Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(crossposting)
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(crossposting)
On Wed, 12 May 2004 13:03:51 -0400, Fred W. <Fred.Wills@allspam> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, trailing throttle oversteer... just another tool in the driver's
> toolbox, no? What better way to get that back end around the corner in a
> hurry?
"left foot braking", anyone? Fun technique in a Saab, is to keep on
the gas, hit the brakes with your left foot, and let the back end
slide to where you want it. Makes going around corners on snow/ice
much more fun and exciting, and with practice you can get some great
speed improvements.
Dave Hinz
>
> Hmmm, trailing throttle oversteer... just another tool in the driver's
> toolbox, no? What better way to get that back end around the corner in a
> hurry?
"left foot braking", anyone? Fun technique in a Saab, is to keep on
the gas, hit the brakes with your left foot, and let the back end
slide to where you want it. Makes going around corners on snow/ice
much more fun and exciting, and with practice you can get some great
speed improvements.
Dave Hinz
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(still crossposting)
C.R. Krieger wrote:
>Yeah; it does.
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>Yeah; it does.
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(still crossposting)
"Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote:
>No, the weight distribution (front/rear) will most certainly change as a)
>the car is tilted on the longitudinal axis and b) when accelerating.
Say folks, do you read the thread?
I already said you were right.
>-Fred W
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>No, the weight distribution (front/rear) will most certainly change as a)
>the car is tilted on the longitudinal axis and b) when accelerating.
Say folks, do you read the thread?
I already said you were right.
>-Fred W
Regards
Wolfgang
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(still crossposting)
I don't, so there...
But maybe I hate formatted e-mails...
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(crossposting)
In what town are you in? Randstad...?...
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"Peter Bozz" <fake-user@fake.email.address> wrote in message
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> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
> > At least in Germany seeing lots of BMWs and Mercs is no illusion! They
are
> > top sellers:
> > http://www.kfz-auskunft.de/kfz/pkw_n...ngen_2003.html
> >
> > In the Netherlands I seem to see Mercs on every corner...
> >
> > DAS
>
> A short drive around where I live revealed 8 Mercs. Now,
> it's no Beverly Hills, just a fairly affluent neighborhood of
> a big Dutch city (actually, I crossed over into the affluent
> neighborhood from the not-so-affluent part of town I live in).
> There were a couple of Saabs and a few of the ubiquitous V40/V70
> Volvos. I counted 6 BMWs and at least one A6, two A4s, a Jaguar XJ
> and a Lexus LS400. Most of the Mercs were of course C series. I
> didn't count the CLK Cabrio my local drug dealer drives: he's
> hardly representative of the general population and might
> skew my empirical data. I guestimate that I must have seen about
> 500 cars.
>
> Most people here seem to have a, shall we say, predilection for spacious
> MPV type of cars, mostly uninspiring brands I coudn't even tell apart.
> Think Ford, Opel, Peugeot, Fiat, some Japanese and Korean brands,
> whatever.
>
> I wonder, what city was it that you say you saw Mercs on
> every corner?
>
> Peter
>
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"Peter Bozz" <fake-user@fake.email.address> wrote in message
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> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
> > At least in Germany seeing lots of BMWs and Mercs is no illusion! They
are
> > top sellers:
> > http://www.kfz-auskunft.de/kfz/pkw_n...ngen_2003.html
> >
> > In the Netherlands I seem to see Mercs on every corner...
> >
> > DAS
>
> A short drive around where I live revealed 8 Mercs. Now,
> it's no Beverly Hills, just a fairly affluent neighborhood of
> a big Dutch city (actually, I crossed over into the affluent
> neighborhood from the not-so-affluent part of town I live in).
> There were a couple of Saabs and a few of the ubiquitous V40/V70
> Volvos. I counted 6 BMWs and at least one A6, two A4s, a Jaguar XJ
> and a Lexus LS400. Most of the Mercs were of course C series. I
> didn't count the CLK Cabrio my local drug dealer drives: he's
> hardly representative of the general population and might
> skew my empirical data. I guestimate that I must have seen about
> 500 cars.
>
> Most people here seem to have a, shall we say, predilection for spacious
> MPV type of cars, mostly uninspiring brands I coudn't even tell apart.
> Think Ford, Opel, Peugeot, Fiat, some Japanese and Korean brands,
> whatever.
>
> I wonder, what city was it that you say you saw Mercs on
> every corner?
>
> Peter
>
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(crossposting)
Top 10 sellers in UK in first quarter 04:-
43,115 Ford Focus
33,355 Vauxhall Corsa
29,479 Peugeot 206
27,217 Ford Fiesta
23,496 Vauxhall Astra
22,283 Renault Megane
21,688 ditto Clio
19,067 Ford Mondeo
18,366 VW Golf
17,830 Peugeot 307
See UK data here:
http://www.smmt.co.uk/home.cfm?CFID=...TOKEN=82740000
You can download a sheet and a Word document with commentary.
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"Peter Bozz" <fake-user@fake.email.address> wrote in message
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> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
> > At least in Germany seeing lots of BMWs and Mercs is no illusion! They
are
> > top sellers:
> > http://www.kfz-auskunft.de/kfz/pkw_n...ngen_2003.html
>
> Yes, I know about Germany. Germans know what to drive and how to make
> it.
