the cold. Of course, you could put
it in Georgia overdrive on hills. d;o)

Dave