>
> But I don't believe the OP was in Germany.
>
> I wonder, what are the top selling cars in England? Do you know a site
> with stats?
>
> The top selling cars in Holland in 2003 were:
> 1. Opel (55.698 nieuwe exepmplaren)
> 2. Peugeot (52.412 exemplaren)
> 3. Renault (47.159 nieuwe auto's)
> 4. Ford (42.146 nieuwe auto's)
> 5. Volkswagen (40.390 exemplaren)
>
> Unfortunately, the list ends here.
>
> http://www.planet.nl/planet/show/id=...8393/sc=24bcc0
>
> >
> > In the Netherlands I seem to see Mercs on every corner...
> >
> Do you count taxi cabs? That's not fair
>
> I'll make a short drive around my neighborhood, just for fun,
> and count the Mercs and BMWs I see. I'll post the results
> tomorrow or the day after. I'll also post the number of corners,
> and then we'll know.
>
> Peter
>
43,115 Ford Focus
33,355 Vauxhall Corsa
29,479 Peugeot 206
27,217 Ford Fiesta
23,496 Vauxhall Astra
22,283 Renault Megane
21,688 ditto Clio
19,067 Ford Mondeo
18,366 VW Golf
17,830 Peugeot 307
See UK data here:
http://www.smmt.co.uk/home.cfm?CFID=...TOKEN=82740000
You can download a sheet and a Word document with commentary.
DAS
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"Peter Bozz" <fake-user@fake.email.address> wrote in message
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> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
> > At least in Germany seeing lots of BMWs and Mercs is no illusion! They
are
> > top sellers:
> > http://www.kfz-auskunft.de/kfz/pkw_n...ngen_2003.html
>
> Yes, I know about Germany. Germans know what to drive and how to make
> it.
>
> But I don't believe the OP was in Germany.
>
> I wonder, what are the top selling cars in England? Do you know a site
> with stats?
>
> The top selling cars in Holland in 2003 were:
> 1. Opel (55.698 nieuwe exepmplaren)
> 2. Peugeot (52.412 exemplaren)
> 3. Renault (47.159 nieuwe auto's)
> 4. Ford (42.146 nieuwe auto's)
> 5. Volkswagen (40.390 exemplaren)
>
> Unfortunately, the list ends here.
>
> http://www.planet.nl/planet/show/id=...8393/sc=24bcc0
>
> >
> > In the Netherlands I seem to see Mercs on every corner...
> >
> Do you count taxi cabs? That's not fair
>
> I'll make a short drive around my neighborhood, just for fun,
> and count the Mercs and BMWs I see. I'll post the results
> tomorrow or the day after. I'll also post the number of corners,
> and then we'll know.
>
> Peter
>
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(crossposting)
On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:22:28 +0200, "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>I think it is precisely BMW that produce the most efficient petrol engines
>available, given similar power figures.
Do they? 330i: 225HP, 20/28 with automatic. Honda Accord: 240HP,
21/30 with automatic.
wrote:
>I think it is precisely BMW that produce the most efficient petrol engines
>available, given similar power figures.
Do they? 330i: 225HP, 20/28 with automatic. Honda Accord: 240HP,
21/30 with automatic.
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(crossposting)
On 12 May 2004 08:39:29 -0700, warp2_shadow@yahoo.com (C.R. Krieger)
wrote:
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>Not if they don't *have* them. Most BMWs don't.
Neither do most Saabs (GM's V6 excepted).
wrote:
>
>Not if they don't *have* them. Most BMWs don't.
Neither do most Saabs (GM's V6 excepted).
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Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(crossposting)
in article oic5a05ndklncomdgrbd7h3ba5rq8ap053@4ax.com, dizzy at
dizzy@nospam.invalid wrote on 5/12/04 6:22 PM:
> On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:22:28 +0200, "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think it is precisely BMW that produce the most efficient petrol engines
>> available, given similar power figures.
>
> Do they? 330i: 225HP, 20/28 with automatic. Honda Accord: 240HP,
> 21/30 with automatic.
>
Obviously no way to prove or disprove which engine is more efficient from
the above. Too many other variables, not the least of which is published vs
actual mileage which often varies a lot. My take is that the BMW engines
are very good in this respect, and perform very close to claims. Certainly
there are others that do equally well. My 330i was surprisingly fuel
efficient given the acceleration capability. Even my M3 does pretty good as
long as you don't "nail it"
dizzy@nospam.invalid wrote on 5/12/04 6:22 PM:
> On Mon, 10 May 2004 23:22:28 +0200, "JP Roberts" <1234@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think it is precisely BMW that produce the most efficient petrol engines
>> available, given similar power figures.
>
> Do they? 330i: 225HP, 20/28 with automatic. Honda Accord: 240HP,
> 21/30 with automatic.
>
Obviously no way to prove or disprove which engine is more efficient from
the above. Too many other variables, not the least of which is published vs
actual mileage which often varies a lot. My take is that the BMW engines
are very good in this respect, and perform very close to claims. Certainly
there are others that do equally well. My 330i was surprisingly fuel
efficient given the acceleration capability. Even my M3 does pretty good as
long as you don't "nail it"